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Pretty much to sum it up I have fantastic fitness off the bike but soon as I hop on my motocross bike I feel it is all lost, I can only go for 2 laps wide open until my arm pump and lack of bike fitness set in. This is my view on it, I believe when I train I try to go to fast. Going so fast my body cannot take that. Giving 100% and riding extremely fast.i constantly do this to where my body isn’t actually improving it’s fitness it’s just failing. In order to improve from my 2 laps to 20 minute motos I think I need to back down with how fast I try to go while training. Give 80%. My body will begin to build up its fitness to where I can give 100% and take it fine. Does this sound right to you guys?
You also need to work on lactic acid tolerance training for your arms and upper body core strength in the gym plus technique with a good coach.
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You're not gaining a lot by merely 'hanging in there'.
Ride 100%, recover, go again. Do this and you will be extending your threshold each time. Before long you'll be up to race distance. Then go just a bit further.
2- Bike setup, you might be fighting the bikes which affect your stamina
3- You can have an unbelievable stamina on a bicycle or running but can’t translate it to the bike. It’s not the same and MX is an overall exhausting sports. That’s why is the toughest sport in the world.
4- Are you doing intervals training? It’s the actual best way to train and telly apply to MX. When you train you should train also the same way and not only go as hard as you can. Do 1-2 race pace laps, slow down for 2-3 laps, go again with 1-2 race pace laps. Practice sections during one heat (without cutting the track!!!). Do techniques heats, focus on the usage of your arms, standing up, putting your feet at the right place etc etc. At the end your body have to develop automatic behaviour to allow you to go race pace longer.
5- What is your intention? You want to focus on racing or be a fast practice rider?
6- Fun it as to be always fun.
I know I can ride faster than I do in short bursts but I can’t maintain it over the course of a 1-2 hour harescramble. So you ride at a pace where you can sustain. My lap times get faster each lap over the course of an hour. It’s called pacing yourself and knowing your physical limits. You aren’t truly as fast as your hot laps say you are if you can’t maintain it.
A cross country runner can sprint faster than they are running during a 5k. But they don’t sprint for a mile then walk the rest of the race. They set a pace that they can run at for 100% if the race. And build each time the go for a run.
Take the advice you’ve gotten from your 3 previous threads on fitness and arm pump.
All the tracks around here are at least 2 hours away so training at race pace isn’t going to happen. When we used to race a lot, I always made sure that the gym workouts were tougher than the race. Go race and figure out what hurts. Then hit the gym and work harder on those areas. Running, cycling and gym workouts make it all better.
95-98% to avoid it !
When your brain catches up to “this” speed you won’t be beat after 2 laps, you will be able to do 10 laps.
Then when your brain catches up to “this new speed” you will be able to do 10 laps at this new speed.
Set a lap requirement each time you ride. Go as slow as you need to go to finish all the laps, with the last lap being your fastest.
On and off the bike.
Race day, you'll be fine.
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Great-fitness-off-bike-a…
https://m.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Bad-arm-pump-help,1365911
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Do a 20-30 minute moto focusing on being smooth, line choice and body positioning, ride at 80-90%, at the point where you’re going close to your max speed but just not pushing it as hard into corners or on exit, smooth/flow.
Then go out and do some sprint laps while trying to maintain your form and lines.
You may even find you’re faster when you back it down 10% and don’t override the track, smooth is fast and carry momentum.
oh and for the guy asking... i would for sure say seat time is the key. and ride with faster guys and try to get perfect technique. most important is have fun though.
I've suffered from it too, fit or not. All in the legs, especially if you're tall. Clamp that bike!
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