What if...? (Team Puerto Rico)

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tek14 8/14/2018 10:05am
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isnt there qualifying race they need to pass for real show?
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Donovan759 8/14/2018 10:05am
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HuskyEd wrote:
How does “Ronnie Mac” get an FIM license?

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8/14/2018 10:06am Edited Date/Time 8/14/2018 10:09am
holeshot100 wrote:
Without Ronnie Mac.... there was/is no Pastrana,..... without Pastrana there is no exposure for Puerto Rico....which means no funds. These guys are risking everything for a...
Without Ronnie Mac.... there was/is no Pastrana,..... without Pastrana there is no exposure for Puerto Rico....which means no funds.
These guys are risking everything for a good cause.
Also, who in the world doesn't want to hear two stokes again?
Do you want to be part of the group of people actively trying to stop this effort?
So be it...

I like the idea of the charitable component, whether it’s for Puerto Rico, or some other entity. I also like two-strokes. I hope people are buying like crazy from the web site. The stuff might make for an interesting collectible on a weird footnote to the biggest MX event we’ve seen in the U.S.

I’m not crazy about the idea of a fictional character lining up next to the elite riders of the sport.

Then there’s the event poaching, attempting to step on the Team USA announcement, and some of the other nonsense that went on at Unadilla...
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GuyB 8/14/2018 10:10am
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HuskyEd wrote:
How does “Ronnie Mac” get an FIM license?
He needs an AMA license first. Good luck with that.

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agn5009 8/14/2018 10:12am
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agn5009 wrote:
I could entertain this idea if it we're top 10 guys like Anderson, Baggett, Peick, AMart, Forkner etc that were representing Peurto Rico. But they're sending...
I could entertain this idea if it we're top 10 guys like Anderson, Baggett, Peick, AMart, Forkner etc that were representing Peurto Rico. But they're sending guys everyone knows won't be a threat to be inside the top 10. They're not sending a team to podium. They're sending a team to make money for a good cause. You're acting like the 3 guys being sent are 3 guys who would be next in line if any team USA members got hurt or pulled out of the race.
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I can assure you, there is no way I am acting under the logic that Pastrana, Sipes, and "Ronnie Mac" are the next 3 Americans to...
I can assure you, there is no way I am acting under the logic that Pastrana, Sipes, and "Ronnie Mac" are the next 3 Americans to give us our best shot.

Just a matter of opinion that if I'm asked to send my best three... I send my best three, not six. No matter how good or bad those extra three people or my intensions are I was asked to send three. Im fully on board with them (as well as every other American racer, rider, casual fan, or civilian) attending, making as much noise as they can, sell as much shit as they can, and make as much money as they can for Puerto Rico but I just feel they should be more respectful of the tradition of sending 3 and not play around with loopholes.

It's the same argument I make every year we send a second team.


Edit: I fully realize my bitching will do nothing to change the outcome of it, just sharing my views, and I hope they raise a shit ton of money for Puerto Rico.
We all hope they raise a shit ton of money for Peurto Rico. I don't necessarily agree with the USA basically being able to send 6 riders every year either. But it is what it is.

It would be cool to see Team USA get in on raising money for Peurto Rico (or some other charitable idea) too.
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Robgvx 8/14/2018 10:53am
8/14/2018 10:53am Edited Date/Time 8/14/2018 10:54am
HuskyEd wrote:
How does “Ronnie Mac” get an FIM license?
The same way ‘Harvey Mushman’ got an AMA one?
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HusqFan3 8/14/2018 11:03am
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akillerwombat wrote:
Personally it would still feel off... Granted going from Ronnie Mac the character to Brown the real human is a step up it brings more attention...
Personally it would still feel off...

Granted going from Ronnie Mac the character to Brown the real human is a step up it brings more attention to the fact that "we're exploiting a loophole to send a second team U.S.A.".

I know I'm in the minority here but if I agree to a game of 3x3 I don't try and get another 3 of my guys on the field because of a technicality only I can take advantage of.
If they were sending say a healthy Anderson, Baggett, JMart & actually trying to win and claim victory for the US I could see your point but the reality is something altogether different...

Edit: that and your 3:3 analogy doesn’t exactly apply unless they’re slowing the US and PR team to combine their scores: )
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One-Hander 8/14/2018 11:09am
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Ryan Sipes
Mike Brown
Chris Allredge

Three men who can ride a two stroke like a bat outta hell.

Instead - Pastrana can sign autographs, Ronnie can drink beer in the pits.

