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WCRider 12/7/2019 3:08pm
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I think sometimes his ego talk to him. I think in a part of his mind, he would like race supercross against the best.
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I disagree. How many US riders troll or are even bothered to go to Europe to race an MXGP event on their off weekend? Herlings came over here for that Ironman national, trolled everyone about wanting to race this past summers US motocross series and posts an old video of him riding a supercross track after the Musquin announcement. I'm sure he's getting paid a shit ton of money but guys like him also want to be super famous and that's not happening unless he comes here. RC is more well known anywhere on the planet, how many MXGP titles does he have?? Regardless which side of the pond has better riders, the US puts on a bigger, better show, has more money to throw at the sport, more media exposure, etc. etc. etc. Some of the MXGP events look like they could be in some hillbilly's backyard. You go to a pro national or supercross and you feel like you're at a legitimate event.

Not shit talking the MXGP series as I do believe they have the US riders handled when it comes to outdoors but just stating what should be the obvious here. I think that if he doesn't come here and at least race the outdoor series it's going to be a regret of his after he retires. The interest is clearly there.
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Muscle-Milk-KTM 12/8/2019 12:23am
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I’ve always heard the top guys in the US get paid better then the guys in the GPS. Maybe cause our season is longer
JH84 & AC222 are on the same money as the guys in the US, Pit Beirer said it in an interview a couple of years back.
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Just like Tomac and Roczen were scared to race some motocross.
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Fourth_Floor wrote:
I disagree. How many US riders troll or are even bothered to go to Europe to race an MXGP event on their off weekend? Herlings came...
I disagree. How many US riders troll or are even bothered to go to Europe to race an MXGP event on their off weekend? Herlings came over here for that Ironman national, trolled everyone about wanting to race this past summers US motocross series and posts an old video of him riding a supercross track after the Musquin announcement. I'm sure he's getting paid a shit ton of money but guys like him also want to be super famous and that's not happening unless he comes here. RC is more well known anywhere on the planet, how many MXGP titles does he have?? Regardless which side of the pond has better riders, the US puts on a bigger, better show, has more money to throw at the sport, more media exposure, etc. etc. etc. Some of the MXGP events look like they could be in some hillbilly's backyard. You go to a pro national or supercross and you feel like you're at a legitimate event.

Not shit talking the MXGP series as I do believe they have the US riders handled when it comes to outdoors but just stating what should be the obvious here. I think that if he doesn't come here and at least race the outdoor series it's going to be a regret of his after he retires. The interest is clearly there.
Ok I’ll bite.

The US does put on a ‘better show’ it’s just a pity this includes SX - why? Because it burns the riders out- Dungey, RV, RC all retiring before their time IMO.

Now look at the ages in MXGP and compare the top 20 (alright the 20) and take the eldest and do the same for AMA Nationals and what are the results, I really don’t know.
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Barrett57 12/8/2019 2:10am
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I remember reading that he loves living in the Netherlands and being around his family and friends. Can't blame him for not wanting to live in another country.
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Tough question, but he has to be one of the best paid riders in the world right now. So I'm not sure. I think that at...
Tough question, but he has to be one of the best paid riders in the world right now. So I'm not sure. I think that at one point you have to make a choice and stick with it. He did. Choice was obviously Europe and he had great success. However, he could have had like 4/5 more titles if he was a little smarter at certain points in his career. But that also makes him such a great winner, he hates losing races even though he can afford to do so and still win titles with it.

On the other hand, what Phil says. How would Roczen his career have been if he did stick with MXGP? He also is one of the best paid riders.. and has had his fair share of success in-between those horrific injuries
If i would have to guess the only thing Herlings probably regrets is that Everts minibike race or whatever it was. That cost him a title due to "stupidity" (him, ktm, everts, all involved).

For the rest it looks like he is quite happy where he is. Sure he would have liked to have less injuries and more titles, but that isnt a regret


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The paint job on that Lambo. Yes it’s in style now, but so where zipper pants. Could be costly fashion error on such a beautiful machine...
The paint job on that Lambo. Yes it’s in style now, but so where zipper pants. Could be costly fashion error on such a beautiful machine. But I’m sure he will be able to recoup. Only regrets I could see he may have.
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More than likely it’s a full body wrap. When he gets tired of it or wants to sell it he’ll just peel it off.
Ahhh yes. Good call sir. I stand corrected.... he has zero regrets. Carry on.
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alex69 wrote:
First off al the Lambo is for sale. https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/lamborghini-huracan-5-2-v10-lp610-4-benzine-grijs-d6436d8d-c5a2-eb29-e053-e250040a4166?cldtidx=18 Second why would he have regrets he's racing against the fastest racers outdoors, earning good money and...
First off al the Lambo is for sale.

