“Next big thing” riders

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King KTM 3/30/2018 10:18pm
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Drtbykr wrote:
I’m still trying to figure out if I would hire AC or AP when 450 time comes. I think on of them two will be “the...
I’m still trying to figure out if I would hire AC or AP when 450 time comes.
I think on of them two will be “the next big thing”. There are #5, #7 and #22 holes to fill on the top steps.

There were so many fast kids at the MEC on Superminis riding the track like a boss.
Still early to tell with them, burnout, body growth, who knows.

See Eddie Hicks, or even Mike Alessi. Alessi was good but really, he never won anything except a Canadian championship. He seems very nice and professional at our races.
This will probably not make sense but I would hire AP although I believe AC has the better chance to be the one.
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kzizok 3/30/2018 10:28pm
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King KTM wrote:
McGrath did not start riding until about 14.
McGrath was 5, when he started riding.
whateversclever69 3/30/2018 10:54pm
3/30/2018 10:54pm
TDeath21 wrote:
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes...
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes for great, close, unpredictable racing, but it’s certainly lacking with regards to the all time great department. Just look at each rider you think might be that guy and they have huge holes in their game that prevent them from greatness. Good not great is this era, and I don’t see anyone else coming up that is going to be at that level either. Like I said though, it makes for great unpredictable racing.
This is the reiterated point of this thread. Yes tdeath totally agree
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OFWGKTA 3/31/2018 6:15am
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I would say the closest is Jett Reynold followed by Ryder Difrancesco.

If i m correct, Jett will ride pro outdoor summer 2020. We will see by then if he can be the next big thing.

However nowaday, if Roczen succeed to clinch few titles in a row, i see him as the next Mcgrath in terms of popularity and media (IMO). He really likes to shine under the light,

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VilloFan951 3/31/2018 7:22am
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Ryder D has some skill so does Deegan but we will have to see how they handle the 250 when they get older
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Shaned9326 3/31/2018 8:12am
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He’s already here racing in Mxgp series!
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GregDVT 3/31/2018 8:19am
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dc444 wrote:
Ryan Dungey was not one one of these “up and comers”
kkawboy14 wrote:
I don’t think Ryan Dungey was on anyone’s radar at the time as the next big thing.
Ryan only had one Loretta’s title I think and I believe it was in schoolboy.
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JB 19 3/31/2018 9:38am
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aeffertz wrote:
The compitition is finally catching up to the elite guy since everyone racing now has been racing since they were in diapers. Like Rhonda Rowsey (sp?)...
The compitition is finally catching up to the elite guy since everyone racing now has been racing since they were in diapers.

