Dealership pet peeves...

kkawboy14
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10/25/2017 3:39am
Moparmotel wrote:
Giving you the bullshit line of we can’t go lower than 11,500 or we will be loosing money, even though your friend just bought the same...
Giving you the bullshit line of we can’t go lower than 11,500 or we will be loosing money, even though your friend just bought the same bike for $10,000.
305FC250 wrote:
This has got to be the number one. I hate when they tell me they "can't" do any better on pricing when I know for a...
This has got to be the number one. I hate when they tell me they "can't" do any better on pricing when I know for a fact they can. I also hate being spoken to as if they think they can just bullshit their way to a sale with me because they are for some reason making the assumption I don't know how dealers and vehicle purchases work.

Never having any parts in stock is also annoying. God forbid I need something basic (like a clutch lever) last minute I can't count on anyone to have it in stock.

And the "discount" giving parts guys are also a bit silly... "So I hooked you up with this sweet discount now the part is only $50 too expensive instead of $65." Though for my Husky I do have a guy that I go to which has helped me out a lot and always gets really close to online pricing. So there are exceptions.
If a dealer lets you walk out the door with rejecting your offer, it’s the best they can do.

Some dealerships do have higher costs than others and also may advertise 1 cheap bike and try to get more people in the doors.
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10/25/2017 3:52am
Dealer website puts a GET PRICE button for a bike rather than putting their price or even the MSRP.
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10/25/2017 4:01am
Dealers have to put the fork stickers on?
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10/25/2017 4:40am
People on this page are the reason dealerships are dying, how about any time a douchebag comes in showing me motosport.com prices that are 14 cents above dealer cost cause motosport bought 30,000 units to get a big discount and then says we are robbing them. And people are stupid enough to then say it's so sad when a dealership goes out of business. Or when we have something and people have me get it for them, try it on, help with sizing and buy it on btosports for $3.78 less

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10/25/2017 5:16am
I have already weeded out all the Shitty dealerships in my area I know who is good and who isn't. I educate myself on what I want, I don't "really" need them to help me with product. I shop online prices and as long as I am close in price I am good with that because they take care of me if I need to borrow a tool or want to look at a manual, Oh and a case of beer and few Pizzas doesn't hurt my service eitherSmile
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10/25/2017 5:20am
I don't like the huge shops. The shop in my town sold out to a large dealership 30 miles away and I don't even like going in there. Like a bunch of vultures waiting at the door for you with 40-50 side by sides on the floor you have to walk by to even get to the parts department. I think one of the big reasons people shop online is their computer doesn't feed them a line of bullshit when you just need some tearoffs.
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10/25/2017 5:24am
BS12 wrote:
Holllyyy shittt there's some whining and complaining in here. Being closed on a Sunday? When do they get to go ride and spend time with their...
Holllyyy shittt there's some whining and complaining in here.

Being closed on a Sunday? When do they get to go ride and spend time with their families?

Not having every single part for every single bike/product on the shelf? How many 100's of thousands of dollars of stale, slow moving inventory do you guys expect dealers to keep in stock at all times?

The recurring theme I'm reading here is that everyone expects everything cheaper and cheaper, available yesterday, and if not, its not good enough and the dealer is bad mouthed.

Yes, I'm sure there are some dodgy dealers around, as well as some under educated staff employed, but to start a topic complaining about all your dealer pet peeves? Come on now. What about customer pet peeves from a dealership perspective? I'll bet the list is just as long.
BS12 and and Cygrace74, from the other side........ What about customer pet peeves from a dealership perspective?

….. Can you match the Bike Bandit, Motorcycle Superstore price?
…… How much to install this tire I bought online?
………. Not bringing the bike in until you’ve already stripped the bolts trying to fix it yourself.
…………..Not telling me what you recently changed, that may have caused the current issue?
………….Bringing in a dirty bike to be repaired.
…………..Arriving 2 minutes before closing time.
………Using our store to get sizes for boots, helmets, gloves, and openly bragging you are buying online.
……….. Telling us how good a racer you are, or your kid is, and you should get free bikes.
……… Calling to ask our mechanics what might be wrong with the bike you are working on.
...... Always calling and asking to talk to the owner.

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My pet peeve since I just bought a new bike is "dealer freight and setup" or prep fees. The cheapest new bikes on cycletrader are the ones that will also have prep fees added. Im sorry but it shouldnt cost them $800 to pay their $12/hr mechanic to put the front wheel on my new KTM.

Most of the dealers I called did not charge the fee. And one of those got my business. Even paying taxes in my own state, it was cheaper than buying my bike from one of the other out of state dealers that wanted to charge the prep fees. Yeah no thanks. Thats their way of padding their profit when they whore them out on cycletrader.
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10/25/2017 5:49am
Vet Rider wrote:
My pet peeve since I just bought a new bike is "dealer freight and setup" or prep fees. The cheapest new bikes on cycletrader are the...
My pet peeve since I just bought a new bike is "dealer freight and setup" or prep fees. The cheapest new bikes on cycletrader are the ones that will also have prep fees added. Im sorry but it shouldnt cost them $800 to pay their $12/hr mechanic to put the front wheel on my new KTM.

