Justin Cooper podium interview

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whammy 6/3/2019 6:35pm
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You can spin it anyway you want. But he cut the whole corner and entered the track before Cooper.

Also he could of wheelied over the banners at the apex of the corner at the same angle he cut in the track- but probably figured it was too 'far out of the way'
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You can spin it anyway you want. But he cut the whole corner and entered the track before Cooper. Also he could of wheelied over the...
You can spin it anyway you want. But he cut the whole corner and entered the track before Cooper.

Also he could of wheelied over the banners at the apex of the corner at the same angle he cut in the track- but probably figured it was too 'far out of the way'
Or he didn’t want to wheelie over any banners at all. If you watch his go pro video he clearly slows down and looks around for an opening. Went to the other side of the corner, still couldn’t find an opening so he wheelied over the banner. You’re clearly the one doing the “spinning.”
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TDeath21 6/3/2019 9:38pm
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The more I watch AC’s GoPro, the more I feel he should be penalized. He saved himself a few seconds with that track cut. Had he gotten back on the track and went around the turn, Cooper would have been long gone. He also didn’t let him go nearly as much as I previously thought. Just gave him a few more bike lengths. Furthermore, if we are getting technical and going by the letter of the law, he did cut the track and pass Cooper in the process.
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I get it. Roczen could have went off track in the first moto while having a 20 second lead and he could re-enter in the next safest place still 20 seconds ahead that would be okay. I bet he wishes he did that every lap as to take a rest and skip a gnarly section. Got it.
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Nah he’s my favorite rider. He’s a great person to cheer for. But I’m not gonna put fanboy blinders on when it comes to this. I do know what law and legality is. No reason for the personal attacks but you go ahead and stay classy.
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TDeath21 6/3/2019 9:52pm
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I get it. Roczen could have went off track in the first moto while having a 20 second lead and he could re-enter in the next...
I get it. Roczen could have went off track in the first moto while having a 20 second lead and he could re-enter in the next safest place still 20 seconds ahead that would be okay. I bet he wishes he did that every lap as to take a rest and skip a gnarly section. Got it.
That does bring up a whole different issue with how this rule is written. If two guys are battling and Rider A is much faster than Rider B in X section, if I were Rider B I’d just send it each lap through there. If I make a mistake just go off the track and not lose any time. Really doesn’t make sense how the rule is written. The advantage they gain is that they don’t lose time due to their mistake.

If AC went over to a gap in the banners I’d be much more on his side. But he didn’t. He wheelied through them just like he could have to his left side. But that would have cost him a ton of time. Instead he got to rejoin and hardly lose anything, fluster Cooper a little on re-entry, continue applying the pressure, and eventually force a mistake. Not sure how anyone can think that’s okay.
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swtwtwtw 6/3/2019 9:54pm
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swtwtwtw wrote:
I get it. Roczen could have went off track in the first moto while having a 20 second lead and he could re-enter in the next...
I get it. Roczen could have went off track in the first moto while having a 20 second lead and he could re-enter in the next safest place still 20 seconds ahead that would be okay. I bet he wishes he did that every lap as to take a rest and skip a gnarly section. Got it.
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That does bring up a whole different issue with how this rule is written. If two guys are battling and Rider A is much faster than...
That does bring up a whole different issue with how this rule is written. If two guys are battling and Rider A is much faster than Rider B in X section, if I were Rider B I’d just send it each lap through there. If I make a mistake just go off the track and not lose any time. Really doesn’t make sense how the rule is written. The advantage they gain is that they don’t lose time due to their mistake.

