Bring Herlings to US full time!

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vschaik141 3/26/2018 8:27am
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Beeby wrote:
After the events of Ironman I don’t see many US riders supporting the campaign to bring Herlings over full time or many of them wanting to...
After the events of Ironman I don’t see many US riders supporting the campaign to bring Herlings over full time or many of them wanting to go race him in his own back yard.
weekend of the 4th and 5th of august ama motocross series has no race scheduled.
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FWYT 3/26/2018 8:31am
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mx317 wrote:
I'm "Merica" all the way, but I would rather win a world championship than a national one if money is similar.
ML512 wrote:
His potential income in the US is still higher than GPs but he does really good in that department as it is.
Would that be SX and the Nationals? Or just the Nationals? (Can't see him doing SX)
crusty_xx 3/26/2018 8:31am
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Beeby wrote:
After the events of Ironman I don’t see many US riders supporting the campaign to bring Herlings over full time or many of them wanting to...
After the events of Ironman I don’t see many US riders supporting the campaign to bring Herlings over full time or many of them wanting to go race him in his own back yard.
vschaik141 wrote:
weekend of the 4th and 5th of august ama motocross series has no race scheduled.
If ANY US based rider does that, I'll be a fan instantly. No matter who it is and how he does Whistling
(And it matters who has me as a fan)
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tcallahan707 3/26/2018 8:41am
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I like the title of this thread. It's almost as if Mr. Herlings is just a character in our own little puppet show to be passed around for amusement. I think sometimes we forget that these riders are just normal people with friends/family/life just like the rest of us. I think we also forget that the US isn't everyone's dream. The egos can be strong sometimes....

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mx317 wrote:
I'm "Merica" all the way, but I would rather win a world championship than a national one if money is similar.
ML512 wrote:
His potential income in the US is still higher than GPs but he does really good in that department as it is.
FWYT wrote:
Would that be SX and the Nationals? Or just the Nationals? (Can't see him doing SX)
SX and Nationals; mostly stemming from increased bonus possibilities (more top paying races and two championships to chase) and higher paying gear deals. US series guys are still more sought after for gear deals and A-Stars pays at least three motocross guys more than him due to their marketability world wide.

His salary however to just go racing seems to be on par with the top two or three guys here, so no gains there.
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TDeath21 3/26/2018 8:46am
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I just want some sort of system where we see all the best in the world going head to head for championship points and race bonuses. Even 4 races per year would make me happy. Herlings and Villopoto competed against each other one time ever. Roczen and Cairoli have competed against each other only 4 times ever (I think) and only once on equal equipment (I think). It’s a shame. It’s a fatal flaw of soccer and a contributing factor to boxing’s demise. Every sport needs a way to ensure the best consistently compete against each other. We don’t. It needs to change.
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PRM31 3/26/2018 9:04am
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Like the East/West challenge, I'd like to see a few rounds of MXGP/Nationals combined. Maybe two in Europe and two in US. Fans get to see them race together and sponsors broaden the audience to their riders.
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PRM31 wrote:
Like the East/West challenge, I'd like to see a few rounds of MXGP/Nationals combined. Maybe two in Europe and two in US. Fans get to see...
Like the East/West challenge, I'd like to see a few rounds of MXGP/Nationals combined. Maybe two in Europe and two in US. Fans get to see them race together and sponsors broaden the audience to their riders.
Absolutely this.

I'd look forward to combined events like these about as much as the MXdN. Maybe at least one overseas and one in the U.S. Not at the end of the year, either - so that we don't miss too many guys due to attrition and nobody is on cruise control to lock up their championship.
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scootch 3/26/2018 9:45am
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ob wrote:
Why would he want to come to the US?
tkimb wrote:
That would be the real question. What would be better about the US than what he has in the GPs
PRM31 wrote:
Nothing that I can see.


At this point, I'd rather see Tomac and Anderson go to MXGPs.
This.

Could you imagine... Our top guys begin moving over to MXGP to race a single series with a more relaxed schedule and no risk of the big injuries we've been seeing in SX
RichardLoots 3/26/2018 10:16am
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i would love to see Tomac and Andersson racing MXGP , Barcia would fit in too ... sounds more exciting as seeing Herlings racing SX with whoops Shocked
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Shaned9326 3/26/2018 10:18am
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tkimb wrote:
That would be the real question. What would be better about the US than what he has in the GPs
PRM31 wrote:
Nothing that I can see.