Like Rhonda Rowsey (sp?) and MMA. She destroyed everyone because she was good, yes, but mainly because the rest of the compitition was so far off where they should be or needed to be. She ran her course and then other women caught on to what they needed to be doing and came and destroyed her shortly after. It happens everywhere.
kage173 wrote:
I don't agree with you bro. I don't think it's anything new. Every rider that has turned pro for the last 20 years (and probably further...
I don't agree with you bro. I don't think it's anything new. Every rider that has turned pro for the last 20 years (and probably further than that) has been racing since they were 5 years old. And they all have traveled and trained very seriously since that time.
King KTM wrote:
McGrath did not start riding until about 14.
I don't think Malcolm Stewart started racing until he was about 14. Sometimes a late start can be a good thing.
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SKIDLID 3/31/2018 9:40am
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Is it possible today for the young kids to be fast on their 2 strokes and struggle for speed on the 4 strokes and vice versa a young rider adapt to fours better? The technical aspect of riding a four seems easier to me. I believe had four strokes not come SJ7 would own all the records as he seemed much
more technical than others. Just as an average mini rider could become the next big thing once they mature in size and move to a easier to ride 4 stroke?
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Park Boys 3/31/2018 10:31am
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TDeath21 wrote:
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes...
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes for great, close, unpredictable racing, but it’s certainly lacking with regards to the all time great department. Just look at each rider you think might be that guy and they have huge holes in their game that prevent them from greatness. Good not great is this era, and I don’t see anyone else coming up that is going to be at that level either. Like I said though, it makes for great unpredictable racing.
Depends on what you clarify by all time great. I assume you would say Reed is a great but Roczens Outdoor stats put his to shame by the time he was 22. We don't have any SX greats right now. Outdoors there is 1 arguably 2. Roczen already had 3 outdoor titles by the time he was 22 including two 450 titles and if Tomac wins again this year he is all time as well.
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TDeath21 3/31/2018 11:00am
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TDeath21 wrote:
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes...
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes for great, close, unpredictable racing, but it’s certainly lacking with regards to the all time great department. Just look at each rider you think might be that guy and they have huge holes in their game that prevent them from greatness. Good not great is this era, and I don’t see anyone else coming up that is going to be at that level either. Like I said though, it makes for great unpredictable racing.
Park Boys wrote:
Depends on what you clarify by all time great. I assume you would say Reed is a great but Roczens Outdoor stats put his to shame...
Depends on what you clarify by all time great. I assume you would say Reed is a great but Roczens Outdoor stats put his to shame by the time he was 22. We don't have any SX greats right now. Outdoors there is 1 arguably 2. Roczen already had 3 outdoor titles by the time he was 22 including two 450 titles and if Tomac wins again this year he is all time as well.
I agree Roczen would be if it weren’t for SX and all the injuries suffered because of it.

But you aren’t all time great because you win a championship or two. As I said, it’s an extremely weak field right now and someone has to win it. Look at how Eli won last year. Everyone just tried to hand the championship to everyone else and Eli happened to come out on top with a dismal point total. I bet Roczen is wishing he’d have stayed in the GPs because SX has completely ruined his career thus far.
GoggleFiend904 3/31/2018 3:29pm
3/31/2018 3:29pm
I'd like to see Mumford, Ryder d, and Jett Reynolds do well. Oh and hunter yoder.. only because he started a gate behind me on a 65, and passed me both motos. (I was on a 250sx lol)
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JUSTIN COOPER.
jorgechavez 3/31/2018 5:44pm
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TDeath21 wrote:
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes...
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes for great, close, unpredictable racing, but it’s certainly lacking with regards to the all time great department. Just look at each rider you think might be that guy and they have huge holes in their game that prevent them from greatness. Good not great is this era, and I don’t see anyone else coming up that is going to be at that level either. Like I said though, it makes for great unpredictable racing.
Park Boys wrote:
Depends on what you clarify by all time great. I assume you would say Reed is a great but Roczens Outdoor stats put his to shame...
Depends on what you clarify by all time great. I assume you would say Reed is a great but Roczens Outdoor stats put his to shame by the time he was 22. We don't have any SX greats right now. Outdoors there is 1 arguably 2. Roczen already had 3 outdoor titles by the time he was 22 including two 450 titles and if Tomac wins again this year he is all time as well.
TDeath21 wrote:
I agree Roczen would be if it weren’t for SX and all the injuries suffered because of it. But you aren’t all time great because you...
I agree Roczen would be if it weren’t for SX and all the injuries suffered because of it.

But you aren’t all time great because you win a championship or two. As I said, it’s an extremely weak field right now and someone has to win it. Look at how Eli won last year. Everyone just tried to hand the championship to everyone else and Eli happened to come out on top with a dismal point total. I bet Roczen is wishing he’d have stayed in the GPs because SX has completely ruined his career thus far.
I disagree with your statement that it's an extremely weak field, with the injuries yes it is somewhat weak but I'd say the amount of competition at the very top is comparable to almost any other year. Personally I'd say Roczen, Musquin, Anderson, Tomac and Barcia could all win any race any where no matter who the competition. They've all proven this to be true, maybe except for Barcia.

