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my favorite racer of all time. I didn't even want to believe that, because I'm a late 80's fanatic (when I was 14). but something about...
my favorite racer of all time. I didn't even want to believe that, because I'm a late 80's fanatic (when I was 14). but something about V2, he just had a style and shark-like demeanor, I have to look back and say, he was in many ways my favorite to watch line up at the gate.

not to take away from all the mechanical advice posts (ahem).
I hated him when he was riding because he was kicking everyones ass and making it boring. He was also pretty dry with the press.

Now that he is retired, I frickin love that guy!

When he came back from a big deficit to take the title from Davey I was really pissed off!
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RV doesnt get enough credit for how consistent he was. He was consistent enough to beat Dungey (most consistent ever) for 4 years straight... If you have even 1 off night Dungey wins. RV was on it.
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The way he used so many outside lines to keep up his momentum and soaked up jumps was so awesome. I remember changing my line selections at the track after watching him so much. Trying to take more outsides and just rail it. Next to Stewart he was my favorite rider to watch of all time.
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Watching Villopoto in the lites class was truly a sight to behold I was an instant fanboy from the first time he stepped into the circuit in 2006.

I never do the pits or autograph signings but in 2007 I just had to have it. I went to steel city got to the pits kinda late bcause you know adult beverages. Sat in line for 3hrs with a #51 Jersey and I was literally the next person in line when he shut it down I was super bummed. Thought about just sending it to him numerous times via different companies like twmx or something and if they would have got it signed and sent awesome if not oh well but never followed thru.
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When he rode lites and used to hang off the back of that thing wide open steering with the back wheel was something to behold
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I think RV's greatest attribute wasn't his skill level(which is obviously enormous and higher than just about anyone that has ever put wheels on a Pro MX track) but his killer instinct and never say die fight.

I'm saying that as a major Villo fan and I was REALLY hoping to see that from Eli, but its just not quite there. If Eli gets a bad start or small crash , a win isn't typically in the cards. When Ryan suffered issues ,he was capable of wicking it up and slicing from 22nd to win and provided a serious level of excitement. (Like Stewart/ RC were capable of ,as well).

It just doesn't seem there is anyone currently that has that same combination of speed/skill/killer instinct with the possible exception of the emerging Webb--but its just a tad too early yet to confirm.
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Villopoto is to this day my favorite racer i've ever watched.

i loved MC because that was when i started racing/following the sport.

i hated RC because MC was my guy, but then towards the end of his career i started to respect him.

i've always loved Reed.

but none of them have ever impressed me the way that RV did through his entire career. the kid hated to lose, had a serious chip on his shoulder, and rode balls-to-the-wall every time he hit the track. i was at Budds for the '07 MXdN and have never to this day witnessed anyone ride a bike like he did that day. insane. i've seen him race more than any other rider and was always in awe, every time.
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peelout wrote:
Villopoto is to this day my favorite racer i've ever watched. i loved MC because that was when i started racing/following the sport. i hated RC...
Villopoto is to this day my favorite racer i've ever watched.

i loved MC because that was when i started racing/following the sport.

i hated RC because MC was my guy, but then towards the end of his career i started to respect him.

i've always loved Reed.

but none of them have ever impressed me the way that RV did through his entire career. the kid hated to lose, had a serious chip on his shoulder, and rode balls-to-the-wall every time he hit the track. i was at Budds for the '07 MXdN and have never to this day witnessed anyone ride a bike like he did that day. insane. i've seen him race more than any other rider and was always in awe, every time.
Says a lot about the level that BT101 was on that summer. Probably one of the best 250 outdoor championships in history.
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peelout wrote:
Villopoto is to this day my favorite racer i've ever watched. i loved MC because that was when i started racing/following the sport. i hated RC...
Villopoto is to this day my favorite racer i've ever watched.

i loved MC because that was when i started racing/following the sport.

i hated RC because MC was my guy, but then towards the end of his career i started to respect him.

i've always loved Reed.

