WW looks boring.

Harry Backmon 6/18/2019 5:50am
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Yep. You left out Alan Andreu. Every rider you mentioned Alan beat more than once.
Sully wrote:
Did any privateers take you up on your offer to put them up this week/weekend?
Not a single one, Sully.
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RonSkj wrote:
When I saw WW I thought of this.. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/06/17/355353/s1200_warthogsig2.jpg[/img]
When I saw WW I thought of this..











FIREfish148 wrote:
ditto Grinning
NvHermit wrote:
WW and Scott Kandel was never boring
Before the 18 wheeler Wonder Warthog gave every privateer that made the night show the AMA race entrance fee back to the riders. Great privateer concept to help the privateers to get to the next race!


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Sully 6/18/2019 6:48am
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Harry Backmon wrote:
Not a single one, Sully.
Damn, that sucks. It was one hell of an offer.
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DavetheVintageGuy 6/18/2019 6:50am
6/18/2019 6:50am
Sunshine Speedway was flat. It had great Nationals in the 70s & 80's.

Orlando Sports Stadium was flat. It had great Trans-AMA races in the 70's.

Daytona SX is flat. It is outdoor national rough when they allow the sand to be the primary surface.

Florida flat is not the same as California parking lot flat. The sand is the difference. There were times at Orlando that the whoops were 4 feet deep. Racing in the heat makes a difference also. It's why Hannah always came to the Winter series.

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kpiper 6/18/2019 7:11am
6/18/2019 7:11am Edited Date/Time 6/18/2019 7:47am
Right now the weather forecast is for 95 degrees and 65% humidity. 65% humidity is not bad at all for Florida in the summer. Plus, it shows a 9 mph breeze. So that is actually pretty good. It is tough when the humidity gets to 80-85% and above.

40% chance of PM thunderstorms which is normal in the summer. Just have to hope it does not hit. You get lots of rain in Florida in the summer (often every day) which makes planning a big race dicey at best.
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kpiper 6/18/2019 7:17am
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Harry Backmon wrote:
Yep. You left out Alan Andreu. Every rider you mentioned Alan beat more than once.
I remember Alan well. Super fast. What part of the state was he from?

Kippy won a 125 National moto at St Pete one year and Keylon destroyed them all in a 250 National at St Pete winning both motos.

I left out a lot of others. Florida had many fast guys back then. And of course, the best ever...RC4 is a Florida rider. JS7 too.
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Harry Backmon 6/18/2019 7:33am
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Alan grew up in the Mandarin area of Jacksonville. He now lives in Hilliard and owns and operates North Florida MX track.
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deluxeman 6/18/2019 7:38am
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Easy Tracks make for close racing. Everybody can be fast on an easy track.
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The track looks awesome. Unfortunately, I don't think the split lane will live up to the hype. I hope it makes for some good passes and the broadcast team catches the action though! I see it becoming heavily favored on one side, getting rough, then riders switching it up. Curious to see what they do with track maintenance. The first laps will be interesting! Seems like a much better approach than what SX has been offering as of late.
Harry Backmon 6/18/2019 5:27pm
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Easy Tracks make for close racing. Everybody can be fast on an easy track.
How on Earth did you arrive at the conclusion WW is an easy track? Let me assure you - it's a pro track in every way possible. And I don't believe for a second humidity is going to be 65% come Saturday. It was 10,000% today as I worked on my 87 in the garage. By 1300 I was completely soaked. I hate it, and know exactly what Eli meant after the 2nd Moto of the USGP when he said, "I felt like I was racing with a wet blanket on me."
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motoxxx599 6/18/2019 5:35pm
6/18/2019 5:35pm
deluxeman wrote:
Easy Tracks make for close racing. Everybody can be fast on an easy track.
Harry Backmon wrote:
How on Earth did you arrive at the conclusion WW is an easy track? Let me assure you - it's a pro track in every way...
How on Earth did you arrive at the conclusion WW is an easy track? Let me assure you - it's a pro track in every way possible. And I don't believe for a second humidity is going to be 65% come Saturday. It was 10,000% today as I worked on my 87 in the garage. By 1300 I was completely soaked. I hate it, and know exactly what Eli meant after the 2nd Moto of the USGP when he said, "I felt like I was racing with a wet blanket on me."
How does FL Track and Trails stack up against WW? Place looks legit with a long track and lots of parking.
Harry Backmon 6/18/2019 5:44pm
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deluxeman wrote:
Easy Tracks make for close racing. Everybody can be fast on an easy track.
Harry Backmon wrote:
How on Earth did you arrive at the conclusion WW is an easy track? Let me assure you - it's a pro track in every way...
How on Earth did you arrive at the conclusion WW is an easy track? Let me assure you - it's a pro track in every way possible. And I don't believe for a second humidity is going to be 65% come Saturday. It was 10,000% today as I worked on my 87 in the garage. By 1300 I was completely soaked. I hate it, and know exactly what Eli meant after the 2nd Moto of the USGP when he said, "I felt like I was racing with a wet blanket on me."
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How does FL Track and Trails stack up against WW? Place looks legit with a long track and lots of parking.
Haven't made the trip, but have heard good things. WW is pure pro level MX, but even squids like me can ride there on occasion. FT&T is tracks and trails and nothing like WW. It's a few hours further south too, so I promise the humidity is "sweet."
RichardLoots 6/22/2019 10:38am
6/22/2019 10:38am
track looks awesome , great addition to the outdoors
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Teej317 6/22/2019 11:06am
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Track looks grueling. I'm okay with it. Good dirt and really rough.
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TeamGrnRacer99 6/22/2019 11:52am
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Track reminds me of Englishtown. Surprised the Jersey Boyz aren’t killing it.
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deluxeman wrote:
Easy Tracks make for close racing. Everybody can be fast on an easy track.
Harry Backmon wrote:
How on Earth did you arrive at the conclusion WW is an easy track? Let me assure you - it's a pro track in every way...
How on Earth did you arrive at the conclusion WW is an easy track? Let me assure you - it's a pro track in every way possible. And I don't believe for a second humidity is going to be 65% come Saturday. It was 10,000% today as I worked on my 87 in the garage. By 1300 I was completely soaked. I hate it, and know exactly what Eli meant after the 2nd Moto of the USGP when he said, "I felt like I was racing with a wet blanket on me."
motoxxx599 wrote:
How does FL Track and Trails stack up against WW? Place looks legit with a long track and lots of parking.
Highly doubt the series would go that far south. fTT is nothing like ww. Ww is a mans track
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9bro9 6/22/2019 2:14pm
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racing was so boring. yawn...

