Where's the torque wrench??

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Edited Date/Time 5/5/2019 7:09am
Not mine..but a competitor in my class from last weekend out at the Oatfield.

This is a Honda hub with....


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Falcon 5/3/2019 2:28pm
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Are my eyes playing tricks or is that another broken hub right next to it? Jeez, doesn't that guy torque his sprocket bolts EVER???
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Sr_Vet_Rider 5/3/2019 2:31pm
5/3/2019 2:31pm
I’ve seen this with Talon sprockets (and others without the center ring)

I’ll stick with Renthal sprockets myself....
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mattyhamz2 5/3/2019 2:43pm
5/3/2019 2:43pm
Sr_Vet_Rider wrote:
I’ve seen this with Talon sprockets (and others without the center ring)

I’ll stick with Renthal sprockets myself....
Agreed. I'll never use any type of sprocket like that. Weren't Vortex sprockets doing the same thing?
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BR8ES 5/3/2019 2:49pm
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Every failure I have seen is without a center ring, had to be a structural design flaw, no matter the brand. Dirt Tricks or Sunstar Works Z for me.
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Sr_Vet_Rider 5/3/2019 3:01pm
5/3/2019 3:01pm
Sr_Vet_Rider wrote:
I’ve seen this with Talon sprockets (and others without the center ring)

I’ll stick with Renthal sprockets myself....
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Agreed. I'll never use any type of sprocket like that. Weren't Vortex sprockets doing the same thing?
Yes.
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b8res 5/3/2019 3:05pm
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Falcon wrote:
Are my eyes playing tricks or is that another broken hub right next to it? Jeez, doesn't that guy torque his sprocket bolts EVER???
There are several more just like that laying around...
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Hammer 663s 5/3/2019 3:27pm
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Mika Metals has an awesome OTHG discount. Maybe he should buy a better sprocket.
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Underground 5/3/2019 3:34pm
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b8res wrote:
Not mine..but a competitor in my class from last weekend out at the Oatfield. This is a Honda hub with.... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/03/344091/s1200_20190502_161944.jpg[/img]
Not mine..but a competitor in my class from last weekend out at the Oatfield.

This is a Honda hub with....


Wonder how long it has been running bent or off center? Going by the rub marks.
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752dad 5/3/2019 6:17pm
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2 bolts missing and corresponding bosses in the hub are intact. Hmmmmm

KC
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Naanak 5/3/2019 10:16pm
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Underground wrote:
Wonder how long it has been running bent or off center? Going by the rub marks.
That could have been the chain guide. The stock one rubs the sprocket.
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shuggs 5/4/2019 12:47am
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Have/ will never use anything but Renthal sprockets - chains on the other hand I will never go near theirs again after a failure in ‘05!!!!
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MX558 5/4/2019 2:39am
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I read about the problems with that sprocket design way back when from all places MXA . Seemed to make sense so I have avoided them regardless on manufacturer.
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shuggs wrote:
Have/ will never use anything but Renthal sprockets - chains on the other hand I will never go near theirs again after a failure in ‘05!!!!
Same. I saw a buddy break a new Renthal chain on a CR250 back when they first came out and it left a lasting impression on me. I’m a firm believer in their sprockets and handlebars though.
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CG118 5/4/2019 5:37am
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752dad wrote:
2 bolts missing and corresponding bosses in the hub are intact. Hmmmmm

KC
Yup.
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Underground wrote:
Wonder how long it has been running bent or off center? Going by the rub marks.
Naanak wrote:
That could have been the chain guide. The stock one rubs the sprocket.
the uneven pattern of the wear suggests a bent sprocket
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mikec265 5/4/2019 7:18am
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Never had a problem with a cheap steel sprocket on the back...
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dirtmike86 5/4/2019 7:48am
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I don't know everyone's not running a Dirt Tricks. I'll never run another sprocket.
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jeffro503 5/4/2019 9:23am
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shuggs wrote:
Have/ will never use anything but Renthal sprockets - chains on the other hand I will never go near theirs again after a failure in ‘05!!!!
reded wrote:
Same. I saw a buddy break a new Renthal chain on a CR250 back when they first came out and it left a lasting impression on...
Same. I saw a buddy break a new Renthal chain on a CR250 back when they first came out and it left a lasting impression on me. I’m a firm believer in their sprockets and handlebars though.
Pro Taper makes some really strong sprocket's as well. I use both , although I really , really dig the Renthal twin ring.

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jeffro503 5/4/2019 9:27am
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dirtmike86 wrote:
I don't know everyone's not running a Dirt Tricks. I'll never run another sprocket.
I've looked at these , and I just can't wrap my head around how much metal " isn't " there. They look really cool , and I've heard good thing's about them , so I guess it's just a piece of mind thing for me on why I haven't ran one yet.