I think it's actually quite the opposite of what you said and I believe that's why we've seen so many mistakes from all those guys I listed, besides Anderson.
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Ty master pool hands down
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Forty wrote:
Forkner is ginna find his stride and take a Honda to its first 450 SX championship since RC.
Personally, I think Austin Forkner and AC are going to take over the 450 class when they move up.
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MotoMo165 3/31/2018 7:45pm
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Forty wrote:
Forkner is ginna find his stride and take a Honda to its first 450 SX championship since RC.
Racer111 wrote:
Personally, I think Austin Forkner and AC are going to take over the 450 class when they move up.
If they both stay injury free their rookie year, possibly, but Tomac, roczen, Anderson, Webb, Barcia will still be believing they can win races. 450 class will bestacked in the next 2 years.
SlowOldGuy 3/31/2018 10:50pm
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TDeath21 wrote:
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes...
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes for great, close, unpredictable racing, but it’s certainly lacking with regards to the all time great department. Just look at each rider you think might be that guy and they have huge holes in their game that prevent them from greatness. Good not great is this era, and I don’t see anyone else coming up that is going to be at that level either. Like I said though, it makes for great unpredictable racing.
Tell me where the holes are in Jett Reynolds results to date?

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SlowOldGuy 3/31/2018 10:55pm
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JB 19 wrote:
I don't think Malcolm Stewart started racing until he was about 14. Sometimes a late start can be a good thing.
Malcolm raced Lorettas in 99 when he was 6 and just about every year after that till he turned pro.
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Kyle_McNab 4/1/2018 9:32am
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I’ve thought ty master pool has a lot of potential. His corner speed is insane. But same with Reynolds and Ryder d
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Jacob_Deer 4/1/2018 3:44pm
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devindavisphoto wrote:
Back to what I said about mixing up potential pros and potential “next big thing” riders.
Alright well phenoms in amateurs don’t always make the next Stewart’s and Carmichael’s. A lot of times consistent top 10 amateur national riders do really well in the pros compared to the kid winning every race. 1 example AC92.
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FLmxer 4/1/2018 4:46pm
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I think Jett has the rest covered slightly as far as almost all the races i have seen especially supercross like tracks. Even if he gets a bad start he doesnt panic and comes through the pack easily to the front usually. He has great style too like a little Windham.
Super impressed with Ryder, Deegan, Volhand and a few others and these kids have all the tools to go far.
Kx125rider 4/1/2018 5:20pm
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Ty Masterpool is a ripper, kinda reminds me of tomac. Ryder D will be up there in the future too. I think Crockett Meyers is fast too?
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Nighttrain 4/1/2018 5:43pm
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Aside from Herlings which “Next Big Thing” has delivered in the last 2 generations? Hunter Lawrence is my pick if there will be another one any time soon.
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dc444 4/1/2018 7:39pm
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Matt LeBlanc!
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Trudare69 4/1/2018 7:48pm
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Next big thing may be an am that hasn't been dominant, look at RV.....
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jbrown15 4/2/2018 12:06am
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Doddy wrote:
Carson Brown
Carson isn't an amateur anymore so I don't really think he falls into the "next big thing" category. Although I am a big fan of his and enjoyed watching him win an AX title up in Canada this year.
whateversclever69 4/2/2018 1:47am
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TDeath21 wrote:
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes...
Without question we are in an era for the first time in a long time that we have no all time greats out there. It makes for great, close, unpredictable racing, but it’s certainly lacking with regards to the all time great department. Just look at each rider you think might be that guy and they have huge holes in their game that prevent them from greatness. Good not great is this era, and I don’t see anyone else coming up that is going to be at that level either. Like I said though, it makes for great unpredictable racing.
SlowOldGuy wrote:
Tell me where the holes are in Jett Reynolds results to date?
The “holes in their game” that he’s referring to are at the pro level. This thread has a lot of talk about amateurs but initial discussion is about the next big thing at the current professional level.
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moto#52 4/2/2018 2:52am
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Why does everyone ass lick cianciarulo? He’s been in the 250 class a few years now, I know he’s had a few injuries but how many Main event wins does he even have and you think he’s going to ‘take over’ the 450 class?

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