If AC went over to a gap in the banners I’d be much more on his side. But he didn’t. He wheelied through them just like he could have to his left side. But that would have cost him a ton of time. Instead he got to rejoin and hardly lose anything, fluster Cooper a little on re-entry, continue applying the pressure, and eventually force a mistake. Not sure how anyone can think that’s okay.
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You’re leaving out the whole “at the next safest spot” clause. Of course I would have a problem if he cut the entire infield and waited...
You’re leaving out the whole “at the next safest spot” clause. Of course I would have a problem if he cut the entire infield and waited a half a track away. That’s ridiculous. I thought that was a given.
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So Honest question Should AC have went to the next available place as he did or Hit the Brakes turned around and went back on where...
So Honest question Should AC have went to the next available place as he did or Hit the Brakes turned around and went back on where he went off?
I know thats what they have been Doing but imo
It needs to be Changed.
The only time i see where you cant get back on in the same place is if you go over a Berm, if you go over a berm then enter immediately after the Berm.
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So he should have wheelied over the banners and onto the track perpendicular to a fifth gear, wide-open uphill lane? Sounds perfectly safe.
No he Should have Hit the Brakes Turned around and entered the track where he went off.
And thats what the rules should be changed to imo
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Ask Ryno about an extra 75 yards.
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swtwtwtw wrote:
I get it. Roczen could have went off track in the first moto while having a 20 second lead and he could re-enter in the next...
I get it. Roczen could have went off track in the first moto while having a 20 second lead and he could re-enter in the next safest place still 20 seconds ahead that would be okay. I bet he wishes he did that every lap as to take a rest and skip a gnarly section. Got it.
TDeath21 wrote:
That does bring up a whole different issue with how this rule is written. If two guys are battling and Rider A is much faster than...
That does bring up a whole different issue with how this rule is written. If two guys are battling and Rider A is much faster than Rider B in X section, if I were Rider B I’d just send it each lap through there. If I make a mistake just go off the track and not lose any time. Really doesn’t make sense how the rule is written. The advantage they gain is that they don’t lose time due to their mistake.

If AC went over to a gap in the banners I’d be much more on his side. But he didn’t. He wheelied through them just like he could have to his left side. But that would have cost him a ton of time. Instead he got to rejoin and hardly lose anything, fluster Cooper a little on re-entry, continue applying the pressure, and eventually force a mistake. Not sure how anyone can think that’s okay.
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swtwtwtw wrote:
I get it. Roczen could have went off track in the first moto while having a 20 second lead and he could re-enter in the next...
I get it. Roczen could have went off track in the first moto while having a 20 second lead and he could re-enter in the next safest place still 20 seconds ahead that would be okay. I bet he wishes he did that every lap as to take a rest and skip a gnarly section. Got it.
TDeath21 wrote:
That does bring up a whole different issue with how this rule is written. If two guys are battling and Rider A is much faster than...
That does bring up a whole different issue with how this rule is written. If two guys are battling and Rider A is much faster than Rider B in X section, if I were Rider B I’d just send it each lap through there. If I make a mistake just go off the track and not lose any time. Really doesn’t make sense how the rule is written. The advantage they gain is that they don’t lose time due to their mistake.

If AC went over to a gap in the banners I’d be much more on his side. But he didn’t. He wheelied through them just like he could have to his left side. But that would have cost him a ton of time. Instead he got to rejoin and hardly lose anything, fluster Cooper a little on re-entry, continue applying the pressure, and eventually force a mistake. Not sure how anyone can think that’s okay.
The fact that you think the officials would just let this go is absolutely mind-boggling. They have a specific clause noting that it's up to race direction to determine if an advantage is being gained. They would have no problem disqualifying someone who attempts what you've suggested. Fucking hell, read the rules and get some common sense!
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10 pages about this? Ya’ll need to find something better to do with your time. It’s a non-issue.
It really was a non-issue.... Until some whiny lil dude who thought he "won" got on the mic..... LOL
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Can we, as fans, sue the racers for causing emotional distress and/or mental anguish?

Also, my head hurts from reading this thread, so there's that too...
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Langhammx wrote:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=iBGSgJ0HyVI

Cooper doing the same thing....
Exactly!

The only issue I see here is that Cooper has let this get into his head. He is dwelling on shit he can't change. The call was made, move on and If anything he should draw on this as motivation to go out and start winning motos.

