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mx 219 6/12/2019 10:45am
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mx 219 wrote:
Compare prices of go karts. I was looking into them a little for a go kart track investment, if I remember correctly gas karts that went...
Compare prices of go karts. I was looking into them a little for a go kart track investment, if I remember correctly gas karts that went around 50 MPH were $2500-3500 new. Electric were I believe 5-8k.

If an e50 is under 5k I would be absolutely shocked. I still think you will see around $6-7k, but for a 50 I would certainly prefer to see a price much lower than that.
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I won't be purchasing one if they are that price. $4k is appropriate if they would like to start a revelation. This new concept should be...
I won't be purchasing one if they are that price. $4k is appropriate if they would like to start a revelation. This new concept should be focused at acquiring existing and new participants due to accessibility (quiet) , ease of use and affordability. Even if they don't turn a profit on this particular model they would benefit in the long run.
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity.

You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price of an Alta, like $13-14k. Then when they weren't selling as many as they expected they lowered the price, most likely in a last ditch effort to make sales. It didn't work.

I stand by my assumption of a $6k range for an e50, my lowest guess is $5,499. People have mentioned Oset and Alta, but are they a Big 6 Manufacturer, no! KTM e50 will be more, because they can charge more. Like it or not people will pay for it too.
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mx 219 wrote:
That thing looks like a PW 50 speedwise, kids wont even be able to jump them. Im guessing 6-7k range. Thanks, but no thanks. Iwill most...
That thing looks like a PW 50 speedwise, kids wont even be able to jump them.

Im guessing 6-7k range. Thanks, but no thanks. Iwill most likely get my kid a 110L for his first bike. 2k (110) vs 6k+ (electricc 50) vs 4k+ (KTM 50).
Really? Did you watch the video? The one I watched had a full-grown adult wheelying the thing and in a couple instances it looked like he was about to loop it out. It looked fast enough to me.
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peltier626 6/12/2019 12:24pm
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mx 219 wrote:
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity. You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price...
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity.

You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price of an Alta, like $13-14k. Then when they weren't selling as many as they expected they lowered the price, most likely in a last ditch effort to make sales. It didn't work.

I stand by my assumption of a $6k range for an e50, my lowest guess is $5,499. People have mentioned Oset and Alta, but are they a Big 6 Manufacturer, no! KTM e50 will be more, because they can charge more. Like it or not people will pay for it too.
I don't expect "charity". All I'm saying is this is an entirely new platform aimed at kids. Which in turn hopefully would create lifelong 2 wheeled enthusiast. The sport demographic is declining, affordable and accessible should be the main goal. They can create a Profit over time THROUGH this particular model. I'm thinking long term investment. But I'm also being very optimistic too.
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mx 219 6/12/2019 12:50pm
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mx 219 wrote:
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity. You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price...
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity.

You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price of an Alta, like $13-14k. Then when they weren't selling as many as they expected they lowered the price, most likely in a last ditch effort to make sales. It didn't work.

I stand by my assumption of a $6k range for an e50, my lowest guess is $5,499. People have mentioned Oset and Alta, but are they a Big 6 Manufacturer, no! KTM e50 will be more, because they can charge more. Like it or not people will pay for it too.
peltier626 wrote:
I don't expect "charity". All I'm saying is this is an entirely new platform aimed at kids. Which in turn hopefully would create lifelong 2 wheeled...
I don't expect "charity". All I'm saying is this is an entirely new platform aimed at kids. Which in turn hopefully would create lifelong 2 wheeled enthusiast. The sport demographic is declining, affordable and accessible should be the main goal. They can create a Profit over time THROUGH this particular model. I'm thinking long term investment. But I'm also being very optimistic too.
I agree with you on trying to have lower prices and your thought process but as for what KTM will do, it will be interesting to see.I still wouldn't expect them to break even or even lose money on this model, I would think they will try to turn some sort of profit margin.

To me it is crazy that a KTM 50 is $4500. I can't see paying more than 3k for a 50. I'm not broke, far from it, but I'm not stupid with money either. KTM wont ever catch me buying a 50 for that much.