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JBecker 72 8/14/2018 11:11am
8/14/2018 11:11am Edited Date/Time 8/14/2018 11:36am
Puerto Rico is a joke of a territory anyway. Hopefully whatever funds these guys raise will actually go to helping the recovery and not corrupt government officials pockets. But I doubt it.

Edit: To clarify, I don’t mean this post as a dig at the population of PR, more a commentary of the sad reality there and their government.
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donMX14 8/14/2018 11:22am
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I’m pretty certain “Ronnie Mac” is not going to be racing MxDN. I would predict that prior to the actual race Mac has some legal or...
I’m pretty certain “Ronnie Mac” is not going to be racing MxDN. I would predict that prior to the actual race Mac has some legal or other entanglement that forces a rider such as Albertson, Steinke or even a Canard or Villopoto to fill in. There’s a reason Ronnie Mac’s name has not appeared on actual AMA or FIM entry lists.
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GuyB 8/14/2018 11:23am
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Robgvx wrote:
The same way ‘Harvey Mushman’ got an AMA one?
Unless you’re talking about some event I’m unaware of, the Elsinore GP was hardly an AMA National or MXoN.
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731chopper 8/14/2018 11:33am
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I really want to see Travis out there so whatever needs to happen for that to happen, I'm down with. I know Travis will be doing good just to run at the front of the B main but he is a childhood icon of mine and I'd love to see him out there one last time and this would be the perfect event for him to officially "ride into the sunset" in regards to racing.

I'm fine with Ronnie being there but I don't see how "he" could actually race. Jimmy either needs to race as himself because Ronnie "got arrested, broke his leg, etc." or somebody like Brownie or Stankdog should be in that spot.
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DC 8/14/2018 11:34am
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Rob, Harvey Mushman didn't have an FIM license, nor an AMA one, but Steve McQueen did when he rode the 1964 ISDT.



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TeamGreen 8/14/2018 11:41am
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What DC just did...right there...?

It's called "Dropping the Mic"!
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Bearuno 8/14/2018 11:42am
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Robgvx wrote:
The same way ‘Harvey Mushman’ got an AMA one?
GuyB wrote:
Unless you’re talking about some event I’m unaware of, the Elsinore GP was hardly an AMA National or MXoN.
Damn - DC got in before me.

Rob probably thought about the ISDT(s?) Steve did.

I'd seen, and saved, that picture of The King Of Cools licence.

Not sure if I'm right, but the original On Any Sunday may have used the Harvey Mushman name even with the coverage / reference to the Six Day, not just the other event(s) they mentioned Steve as being in?

The man was no 'Hollywood Poseur Biker', that's for sure - he was one of Us!
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JAFO92 8/14/2018 11:46am
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What if Wonder Warthog & Mole sponsored their entry fees ? Woohoo








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agn5009 wrote:
I could entertain this idea if it we're top 10 guys like Anderson, Baggett, Peick, AMart, Forkner etc that were representing Peurto Rico. But they're sending...
I could entertain this idea if it we're top 10 guys like Anderson, Baggett, Peick, AMart, Forkner etc that were representing Peurto Rico. But they're sending guys everyone knows won't be a threat to be inside the top 10. They're not sending a team to podium. They're sending a team to make money for a good cause. You're acting like the 3 guys being sent are 3 guys who would be next in line if any team USA members got hurt or pulled out of the race.
akillerwombat wrote:
I can assure you, there is no way I am acting under the logic that Pastrana, Sipes, and "Ronnie Mac" are the next 3 Americans to...
I can assure you, there is no way I am acting under the logic that Pastrana, Sipes, and "Ronnie Mac" are the next 3 Americans to give us our best shot.

Just a matter of opinion that if I'm asked to send my best three... I send my best three, not six. No matter how good or bad those extra three people or my intensions are I was asked to send three. Im fully on board with them (as well as every other American racer, rider, casual fan, or civilian) attending, making as much noise as they can, sell as much shit as they can, and make as much money as they can for Puerto Rico but I just feel they should be more respectful of the tradition of sending 3 and not play around with loopholes.

It's the same argument I make every year we send a second team.


Edit: I fully realize my bitching will do nothing to change the outcome of it, just sharing my views, and I hope they raise a shit ton of money for Puerto Rico.
I think that's a fair argument and I agree.

I also find it a bit interesting that this charade is being cloaked in "it's for charity" to somehow make this more palatable. That seems a bit disingenuous to be honest. Not knocking them on it, but still. Would a RC, RV, JS team get more charitable donations over TP, Mac, Sipes? What about Forkner, TP199, and Justin Cooper.