Wins for him will come but being pissed off ain't helping.
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MOTO732 6/4/2019 8:05am
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What's Copper's next excuse? I can see the post race now...Man, I had AC totally covered that moto. But he's a faster and better rider than me and I lost. Check the rule books on this shit...not fair...I wanna win!
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Mr. Afterbar wrote:
10 pages about this? Ya’ll need to find something better to do with your time. It’s a non-issue.
gt80rider wrote:
It really was a non-issue.... Until some whiny lil dude who thought he "won" got on the mic..... LOL
There's a hell of a lot more whining going on in this thread. Bunch of hypocrites.
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Mr. Afterbar wrote:
10 pages about this? Ya’ll need to find something better to do with your time. It’s a non-issue.
gt80rider wrote:
It really was a non-issue.... Until some whiny lil dude who thought he "won" got on the mic..... LOL
Still a non issue, as the powers that govern MX said, no harm, no foul. Just a bunch of people on here who hate the Baby Jesus winning again.
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Some people make and enforce the rules.
Some people gotta follow the rules and abide by the rule makers decisions.
Easy as that.
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FROM: MX Sports Pro Racing

DATE: June 11, 2019

RE: COMPETITION BULLETIN 2019-9: Resolution of Justin Cooper Appeal

At the completion of the recent Thunder Valley National in Lakewood, Colorado, Round 3 of the Lucas Oil Pro Motocross Championship, a protest was filed with MX Sports Pro Racing by Justin Cooper regarding an off-track excursion and subsequent track re-entry by Adam Cianciarulo, during Moto 2 of the 250 Class, in which both riders were participants.

The original protest was denied by MX Sport Pro Racing Race Director, Jeff Canfield. This decision was appealed to AMA Pro Racing, the official sanctioning body for the Series. MX Sports Pro Racing has been notified by AMA Pro Racing that it has reviewed the incident related to the appeal and the protest and appeal process, and has determined that the matter did not meet the necessary requirements for appeal consideration.

With the appeal formally resolved by AMA Pro Racing, the Provisional Results of the 250 Class for the Lakewood National are now official and the results final.
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Since appealing something is simply a review process and isn't connected to the result of that process, it sounds like the appeal wouldn't even be heard because of some criteria. I'm curious to know what criteria prevented the appeal from being heard.
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[b]FROM: MX Sports Pro Racing[/b] DATE: June 11, 2019 [b]RE: COMPETITION BULLETIN 2019-9: Resolution of Justin Cooper Appeal [/b] At the completion of the recent Thunder...
FROM: MX Sports Pro Racing

DATE: June 11, 2019

RE: COMPETITION BULLETIN 2019-9: Resolution of Justin Cooper Appeal

At the completion of the recent Thunder Valley National in Lakewood, Colorado, Round 3 of the Lucas Oil Pro Motocross Championship, a protest was filed with MX Sports Pro Racing by Justin Cooper regarding an off-track excursion and subsequent track re-entry by Adam Cianciarulo, during Moto 2 of the 250 Class, in which both riders were participants.

The original protest was denied by MX Sport Pro Racing Race Director, Jeff Canfield. This decision was appealed to AMA Pro Racing, the official sanctioning body for the Series. MX Sports Pro Racing has been notified by AMA Pro Racing that it has reviewed the incident related to the appeal and the protest and appeal process, and has determined that the matter did not meet the necessary requirements for appeal consideration.

With the appeal formally resolved by AMA Pro Racing, the Provisional Results of the 250 Class for the Lakewood National are now official and the results final.


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Since appealing something is simply a review process and isn't connected to the result of that process, it sounds like the appeal wouldn't even be heard...
Since appealing something is simply a review process and isn't connected to the result of that process, it sounds like the appeal wouldn't even be heard because of some criteria. I'm curious to know what criteria prevented the appeal from being heard.
I think the criteria was the we ain't gonna listen to no whiny little bitch appeal criteria. Wink
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Hahaha, there's that, but I'm wondering if there really is some criteria, or if it's just a dude that says, "yeah he crashed later so it doesn't matter". I often get the feeling that moto org's are really just a mountain dew drinking nerd living in their parent's basement.

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