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/lamborghini-huracan-5-2-v10-lp610-4-b…

Second why would he have regrets he's racing against the fastest racers outdoors, earning good money and isn't becoming homesick.

Wow!!! Using the quote that gets thrown around in the for sale forum often..... “If you were closer that would be mine”.....

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He didnt start riding the american series after he won his first world title like Roczen? He has had some major injuries and could have been...
He didnt start riding the american series after he won his first world title like Roczen?
He has had some major injuries and could have been even bigger if they happened on an SX track, but i gotta wonder if he hasnt beaten himself up about not going over the pond considering how many titles he has lost that was in his grasp.

Just a thought that occured when he posted that SX video of himself
I’ll bet the only thing he regrets is that 80cc race...
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Asselstine 12/8/2019 6:07am
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Fourth_Floor wrote:
I disagree. How many US riders troll or are even bothered to go to Europe to race an MXGP event on their off weekend? Herlings came...
I disagree. How many US riders troll or are even bothered to go to Europe to race an MXGP event on their off weekend? Herlings came over here for that Ironman national, trolled everyone about wanting to race this past summers US motocross series and posts an old video of him riding a supercross track after the Musquin announcement. I'm sure he's getting paid a shit ton of money but guys like him also want to be super famous and that's not happening unless he comes here. RC is more well known anywhere on the planet, how many MXGP titles does he have?? Regardless which side of the pond has better riders, the US puts on a bigger, better show, has more money to throw at the sport, more media exposure, etc. etc. etc. Some of the MXGP events look like they could be in some hillbilly's backyard. You go to a pro national or supercross and you feel like you're at a legitimate event.

Not shit talking the MXGP series as I do believe they have the US riders handled when it comes to outdoors but just stating what should be the obvious here. I think that if he doesn't come here and at least race the outdoor series it's going to be a regret of his after he retires. The interest is clearly there.
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Ok I’ll bite. The US does put on a ‘better show’ it’s just a pity this includes SX - why? Because it burns the riders out-...
Ok I’ll bite.

The US does put on a ‘better show’ it’s just a pity this includes SX - why? Because it burns the riders out- Dungey, RV, RC all retiring before their time IMO.

Now look at the ages in MXGP and compare the top 20 (alright the 20) and take the eldest and do the same for AMA Nationals and what are the results, I really don’t know.
All the old boy's that stick around do SX only
tcannon521 12/8/2019 6:10am
12/8/2019 6:10am Edited Date/Time 12/8/2019 6:12am
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than USMX.

He can always come over and race a random weekend/MXDN to remind us Americans who the fastest rider is.
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M-M wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/08/389980/s1200_PODIUM_MXoN_NL_2019.jpg[/img] Just like Tomac and Roczen were scared to race some motocross.


Just like Tomac and Roczen were scared to race some motocross.
Kroc, tomac are outdoor champions, and can run the pace of any rider in the world . Herlings is a badazz, but would get destroyed by tomac, kroc on a real.sx track.
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tcannon521 wrote:
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than...
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than USMX.

He can always come over and race a random weekend/MXDN to remind us Americans who the fastest rider is.
Ouch!
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Beeby 12/8/2019 7:00am
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World champion or national champion... which would you rather tell your grandkids you were?
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M-M wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/08/389980/s1200_PODIUM_MXoN_NL_2019.jpg[/img] Just like Tomac and Roczen were scared to race some motocross.


Just like Tomac and Roczen were scared to race some motocross.
mxb2 wrote:
Kroc, tomac are outdoor champions, and can run the pace of any rider in the world . Herlings is a badazz, but would get destroyed by...
Kroc, tomac are outdoor champions, and can run the pace of any rider in the world . Herlings is a badazz, but would get destroyed by tomac, kroc on a real.sx track.
Of course he would, he has never really raced it, where as the others have been racing SX for a long time.
All the guys you mentioned would get destroyed on an Endurocross track by the top guys too.
Because IT’S A DIFFERENT DISCIPLINE!
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mxb2 12/8/2019 7:03am
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M-M wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/08/389980/s1200_PODIUM_MXoN_NL_2019.jpg[/img] Just like Tomac and Roczen were scared to race some motocross.