At this point, I'd rather see Tomac and Anderson go to MXGPs.
scootch wrote:
This. Could you imagine... Our top guys begin moving over to MXGP to race a single series with a more relaxed schedule and no risk of...
This.

Could you imagine... Our top guys begin moving over to MXGP to race a single series with a more relaxed schedule and no risk of the big injuries we've been seeing in SX
Seems like tomac would be one of very few that could possibly go over there and make things interesting as being in a full on championship season with Herlings.cairoli and some of the other top pilots would definitely cause him to step his game up and the way I see it supercross is his downfall as he always seems to wreck, have bike issue or something that messes up the whole season not to mention he’s a natural outdoor rider and seems to have more passion for it as well!! Those guys are flat out hauling ass right now and Herlings is faster right now than he was at Ironman last year so our guys need to step up our game big time or could be long day at red budd!!
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keinz 3/26/2018 10:43am
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Maybe he has seen how Roczen's career has gone so far
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Prejump 3/26/2018 1:13pm
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Many of you guys are already hitting the nail on the head with this one. It amazes me though how the OP can be so blinded as to ask why one the best all round MX riders in the world would want to leave a World Champs to ride a national outdoor series, in which he already took the piss out of on a borrowed bike first try.

The OP comments highlight just how out of touch some US fans are with World MX

The fact is not everyone wants to sell their soul to race Supercross. Not everyone considers an AMA title more prestigious then a World title.

What should be happening is the fastest riders from each country compete in a World Championship. ET, JA & probably a few others have every chance of bring a world title to USA. That's what the OP should be thinking, lets see the best race. Not trying to poach one of the fastest GP riders to race a couple of fast national riders in there own back yard.

Time for USA to step up IMO.
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CoccoBill 3/26/2018 1:20pm
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Take deathcross out of the equation and Herlings woud have been there already.
Maybe.
St Ann More 3/26/2018 1:21pm
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ob wrote:
Why would he want to come to the US?
tkimb wrote:
That would be the real question. What would be better about the US than what he has in the GPs
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Prejump wrote:
Many of you guys are already hitting the nail on the head with this one. It amazes me though how the OP can be so blinded...
Many of you guys are already hitting the nail on the head with this one. It amazes me though how the OP can be so blinded as to ask why one the best all round MX riders in the world would want to leave a World Champs to ride a national outdoor series, in which he already took the piss out of on a borrowed bike first try.

The OP comments highlight just how out of touch some US fans are with World MX

The fact is not everyone wants to sell their soul to race Supercross. Not everyone considers an AMA title more prestigious then a World title.

What should be happening is the fastest riders from each country compete in a World Championship. ET, JA & probably a few others have every chance of bring a world title to USA. That's what the OP should be thinking, lets see the best race. Not trying to poach one of the fastest GP riders to race a couple of fast national riders in there own back yard.

Time for USA to step up IMO.
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Beeby 3/26/2018 4:37pm
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I just don’t think it’s easy to grow up with US style tracks and go over and tackle the sand tracks of Europe.
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Herrings' sandbagging days are over. No way he'd head Stateside to ride the inferior competition

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Dropbear 3/26/2018 5:53pm
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Maybe because he is racing in the WORLD Championship.
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The MXGP structure allows for a longer career.

Even though Supercross is a great for viewers it really takes it toll on the riders. Look at how many riders are injured this year alone.

To be honest I am enjoying the MXGP's more than the supercross. Villopoto went over the Europe and didn't replicate the results he got in the US. Not saying that he was slower but adapting to the weather, food and so on just take its toll on you.