Maybe, maybe not.

Anyways, let the charade continue I guess. It's for charity after all.
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I have never been a true fan of the des nations before. I will be attending the race with friends from Texas this year. Most likely my only chance to see Herlings and Tc222 race in person. I'm disappointed in not seeing Marvin race and not a fan of this Puerto Rico team as well. Great that's it for a great cause but why not let Tp199 and Ronnie raise money another way ? I thought when they sent Tara Geiger it was bad enough.

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FlaNard 8/14/2018 11:52am
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Mike Brown is a goddamn boss and a legend. I'd welcome it.
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holeshot100 wrote:
Without Ronnie Mac.... there was/is no Pastrana,..... without Pastrana there is no exposure for Puerto Rico....which means no funds. These guys are risking everything for a...
Without Ronnie Mac.... there was/is no Pastrana,..... without Pastrana there is no exposure for Puerto Rico....which means no funds.
These guys are risking everything for a good cause.
Also, who in the world doesn't want to hear two stokes again?
Do you want to be part of the group of people actively trying to stop this effort?
GuyB wrote:
So be it... I like the idea of the charitable component, whether it’s for Puerto Rico, or some other entity. I also like two-strokes. I hope...
So be it...

I like the idea of the charitable component, whether it’s for Puerto Rico, or some other entity. I also like two-strokes. I hope people are buying like crazy from the web site. The stuff might make for an interesting collectible on a weird footnote to the biggest MX event we’ve seen in the U.S.

I’m not crazy about the idea of a fictional character lining up next to the elite riders of the sport.

Then there’s the event poaching, attempting to step on the Team USA announcement, and some of the other nonsense that went on at Unadilla...
What website?
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LungButter 8/14/2018 11:56am
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In my opinion that nobody gives a shit about...it was more of a joke for Tarah Geiger to be on on the team than Ronnie Mac. At least Ronnie has legit professional speed....
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GuyB 8/14/2018 12:09pm
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T-Fish wrote:
What website?
https://ronsontop.com/ Get there early for best selection.
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GuyB 8/14/2018 12:10pm
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LungButter wrote:
In my opinion that nobody gives a shit about...it was more of a joke for Tarah Geiger to be on on the team than Ronnie Mac...
In my opinion that nobody gives a shit about...it was more of a joke for Tarah Geiger to be on on the team than Ronnie Mac. At least Ronnie has legit professional speed....
How about more legit because she’s actually from Puerto Rico?
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shirey 8/14/2018 12:13pm
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I hope Ronnie Mac runs 25:1 and smokes out everyone off the start, then TP backflips and distracts the whole field long enough that they wreck, AND then sipes wins every moto on a 125.
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Jeff alessi 8/14/2018 12:15pm
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GuyB wrote:
What if...Mike Brown was on the team in place of Ronnie Mac?
Yes please. Even tho it would be hilarious to see a guy puking dip out of an open faced helmet on lap two. ?
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LungButter 8/14/2018 12:21pm
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GuyB wrote:
How about more legit because she’s actually from Puerto Rico?
All the same I think, both are just a publicity stunt, difference being one of them has the speed to belong on the track at that event and the other doesn't.

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GuyB wrote:
So be it... I like the idea of the charitable component, whether it’s for Puerto Rico, or some other entity. I also like two-strokes. I hope...
So be it...

I like the idea of the charitable component, whether it’s for Puerto Rico, or some other entity. I also like two-strokes. I hope people are buying like crazy from the web site. The stuff might make for an interesting collectible on a weird footnote to the biggest MX event we’ve seen in the U.S.

I’m not crazy about the idea of a fictional character lining up next to the elite riders of the sport.

Then there’s the event poaching, attempting to step on the Team USA announcement, and some of the other nonsense that went on at Unadilla...
These are my thoughts exactly.

+1 for Brownie over Ronnie Mac
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gabrielito 8/14/2018 12:32pm
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akillerwombat wrote:
Personally it would still feel off... Granted going from Ronnie Mac the character to Brown the real human is a step up it brings more attention...
Personally it would still feel off...

Granted going from Ronnie Mac the character to Brown the real human is a step up it brings more attention to the fact that "we're exploiting a loophole to send a second team U.S.A.".

I know I'm in the minority here but if I agree to a game of 3x3 I don't try and get another 3 of my guys on the field because of a technicality only I can take advantage of.
and you say we have no common ground. This whole concept is lame. Why don't we come up with a team Guam, and team America Samoa and send nine extra guys. We probably have enough territories to get most pro license carriers in it.
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