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The price in AUD I heard was ridiculous then it was another $900 for the charger, I brought a new cobra...
peltier626 6/14/2019 6:32am
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Imagine an unfamiliar family attending a sx, son turns and looks at dad the whole night with a huge smile saying dad this is so cool, intermission comes along with the all new E50. Son's eyes open real big and says "dad check that bike out". Son's ecstatic. Dad googles the E50 on phone and see's he will need to take out a home equity loan to afford the E50. Dad looks at son and says you can just play mx vs atv on your Xbox at home, you can't even get hurt doing that. No more than $4k out the door.
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peltier626 wrote:
Imagine an unfamiliar family attending a sx, son turns and looks at dad the whole night with a huge smile saying dad this is so cool...
Imagine an unfamiliar family attending a sx, son turns and looks at dad the whole night with a huge smile saying dad this is so cool, intermission comes along with the all new E50. Son's eyes open real big and says "dad check that bike out". Son's ecstatic. Dad googles the E50 on phone and see's he will need to take out a home equity loan to afford the E50. Dad looks at son and says you can just play mx vs atv on your Xbox at home, you can't even get hurt doing that. No more than $4k out the door.
Do you think they'll have an E50 JR like they do for the current gas bike? A little more entry level and a little less full blown race set up?
peltier626 6/14/2019 2:49pm
6/14/2019 2:49pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2019 2:51pm
I think this bike doubles as both, it has tunable power delivery and adjustable suspension to cater to multiple levels of riders and advance according to their ability. I hope KTM/HUSKY does not miss this opportunity due to cost. This could definitely be a game changer for the future if its executed correctly.
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peltier626 wrote:
I think this bike doubles as both, it has tunable power delivery and adjustable suspension to cater to multiple levels of riders and advance according to...
I think this bike doubles as both, it has tunable power delivery and adjustable suspension to cater to multiple levels of riders and advance according to their ability. I hope KTM/HUSKY does not miss this opportunity due to cost. This could definitely be a game changer for the future if its executed correctly.
Yeah, price wise, they need something that's more entry level like a PW or the e bikes that GasGas have. This E50 is going to be a top of the line full race Johnny!
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mx 219 wrote:
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity. You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price...
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity.

You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price of an Alta, like $13-14k. Then when they weren't selling as many as they expected they lowered the price, most likely in a last ditch effort to make sales. It didn't work.

I stand by my assumption of a $6k range for an e50, my lowest guess is $5,499. People have mentioned Oset and Alta, but are they a Big 6 Manufacturer, no! KTM e50 will be more, because they can charge more. Like it or not people will pay for it too.
Where the hell do people come up with this stuff, Alta was sold clean out of MXRs when they shut down and couldn’t even keep up with demand. I’d be shocked if this thing was more than a current 50, with reasonable manufacturing volume (Alta’s biggest shortcoming) that price is easily attainable.
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MSRP for an SX65 is $4,999. I could imagine any price up to $4,499 for the "50cc" model. I hope it is much cheaper for all the reasons stated above, but if I were a betting man, I'd guess something $4K+.
Dirty Points 6/26/2019 5:05pm
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mx 219 wrote:
Compare prices of go karts. I was looking into them a little for a go kart track investment, if I remember correctly gas karts that went...
Compare prices of go karts. I was looking into them a little for a go kart track investment, if I remember correctly gas karts that went around 50 MPH were $2500-3500 new. Electric were I believe 5-8k.

If an e50 is under 5k I would be absolutely shocked. I still think you will see around $6-7k, but for a 50 I would certainly prefer to see a price much lower than that.
peltier626 wrote:
I won't be purchasing one if they are that price. $4k is appropriate if they would like to start a revelation. This new concept should be...
I won't be purchasing one if they are that price. $4k is appropriate if they would like to start a revelation. This new concept should be focused at acquiring existing and new participants due to accessibility (quiet) , ease of use and affordability. Even if they don't turn a profit on this particular model they would benefit in the long run.
mx 219 wrote:
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity. You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price...
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity.

You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price of an Alta, like $13-14k. Then when they weren't selling as many as they expected they lowered the price, most likely in a last ditch effort to make sales. It didn't work.

I stand by my assumption of a $6k range for an e50, my lowest guess is $5,499. People have mentioned Oset and Alta, but are they a Big 6 Manufacturer, no! KTM e50 will be more, because they can charge more. Like it or not people will pay for it too.
Well, An SX50 is $4500 and is one of the priciest bikes to maintain on a per-hour basis out there.
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I wonder if a battery upgrade would be possible. Sell 2 models, one with a rec battery (cheaper,lighter for beginners) and one with a race battery for kids that know how to ride well. Rec battery could be upgraded to race battery after a year.
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mx 219 6/26/2019 5:23pm
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mx 219 wrote:
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity. You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price...
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity.