but none of them have ever impressed me the way that RV did through his entire career. the kid hated to lose, had a serious chip on his shoulder, and rode balls-to-the-wall every time he hit the track. i was at Budds for the '07 MXdN and have never to this day witnessed anyone ride a bike like he did that day. insane. i've seen him race more than any other rider and was always in awe, every time.
kawirider819 wrote:
Says a lot about the level that BT101 was on that summer. Probably one of the best 250 outdoor championships in history.
i was gutted when i got my Great Outdoors DVD back from my nephew and it had a crack

i would agree that was the best outdoor championship ever
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When he rode lites and used to hang off the back of that thing wide open steering with the back wheel was something to behold
Hell yea. That reminds me of him. Even on 85s. Check out him romping 250fs on an 85. At :36 seconds hes hanging off the back wheeliing thru an s turn.
https://youtu.be/7l4HOdkmvrI
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MXDN Champ
SX Champ
MX Champ
MEC Champ

The only recent guy that comes close to his records/level is RD5. And RV was waaay faster when he was on it.
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peelout wrote:
Villopoto is to this day my favorite racer i've ever watched. i loved MC because that was when i started racing/following the sport. i hated RC...
Villopoto is to this day my favorite racer i've ever watched.

i loved MC because that was when i started racing/following the sport.

i hated RC because MC was my guy, but then towards the end of his career i started to respect him.

i've always loved Reed.

but none of them have ever impressed me the way that RV did through his entire career. the kid hated to lose, had a serious chip on his shoulder, and rode balls-to-the-wall every time he hit the track. i was at Budds for the '07 MXdN and have never to this day witnessed anyone ride a bike like he did that day. insane. i've seen him race more than any other rider and was always in awe, every time.
Was there that day, frkn epic I tell ya!
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Never liked him when he was racing but was in awe always. Always respected him.
Dudes a legend now in even more ways
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Kawikid121 wrote:
Watching Villopoto in the lites class was truly a sight to behold I was an instant fanboy from the first time he stepped into the circuit...
Watching Villopoto in the lites class was truly a sight to behold I was an instant fanboy from the first time he stepped into the circuit in 2006.

I never do the pits or autograph signings but in 2007 I just had to have it. I went to steel city got to the pits kinda late bcause you know adult beverages. Sat in line for 3hrs with a #51 Jersey and I was literally the next person in line when he shut it down I was super bummed. Thought about just sending it to him numerous times via different companies like twmx or something and if they would have got it signed and sent awesome if not oh well but never followed thru.
That happened to my daughter and myself with RC when S/X came to Vancouver. He told her “sorry sweetie, I have to eat”. She was thrilled he talked to her.
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What really puts RVs legacy into perspective for me is Eli Tomac. I consider Tomac RV lite - and Eli is one of the fastest guys on the planet...
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Thinking about it has RV changed the way the sport is in any major way? Im trying to think of ways he has changed the very way people ride or attack a championship.

RC Made it so everybody had to be in absolute top of the top world class shape in order to win championships.

JS7 Made it so you not only made up time in corners, but now on jumps with the scrub. Before the scrub everybody jumped essentially the same and you couldn't make up time on someone on jumps, it came down to corner speed... Then he showed that whoever scrubs the hardest shaves the most time.

RD Changed the way riders look at the championship. He made it so guys look at the bigger picture and the name of the game now is to never finish outside the top 4 all season. If you do that you win... Kenny keeps getting the red plate and has 0 wins.

RV I cant think of anything he did specifically THAT much different or that completely changed the sport, other than he took all of those things and combined them to be the best US rider of the modern era since RC. He had the fitness with Aldon, he used the scrub, and he also was VERY consistent. He is underrated for his consistency because he beat Dungey 4 straight years, and Dungey is the most consistent rider of all time. Thats how consistent RV was in his prime. So can you guys think of something he changed forever or was he just the best at combining all of those things, while winning. I think the difference with him was he was not only consistent, but consistently won. Thats the only way he was able to beat Dungey.
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RV was all business and he was there for only one reason.....to win. Very aggressive and intense. He could straight up whoop an all time great like Stewart in supercross and then whoop an ultra fit workhorse like Dungey in the outdoors. When asked at if he still enjoyed it at the end of the 2014 supercross season, he replied "My job is to win championships, and I take my job very seriously". Awesome. I've always been a Webb fan because he shares many of the same characteristics as RV. He hates losing. Hes aggressive and intense. Now that he's clicking with his bike and program, he's taking it to the older and more experienced big dogs like Tomac, Roczen, and Musquin. The same way a young RV took it to the big dogs of his time once he got dialed in and confident on the 450. RV got it done and pulled off what he had to at mxon for the u.s. to win. An American badass for sure. Whether or not Webb is able to duplicate what RV did, I think he is the same type of fearless warrior and similar in many ways. Time will tell if thats the case or not.
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His ability to be on the outside then dive to inside and make passes on early sx laps was so aggressive and confident. For me that was his signature.
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peelout wrote:
Villopoto is to this day my favorite racer i've ever watched. i loved MC because that was when i started racing/following the sport. i hated RC...
Villopoto is to this day my favorite racer i've ever watched.