What a f*cking shake up in points in both classes to keep things interesting. Disappointing for CS23 to say the least....
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dickjackson170 6/22/2019 3:07pm
6/22/2019 3:07pm
Where's the OP? Forget his password? Too busy climbing the natural terrain of Mt. Everest to watch the race?
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peltier626 6/22/2019 5:59pm
6/22/2019 5:59pm
WW delivered, Exactly what the series needed. Disparity. Well done junior.
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Racing separated those in shape and not. Not the most technical track but with the weather is took its toll and the ones who paced themselves showed through.
Eli was smart to yard and break them early the 2nd moto but almost got caught by Zac.
It’s not the track that separated them it was who was better prepared if you could for those conditions.
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byke 6/22/2019 6:11pm
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For being in such a flat area, I think they did great with the track.
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ChrisB10 wrote:
High Point was great. Love the skill needed to ride the natural terrain but looking ahead to WW ranch it's just completely flat minus a couple...
High Point was great. Love the skill needed to ride the natural terrain but looking ahead to WW ranch it's just completely flat minus a couple of big tables. Anyone else thinking this might be follow the leader all day Saturday?

https://youtu.be/LQGjRW7ljmM
Good job, buddy.
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I enjoyed today’s races
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JMR1976 wrote:
I enjoyed today’s races
I enjoyed it too, I think the track looked great and the heat definitely separated those who prepared just a little harder than the rest. Biggest complaint I heard all day, start building up the spectator areas a bit. The viewing wasn’t great but a little elevation would help a ton and keep ya from standing in that cow pasture manure mud
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Diamondback/Cocoa was flat (so flat, it's now a baseball/football field facility)
Ask anyone who ever rode there, am or pro, and they'll tell you the toughest track they ever rode
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kpiper 6/23/2019 10:12am
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EngIceDave wrote:
Diamondback/Cocoa was flat (so flat, it's now a baseball/football field facility) Ask anyone who ever rode there, am or pro, and they'll tell you the toughest...
Diamondback/Cocoa was flat (so flat, it's now a baseball/football field facility)
Ask anyone who ever rode there, am or pro, and they'll tell you the toughest track they ever rode
That was a GREAT track. Loved it.
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kpiper 6/23/2019 11:35am
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MM25 post-race press conference.

'The track was awesome. They did a great job. This is real motocross.'
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9bro9 wrote:
racing was so boring. yawn...

What a f*cking shake up in points in both classes to keep things interesting. Disappointing for CS23 to say the least....
I'm confused, did you watch the same race as the rest of us?
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JMR1976 wrote:
I enjoyed today’s races
jumpinjack wrote:
I enjoyed it too, I think the track looked great and the heat definitely separated those who prepared just a little harder than the rest. Biggest...
I enjoyed it too, I think the track looked great and the heat definitely separated those who prepared just a little harder than the rest. Biggest complaint I heard all day, start building up the spectator areas a bit. The viewing wasn’t great but a little elevation would help a ton and keep ya from standing in that cow pasture manure mud
I’ve already heard they have plans to build more areas spectator friendly. The thing about the Scarborough family is, if there is something to be made better, they will do it. They learned from year one, and will make it better for the next time! I can’t wait to watch the race on tv and see how it looked!
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mulletracer 6/23/2019 6:34pm
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JMR1976 wrote:
I enjoyed today’s races
jumpinjack wrote:
I enjoyed it too, I think the track looked great and the heat definitely separated those who prepared just a little harder than the rest. Biggest...
I enjoyed it too, I think the track looked great and the heat definitely separated those who prepared just a little harder than the rest. Biggest complaint I heard all day, start building up the spectator areas a bit. The viewing wasn’t great but a little elevation would help a ton and keep ya from standing in that cow pasture manure mud
Renner153 wrote:
I’ve already heard they have plans to build more areas spectator friendly. The thing about the Scarborough family is, if there is something to be made...
I’ve already heard they have plans to build more areas spectator friendly. The thing about the Scarborough family is, if there is something to be made better, they will do it. They learned from year one, and will make it better for the next time! I can’t wait to watch the race on tv and see how it looked!
I agree with you, they will definitely take the criticism and improve their facility if reasonable. Only thing I think they really needed was more shaded bleachers for general admission. Also if they were elevated a little more that would of been even better. These are only minor complaints though.
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