You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price of an Alta, like $13-14k. Then when they weren't selling as many as they expected they lowered the price, most likely in a last ditch effort to make sales. It didn't work.

I stand by my assumption of a $6k range for an e50, my lowest guess is $5,499. People have mentioned Oset and Alta, but are they a Big 6 Manufacturer, no! KTM e50 will be more, because they can charge more. Like it or not people will pay for it too.
JM485 wrote:
Where the hell do people come up with this stuff, Alta was sold clean out of MXRs when they shut down and couldn’t even keep up...
Where the hell do people come up with this stuff, Alta was sold clean out of MXRs when they shut down and couldn’t even keep up with demand. I’d be shocked if this thing was more than a current 50, with reasonable manufacturing volume (Alta’s biggest shortcoming) that price is easily attainable.
So they went out of business because they were sold out...


Where's dr. Evil when i need him?..right
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CivBars wrote:
This Summer/ Fall

2020 Husky EE 5
And still no price in any currency when it's supposed to be available everywhere except North America in July.
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peltier626 wrote:
I think this bike doubles as both, it has tunable power delivery and adjustable suspension to cater to multiple levels of riders and advance according to...
I think this bike doubles as both, it has tunable power delivery and adjustable suspension to cater to multiple levels of riders and advance according to their ability. I hope KTM/HUSKY does not miss this opportunity due to cost. This could definitely be a game changer for the future if its executed correctly.
CivBars wrote:
Yeah, price wise, they need something that's more entry level like a PW or the e bikes that GasGas have. This E50 is going to be...
Yeah, price wise, they need something that's more entry level like a PW or the e bikes that GasGas have. This E50 is going to be a top of the line full race Johnny!
With a 70 minute full Charge time and only 27 minutes of battery life for a fast rider, going by their own PR, Im not sure it will be a great race option unless Battery can be charged at the track or battery units swapped out, (another cost)

I would still be keen to get my hands on one for my 8 years old, at least we could go practice down the local park without to much notice, well until the ruts form Laughing
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peltier626 wrote:
I won't be purchasing one if they are that price. $4k is appropriate if they would like to start a revelation. This new concept should be...
I won't be purchasing one if they are that price. $4k is appropriate if they would like to start a revelation. This new concept should be focused at acquiring existing and new participants due to accessibility (quiet) , ease of use and affordability. Even if they don't turn a profit on this particular model they would benefit in the long run.
mx 219 wrote:
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity. You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price...
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity.

You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price of an Alta, like $13-14k. Then when they weren't selling as many as they expected they lowered the price, most likely in a last ditch effort to make sales. It didn't work.

I stand by my assumption of a $6k range for an e50, my lowest guess is $5,499. People have mentioned Oset and Alta, but are they a Big 6 Manufacturer, no! KTM e50 will be more, because they can charge more. Like it or not people will pay for it too.
Dirty Points wrote:
Well, An SX50 is $4500 and is one of the priciest bikes to maintain on a per-hour basis out there.
I once heard KTM made more on 50 parts than any other bike. Just a rumor though, and a while back.

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mx 219 wrote:
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity. You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price...
ktm is in business to make a profit, they are not a charity.

You mention the price of an Alta, but what was the original price of an Alta, like $13-14k. Then when they weren't selling as many as they expected they lowered the price, most likely in a last ditch effort to make sales. It didn't work.

I stand by my assumption of a $6k range for an e50, my lowest guess is $5,499. People have mentioned Oset and Alta, but are they a Big 6 Manufacturer, no! KTM e50 will be more, because they can charge more. Like it or not people will pay for it too.
JM485 wrote:
Where the hell do people come up with this stuff, Alta was sold clean out of MXRs when they shut down and couldn’t even keep up...
Where the hell do people come up with this stuff, Alta was sold clean out of MXRs when they shut down and couldn’t even keep up with demand. I’d be shocked if this thing was more than a current 50, with reasonable manufacturing volume (Alta’s biggest shortcoming) that price is easily attainable.
mx 219 wrote:
So they went out of business because they were sold out...