Anyway, if I were Herlings I would stay where I am. Great Racing, World Titles and more time off during the year.
Aussie_power_sports 3/26/2018 6:59pm
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ML512 wrote:
His potential income in the US is still higher than GPs but he does really good in that department as it is.
But what about realistic income of just outdoors vs GP's. I dont see any team just paying him for outdoors in the USA.
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ML512 3/26/2018 7:10pm
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But what about realistic income of just outdoors vs GP's. I dont see any team just paying him for outdoors in the USA.
That contract isn't realistic in the first place, imo.
Aussie_power_sports 3/26/2018 7:15pm
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ML512 wrote:
That contract isn't realistic in the first place, imo.
Yeah thats what I meant. I dont feel like herlings would attempt sx at this stage of his career and no team would pay him his worth to race outdoors only.
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Winning in the gp's vs. Getting his ass handed to him in the nationals. It's a widely known fact our guys weren't running their "A" game when he came here last year and he barely won. Put him at the first race where everyone's still trying and he's a 5-10 place rider. America is pinned from the drop of the gate, the gp's don't start hauling until lap five or so. Add the huge jumps we have and he's out of his league. Sorry, just stating some facts . Full disclosure, I own 1-12th of a team- I hear things.
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Shaned9326 3/26/2018 9:32pm
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After last summer at Ironman I’m sure Herlings be like now y’all come race one of our tracks!! ????
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B DUB 333 wrote:
Winning in the gp's vs. Getting his ass handed to him in the nationals. It's a widely known fact our guys weren't running their "A" game...
Winning in the gp's vs. Getting his ass handed to him in the nationals. It's a widely known fact our guys weren't running their "A" game when he came here last year and he barely won. Put him at the first race where everyone's still trying and he's a 5-10 place rider. America is pinned from the drop of the gate, the gp's don't start hauling until lap five or so. Add the huge jumps we have and he's out of his league. Sorry, just stating some facts . Full disclosure, I own 1-12th of a team- I hear things.
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DeStouwer 3/26/2018 11:13pm
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Beeby wrote:
After the events of Ironman I don’t see many US riders supporting the campaign to bring Herlings over full time or many of them wanting to...
After the events of Ironman I don’t see many US riders supporting the campaign to bring Herlings over full time or many of them wanting to go race him in his own back yard.
vschaik141 wrote:
weekend of the 4th and 5th of august ama motocross series has no race scheduled.
crusty_xx wrote:
If ANY US based rider does that, I'll be a fan instantly. No matter who it is and how he does :whistle: (And it matters who...
If ANY US based rider does that, I'll be a fan instantly. No matter who it is and how he does Whistling
(And it matters who has me as a fan)
I doubt any AMA-rider would come over to Europe on a free weekend to race the GP of Lommel.
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RichardLoots wrote:
i would love to see Tomac and Andersson racing MXGP , Barcia would fit in too ... sounds more exciting as seeing Herlings racing SX with...
i would love to see Tomac and Andersson racing MXGP , Barcia would fit in too ... sounds more exciting as seeing Herlings racing SX with whoops Shocked
I'm an American through and through Richard.....but God damn it , I couldn't agree more. We put to much emphasis on the stupid indoor racing , and only race outdoors......12 freakin' days a year!!

No wonder were falling behind. In another 10 years we'll have our guys battling China for 13th in the B final at MXoN's!!

Gutted!!
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jeffro503 3/26/2018 11:44pm
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B DUB 333 wrote:
Winning in the gp's vs. Getting his ass handed to him in the nationals. It's a widely known fact our guys weren't running their "A" game...
Winning in the gp's vs. Getting his ass handed to him in the nationals. It's a widely known fact our guys weren't running their "A" game when he came here last year and he barely won. Put him at the first race where everyone's still trying and he's a 5-10 place rider. America is pinned from the drop of the gate, the gp's don't start hauling until lap five or so. Add the huge jumps we have and he's out of his league. Sorry, just stating some facts . Full disclosure, I own 1-12th of a team- I hear things.
Dude seriously....?? I don't know if you actually believe what you just typed. But if you do , you fall in the line of what some in this thread call " Clueless " .......in your own little world , which by the way , ain't true.
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Shaned9326 3/26/2018 11:46pm
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If you think that Herlings couldn’t come over here right this minute and not win our national series in first year you are 100 percent wrong and I would bet the farm on it he will individually Win his class at red budd in des nations!! I love USA mx but right now it’s not even close compared to the euros and we just keep on ramping up supercross more and more and losing some of our outdoor skills every year compared to them!! Ask tomac himself about their speed as he stated last year and say what you want about iron man and everybody taking it easy or whatever but the man came over here on borrowed bike; one day riding it; on one of our so called rough tracks and mopped the floor with 39 of our pro riders period!! They ride tracks 100 times rougher than our groomed every race tracks and Herlings was talking about how much he loved it and it clearly showed!,

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