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6/4/2019 10:21pm
I see very many people aren't too happy with them this year based off what I have seen. People want more out of a bike these days and the YZ is lacking in terms of “updates”. These bikes can't complete with the husky/KTMs anymore. When will Yamaha learn that a 15 year old design is not cutting it anymore. What I don't get is why people buy these bikes new, when you can find a 06+ YZ125/250, completely rebuild it ground up, and come out at half of what a 2020 costs. Anyways, good luck Yamaha!
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retooling costs a ton of money, and would raise the costs of the bike. you'll see them stop making them before you get a redesign i think.
1. Get the damn four stroke style swing arm on these bikes for God’s sake! It would save them money since they can share parts between bikes, and all it would require is a change in the machining done post process to the extruded piece the linkage mounts to. It’s simple as hell and honestly it’s almost insulting they can’t make this simple yet extremely effective change for better handling.
2. Bring the rake angle in a bit. The four stroke swingarm helps, but these bikes still push the front end. A little bit of a steeper head angle would help out a lot, and would require very little manufacturing change.
3. Please, can we please, I beg of you, get rid of the Phillips head hardware!!! It’s 2019, holy hell man how hard is it to sub in some button head Allens in place of these?
4. This one is asking a lot, but nobody should be kicking their bikes to life in 2019, please put a starter on. I’ve given up on this ever happening unless I do it myself but I can wish.
/rant
Nobody wants an 06' Craigslist special that some teenager has "rebuilt". I have bought plenty of them. You will spend another $2,00 fixing it.
$6300 for a brand new 125 is not a bad deal. 10 year old clapped out YZ on Craigslist is going to cost you $3,000 plus all the 10 years of needed repairs. Your better off to buy new and buy once, cry once.
As far as why people would buy a new YZ instead of a KTM or even an older YZ, well you save some money vs a KTM, get better suspension right off the showroom floor vs a KTM and when comparing to a used YZ you can never beat a fresh bike! I love my 05 and plan on keeping it for as long as possible, but I wouldn’t hesitate to add a new YZ125 or 250 to my garage.
As far as which bike takes to engine mods better, it's probably the KTM, but Derek Harris could answer that.
If RV can be competitive on a YZ250 vs KTM 300s at straight rhythm, you can win your local C class races against anything. I know I do. Hell I've pulled 450s down plenty of starts too... A lot of guys don't like turning their throttle all the way (including my slow ass, but I make an exception for starts).
The YZ could definitely use some small frame and swingarm updates... I'll agree with that. No e-start on the MX models. Get out of here with that BS. The X models, maybe.
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You seriously can’t compare a BRAND FUCKING NEW bike to a 14 year old clapper, the 06 you’re looking at on Craigslist has over 100 hours on the frame and suspension most likely
Anyone that needs e start on a two stroke is noodle legged idiot
Most of us are just as slow with the extra power and gizmos
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it
Yamahas are the bees knees go fuck yourself OP
Much ty
About the e start statement: Imagine yourself on the side of a slick steep ass hill....with no way to gain balance or traction enough to kickstart the bike again.
Also you CAN compare a new to a "fucking 14 year old bike". Its called ground up rebuilding it. Same shit except for half the cost. lol
Your whole comment shows your MASSIVE ego. Thanks for sharing bud.
So I figured that the money I could get for my bike in current condition plus the money I would put into it for a couple grand extra I would have a nice fresh bike with all brand new parts including frame and suspension.
So, which one would it be? KTM or Yamaha. I read all the reviews and broke them down into sections. The brakes on the ktm are better although with a 270mm rotor on my yz I rarely need more than 1 finger on the front brake. Chassis was better on the ktm but once I had the suspension on the yz revalved it turned much better than stock and was still stable. Motor wise the ktm is stronger off the bottom and mid but signs off where the yz pulls longer up top with only a 1hp deficit at peak. Suspension on the yz is better and at 35 my knees were swaying me that way.
Then I started talking to guys at the track, some loved their ktm/husky's, some loved everything about them except the forks. Again I talked to my mechanic and he said he would do a spring conversion which would cost me around $800.
In the end I chose the yamaha, the better suspension was enough to win me over, I picked up the yz for around $1000 less than the ktm and I'm still running stock suspension minus some clicker changes. Also my bike came with a GYTR pipe and silencer which gives a nice boost over the stock yz pipe
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