Where's dr. Evil when i need him?..right
Uh, no. They went out of business because they couldn’t sustain the price they were selling at until they were able to buy parts in large enough quantities to make the msrp justifiable. They were essentially selling bikes almost at cost.

Example: If you’re ordering only 50 swingarms at a time because you sell 100 bikes per year your price is going to be extremely high, but if you have the volume to order 100, 200, maybe even 1000 at a time when you’re moving 1000 bikes per year your price now drops way down.

Get it? Once they lost the Harley funding they just couldn’t hold on until they reached that point, and Harley definitely didn’t do they any favors with the deal. Bike sales were definitely not a problem, as anyone close to the company will tell you.
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There are prices for the EE5 for some of the countries on the Husky website. For example:
- The Netherlands 5,090 euros
- Belgium 4,989 euros

So you can only assume it will be less than that in the US...
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Price here in Finland Husqvarna e50 is 4999 € and coming in September. That is 5430 dollars.
KTM SX 50 costs 3999 € 4350 dollars.

Should be less in other countries as Finland is most expensive country.
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$$$ Come on Stefan.
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https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html

This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a kelly controller and it would be faster than the husky version.

I bought the 36v version for my son last Christmas and he has been putting it through the paces. I just upgraded it last week to 52v with a battery from luna cycles and the 24.0 oset adult controller. He can ride it pretty hard now for well over an hour.
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Dirty Points 7/31/2019 9:48am
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1989 RM80, the first Japanese power valve mini was MSRP $1800, CPI adjusted that is 3980. The new YZ85 is $4599. We are only talking about a 10-15% difference in price, not multiple bikes worth.
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hard2kill wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/07/31/363659/s1200_xtm_pro50.jpg[/img] https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a...


https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html

This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a kelly controller and it would be faster than the husky version.

I bought the 36v version for my son last Christmas and he has been putting it through the paces. I just upgraded it last week to 52v with a battery from luna cycles and the 24.0 oset adult controller. He can ride it pretty hard now for well over an hour.
To say that will be equal
To a KTM or Husky is a joke
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Dirty Points 7/31/2019 10:09am
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hard2kill wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/07/31/363659/s1200_xtm_pro50.jpg[/img] https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a...


https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html

This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a kelly controller and it would be faster than the husky version.

I bought the 36v version for my son last Christmas and he has been putting it through the paces. I just upgraded it last week to 52v with a battery from luna cycles and the 24.0 oset adult controller. He can ride it pretty hard now for well over an hour.
oceantrav wrote:
To say that will be equal
To a KTM or Husky is a joke
That XTM logo, tho. Holy trademark infringement, Batman!
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hard2kill wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/07/31/363659/s1200_xtm_pro50.jpg[/img] https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a...


https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html

This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a kelly controller and it would be faster than the husky version.

I bought the 36v version for my son last Christmas and he has been putting it through the paces. I just upgraded it last week to 52v with a battery from luna cycles and the 24.0 oset adult controller. He can ride it pretty hard now for well over an hour.
oceantrav wrote:
To say that will be equal
To a KTM or Husky is a joke
It might not be suitable for the Super mini dad, but at the 50cc level it is all a kid needs. Or hey we could just continue to price the kids out altogether?
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hard2kill wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/07/31/363659/s1200_xtm_pro50.jpg[/img] https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a...


https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html

This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a kelly controller and it would be faster than the husky version.

I bought the 36v version for my son last Christmas and he has been putting it through the paces. I just upgraded it last week to 52v with a battery from luna cycles and the 24.0 oset adult controller. He can ride it pretty hard now for well over an hour.
oceantrav wrote:
To say that will be equal
To a KTM or Husky is a joke
I thing he said “nearly as capable”. Actually, I know, because it’s right there in the post you quoted.
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hard2kill wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/07/31/363659/s1200_xtm_pro50.jpg[/img] https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a...


https://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/dirt-bikes/mx-pro-dirt-bike-48v-1300w.html

This bike will be nearly as capable of anything that the Husky and KTM e50 bikes can do, and it's under $1,000.00 add a kelly controller and it would be faster than the husky version.

I bought the 36v version for my son last Christmas and he has been putting it through the paces. I just upgraded it last week to 52v with a battery from luna cycles and the 24.0 oset adult controller. He can ride it pretty hard now for well over an hour.
Liability, reliability and long term parts, service etc. and resale is why it would make more sense to buy from an established manufacturer.
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