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Badd127 5/4/2019 10:49am
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dirtmike86 wrote:
I don't know everyone's not running a Dirt Tricks. I'll never run another sprocket.
jeffro503 wrote:
I've looked at these , and I just can't wrap my head around how much metal " isn't " there. They look really cool , and...
I've looked at these , and I just can't wrap my head around how much metal " isn't " there. They look really cool , and I've heard good thing's about them , so I guess it's just a piece of mind thing for me on why I haven't ran one yet.

I bought my bike second hand, and it had a dirt tricks sprocket on it. That opened my eyes to how good they are. I ran it for 50+hrs, then sold the bike with It, still nearly looking like new.
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Justin345 5/4/2019 10:57am
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jeffro503 wrote:
I've looked at these , and I just can't wrap my head around how much metal " isn't " there. They look really cool , and...
I've looked at these , and I just can't wrap my head around how much metal " isn't " there. They look really cool , and I've heard good thing's about them , so I guess it's just a piece of mind thing for me on why I haven't ran one yet.

I scooped up my first set a few weeks ago. It looks awesome! Hopefully it lasts as long as everyone says.

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mac3-d 5/4/2019 10:59am
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That was my guess too (chain too tight) but as already said two bolts missing ?
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dirtmike86 5/4/2019 11:46am
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jeffro503 wrote:
I've looked at these , and I just can't wrap my head around how much metal " isn't " there. They look really cool , and...
I've looked at these , and I just can't wrap my head around how much metal " isn't " there. They look really cool , and I've heard good thing's about them , so I guess it's just a piece of mind thing for me on why I haven't ran one yet.

Justin345 wrote:
I scooped up my first set a few weeks ago. It looks awesome! Hopefully it lasts as long as everyone says. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/04/344215/s1200_76E5ADED_1DF6_4C09_BD5D_646EA0074A7C.jpg[/img]
I scooped up my first set a few weeks ago. It looks awesome! Hopefully it lasts as long as everyone says.

That's it, last brand sprocket you will ever buy.
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dcg141 5/4/2019 11:50am
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2 broken hubs....looks like operator error.
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On a Honda? Wow, good thing this wasn't a KTM.
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Yeti365 5/4/2019 12:05pm
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Sr_Vet_Rider wrote:
I’ve seen this with Talon sprockets (and others without the center ring)

I’ll stick with Renthal sprockets myself....
I used Ironman until Renthal was in their second year of their Twinring. Best damn sprockets ever imo.
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jeffro503 5/4/2019 2:17pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
I've looked at these , and I just can't wrap my head around how much metal " isn't " there. They look really cool , and...
I've looked at these , and I just can't wrap my head around how much metal " isn't " there. They look really cool , and I've heard good thing's about them , so I guess it's just a piece of mind thing for me on why I haven't ran one yet.

Justin345 wrote:
I scooped up my first set a few weeks ago. It looks awesome! Hopefully it lasts as long as everyone says. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/04/344215/s1200_76E5ADED_1DF6_4C09_BD5D_646EA0074A7C.jpg[/img]
I scooped up my first set a few weeks ago. It looks awesome! Hopefully it lasts as long as everyone says.

dirtmike86 wrote:
That's it, last brand sprocket you will ever buy.
You guys running these on 450's? Wondering how the would hold up on a 250 2 stroke? Gawd! ...... it's hard to look past the lack of materials on these things. But they sure do look sweet!
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Turbojez 5/4/2019 3:20pm
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dirtmike86 wrote:
I don't know everyone's not running a Dirt Tricks. I'll never run another sprocket.
Answer is pretty simpe: cost.
I can buy both sprockets AND a good chain for the price of 1 dirt tricks sprocket.
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dirtmike86 5/4/2019 3:40pm
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Justin345 wrote:
I scooped up my first set a few weeks ago. It looks awesome! Hopefully it lasts as long as everyone says. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/04/344215/s1200_76E5ADED_1DF6_4C09_BD5D_646EA0074A7C.jpg[/img]
I scooped up my first set a few weeks ago. It looks awesome! Hopefully it lasts as long as everyone says.

dirtmike86 wrote:
That's it, last brand sprocket you will ever buy.
jeffro503 wrote:
You guys running these on 450's? Wondering how the would hold up on a 250 2 stroke? Gawd! ...... it's hard to look past the lack...
You guys running these on 450's? Wondering how the would hold up on a 250 2 stroke? Gawd! ...... it's hard to look past the lack of materials on these things. But they sure do look sweet!
I put almost 50 hours on my 350 with one. Currently almost 30 hours on my tc250 and just put one on my rmz450.
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dirtmike86 5/4/2019 3:44pm
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dirtmike86 wrote:
I don't know everyone's not running a Dirt Tricks. I'll never run another sprocket.
Turbojez wrote:
Answer is pretty simpe: cost.
I can buy both sprockets AND a good chain for the price of 1 dirt tricks sprocket.
And both sprockets will wear out in less time than the dirt tricks. Plus the hassle of replacing the sprockets. And RE torquing the sprocket bolts.
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