i loved MC because that was when i started racing/following the sport.

i hated RC because MC was my guy, but then towards the end of his career i started to respect him.

i've always loved Reed.

but none of them have ever impressed me the way that RV did through his entire career. the kid hated to lose, had a serious chip on his shoulder, and rode balls-to-the-wall every time he hit the track. i was at Budds for the '07 MXdN and have never to this day witnessed anyone ride a bike like he did that day. insane. i've seen him race more than any other rider and was always in awe, every time.
kawirider819 wrote:
Says a lot about the level that BT101 was on that summer. Probably one of the best 250 outdoor championships in history.
peelout wrote:
i was gutted when i got my Great Outdoors DVD back from my nephew and it had a crack i would agree that was the best...
i was gutted when i got my Great Outdoors DVD back from my nephew and it had a crack

i would agree that was the best outdoor championship ever
That Sux man, but Its on YouTube now.. I re-watched it recently.. one of the best mx vids ever IMO
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RV was one of the best, he had all the things that made for a great racer and few flaws. Rarely did you ever not see massive roost off the rear tire, he was always on the gas. Awesome racecraft: get a good start, throw down some super-fast laps and crush the competition early, then set it on cruise for the win. I can see that in Forkner as well, he starts well and goes like hell from the first lap. The man was all business, worked very, very hard, took no prisoners. I really think that fall day in 2007 at Budd's Creek awakened his Beast Mode. Eli turns his on and off, RV's was stuck on.
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drt410 wrote:
2nd place amateur guys are 1st place pro guys cuz they learn how to handle adversity as a kid which is twice as hard so when...
2nd place amateur guys are 1st place pro guys cuz they learn how to handle adversity as a kid which is twice as hard so when they go pro with top equipment theyre killers. Getting your ass kicked... Every. Single. Race. Sux enough as an adult, when your a kid its the end of the world. It builds tough kids that excel under pressure and when problems arise they dont unravel like Tomac. RV, Dungey, Webb...
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Dungey, unravel? Really?
drt410 wrote:
Lol u missed what I said. 2nd place guys like RV-Alessi, Dungey-B Class rider, Webb-Cianciarulo dont unravel like riders who won their whole lives like Tomac...
Lol u missed what I said. 2nd place guys like RV-Alessi, Dungey-B Class rider, Webb-Cianciarulo dont unravel like riders who won their whole lives like Tomac. They learn how to deal with adversity when its extra tough-as kids. There is a period also.
You still have me lost..

Now you’re saying Alessi was a 2nd place rider coming up?? No..... he won everything, and RV was 2nd to him..


P.s. Carmichael won everything imaginable, in every class he raced... forever.
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drt410 wrote:
2nd place amateur guys are 1st place pro guys cuz they learn how to handle adversity as a kid which is twice as hard so when...
2nd place amateur guys are 1st place pro guys cuz they learn how to handle adversity as a kid which is twice as hard so when they go pro with top equipment theyre killers. Getting your ass kicked... Every. Single. Race. Sux enough as an adult, when your a kid its the end of the world. It builds tough kids that excel under pressure and when problems arise they dont unravel like Tomac. RV, Dungey, Webb...
agn5009 wrote:
Dungey, unravel? Really?
drt410 wrote:
Lol u missed what I said. 2nd place guys like RV-Alessi, Dungey-B Class rider, Webb-Cianciarulo dont unravel like riders who won their whole lives like Tomac...
Lol u missed what I said. 2nd place guys like RV-Alessi, Dungey-B Class rider, Webb-Cianciarulo dont unravel like riders who won their whole lives like Tomac. They learn how to deal with adversity when its extra tough-as kids. There is a period also.
You're putting AC in there? All he did was win in amatuers and not win in the pros.

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