Just like Tomac and Roczen were scared to race some motocross.
mxb2 wrote:
Kroc, tomac are outdoor champions, and can run the pace of any rider in the world . Herlings is a badazz, but would get destroyed by...
Kroc, tomac are outdoor champions, and can run the pace of any rider in the world . Herlings is a badazz, but would get destroyed by tomac, kroc on a real.sx track.
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Of course he would, he has never really raced it, where as the others have been racing SX for a long time. All the guys you...
Of course he would, he has never really raced it, where as the others have been racing SX for a long time.
All the guys you mentioned would get destroyed on an Endurocross track by the top guys too.
Because IT’S A DIFFERENT DISCIPLINE!
Exactly and usa riders dont ride outdoors as much as the gp guys. I get it. 2 different series. So you cant compare.
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OldHalfway 12/8/2019 7:12am
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Jeans and a jacket?
Yep he should wear khakis and an oversized polo shirt like I think most Vital members wear
Was obviously making a joke, but if you want to call that oversized peacoat/poncho with a hood a 'jacket' and disregard those shoes and pre ripped designer jeans, that's ok. We all look back on what we used to wear at some point and laugh, except for me. I've always worn khakis and an xl polo. Cheers.
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Beeby wrote:
World champion or national champion... which would you rather tell your grandkids you were?
SX Champion
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tcannon521 wrote:
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than...
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than USMX.

He can always come over and race a random weekend/MXDN to remind us Americans who the fastest rider is.
Coldenhoff?
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tcannon521 wrote:
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than...
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than USMX.

He can always come over and race a random weekend/MXDN to remind us Americans who the fastest rider is.
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Muscle-Milk-KTM 12/8/2019 10:52am
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tcannon521 wrote:
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than...
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than USMX.

He can always come over and race a random weekend/MXDN to remind us Americans who the fastest rider is.
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Coldenhoff?
I don’t think so. Coldenhoff has never beaten Herlings over a course of a year & I would lay money on the fact that Coldenhoff hasn’t beaten Herlings straight up when he’s started behind him.

The 4 races at the MXON’s, Coldenhoff got better starts Herlings. I doubt Glen could go through the field like Jeffrey can.
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Nope. Every time he checks out his bank balance...he’s glad he stayed in Europe.
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4DAIVIPAI2K5 12/8/2019 11:24am
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tcannon521 wrote:
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than...
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than USMX.

He can always come over and race a random weekend/MXDN to remind us Americans who the fastest rider is.
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Coldenhoff?
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
I don’t think so. Coldenhoff has never beaten Herlings over a course of a year & I would lay money on the fact that Coldenhoff hasn’t...
I don’t think so. Coldenhoff has never beaten Herlings over a course of a year & I would lay money on the fact that Coldenhoff hasn’t beaten Herlings straight up when he’s started behind him.

The 4 races at the MXON’s, Coldenhoff got better starts Herlings. I doubt Glen could go through the field like Jeffrey can.
2019 Glenn finished 3rd, Jeffrey finished 19th
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tcannon521 wrote:
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than...
Travel the world or travel around America? I think I would prefer to travel the world. Also, at this point MXGP might be more prestigious than USMX.

He can always come over and race a random weekend/MXDN to remind us Americans who the fastest rider is.
Park Boys wrote:
Coldenhoff?
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
I don’t think so. Coldenhoff has never beaten Herlings over a course of a year & I would lay money on the fact that Coldenhoff hasn’t...
I don’t think so. Coldenhoff has never beaten Herlings over a course of a year & I would lay money on the fact that Coldenhoff hasn’t beaten Herlings straight up when he’s started behind him.

The 4 races at the MXON’s, Coldenhoff got better starts Herlings. I doubt Glen could go through the field like Jeffrey can.
Why didnt he pass him then?
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ATKpilot99 12/8/2019 11:52am
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No one is going to make a valid argument that Coldenhoff is faster than Herlings overall but give credit where credit is due . He has been the fastest rider at the last 2 mxdn's.
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Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
I don’t think so. Coldenhoff has never beaten Herlings over a course of a year & I would lay money on the fact that Coldenhoff hasn’t...
I don’t think so. Coldenhoff has never beaten Herlings over a course of a year & I would lay money on the fact that Coldenhoff hasn’t beaten Herlings straight up when he’s started behind him.

The 4 races at the MXON’s, Coldenhoff got better starts Herlings. I doubt Glen could go through the field like Jeffrey can.
Perhaps part of the reason he is the undisputed FMOTP is because he gets starts?
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
No one is going to make a valid argument that Coldenhoff is faster than Herlings overall but give credit where credit is due . He has...
No one is going to make a valid argument that Coldenhoff is faster than Herlings overall but give credit where credit is due . He has been the fastest rider at the last 2 mxdn's.
Hey hey hey....please don’t bring a logical and well balanced opinion to Vital.
Apparently they have no place here.
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