Most of the dealers I called did not charge the fee. And one of those got my business. Even paying taxes in my own state, it was cheaper than buying my bike from one of the other out of state dealers that wanted to charge the prep fees. Yeah no thanks. Thats their way of padding their profit when they whore them out on cycletrader.
It’s a business. I’m not sure the margins on dirt bike, maybe a dealer can jump in , but they have to turn on the lights and pay people , hold inventory, pay rent, taxes etc and when someone cuts them to the bone on a bike and set up costs they have no way to make the nut. Don’t get me wrong, when I bought new bikes I shopped for the best price as it makes good sense but the dealer has to profit or they go away. I stopped buying new awhile back as the best deals are on used now. Just find your local guy that has to have the latest and greatest and buys new every year. He will keep dealers opened and supply you with a great 1 year old bike loaded with aftermarket bits at a deep discount every year.
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10/25/2017 5:50am
Before I started working in a dealership I was very oblivious to what goes on, from purchasing bikes from the manufacture to being able to keep parts in stock. I have been at the dealership that I am currently at for about a year and a half. This dealer just opened up about 2.5 years ago so as you can imagine we have no where near the inventory (parts) as other dealers. Basically I have the task of targeting what sells around here and slowly order things accordingly. We didnt really do a whole lot of Moto stuff before I started but I am slowly turning that around. Im a one man show here from being the Parts manager, Service manager, parts counter guy, service writer, guy who orders all the parts, to checking them in and calling the customer. Its tough to have everything and it kills me that I cant stock Expensive helmets, boots and other cool things because they would just sit there and collect dust due to the area. I struggle on a daily basis trying to sell hundred dollar helmets. But I try and keep everything for the modern moto bike regardless of brand. We sell honda and yamaha and yet I have levers, oil filters, air filters, clutch cables, throttle cables, wheel bearings and sprockets for all the other brands. Its tough to have everything but the nice part is I truly can have parts from honda and yamaha in 2 days without the customer having to pay shipping. Also here I dont jack up prices from msrp on parts. Most of the time I match online prices especially if theyre moto guys!
10/25/2017 6:12am
RonSkj wrote:
"We can order that for you"
mattyhamz2 wrote:
This too!! Oh and another one I almost forgot... call the dealer up and give the parts guy the oem part number that you need, they...
This too!!

Oh and another one I almost forgot... call the dealer up and give the parts guy the oem part number that you need, they look it up and tell you sorry we don’t have it. Call back ten minutes later, ask the guy for the same part but without a part number and bam they have it. Go to pick it up and see the part number you gave them plastered across the bag that the part came in. Had this happen way too many times.
mingham97 wrote:
Why would they not accept a part number you gave them? Not having a dig just not sure what you're getting at
The would accept the part number but would get back on the phone and tell me they didn’t have it, so I would hang up and call back a few minutes later and tell them what I was looking for and for what bike amd somehow they would magically find it. I’d get there and it had the part number on it that I originally tried giving to them. It was really frustrating
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10/25/2017 6:19am
Local dealer's parts guys that don't know anything unless it's in the computer!

I've gone into a Local dealer & asked for 2 NGK B8ES plugs & the kid behind the counter asks "which bike is that for so I can look it up in the computer" I just pointed to the NGK display behind Him & ask again for the plug!

Happens in the Auto parts supply too!

Went to the get the same NGK B8ES for my 490 Maico & ask the guy behind the counter for the plug & he asked what car it was for & I told him it was for a dirt bike & he said " We don't sell bike parts" the other guy behind the counter said What bike & I told him, he told the unknowing counter guy Datsun B210 & handed me the plugs!
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10/25/2017 6:27am
Setup fees, I worked for a KTM dealership until the owner passed away so I know KTM pays the setup fees to to dealer he never passed that on to the customer. I recently bought a KTM was charge a setup fee of 400 so the dealer is being paid $800 to put the handlebars foot pegs and front fender on the bike, they pay some kid $10 to do this and it only takes an hour.
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10/25/2017 6:28am
Nobody goes to McDonald and when purchasing a hamburger would agree to pay extra for the sauce and destination fee
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10/25/2017 6:30am
I always set a price in my mind of what I am going to spend. I put all the parts I need in my shopping cart on line and then eliminate to that price I set. I feel like a dick when I go into a dealership and say I need all this stuff, they get it all from the back, ring it in and then I start eliminating. I feel like the asshole. Mostly I have found that dealerships (if they know you) give you close to online pricing. But I always find myself shopping online for everything for this reason.
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10/25/2017 6:35am
Forty wrote:
It’s a business. I’m not sure the margins on dirt bike, maybe a dealer can jump in , but they have to turn on the lights...
It’s a business. I’m not sure the margins on dirt bike, maybe a dealer can jump in , but they have to turn on the lights and pay people , hold inventory, pay rent, taxes etc and when someone cuts them to the bone on a bike and set up costs they have no way to make the nut. Don’t get me wrong, when I bought new bikes I shopped for the best price as it makes good sense but the dealer has to profit or they go away. I stopped buying new awhile back as the best deals are on used now. Just find your local guy that has to have the latest and greatest and buys new every year. He will keep dealers opened and supply you with a great 1 year old bike loaded with aftermarket bits at a deep discount every year.
Margins are very slim on motocross bikes. But those margins are from cost to MSRP. I have yet to sell a motocross bike at MSRP. At my dealer its cut and dry- Bike price + tax. No prep or freight fees. Motocross bikes at our dealer most certainly don't keep the lights on. Sxs and boats help us do that.
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10/25/2017 6:57am
GangGreen wrote:
BS12 and and Cygrace74, from the other side........ What about customer pet peeves from a dealership perspective? [b]….. Can you match the Bike Bandit, Motorcycle Superstore...
BS12 and and Cygrace74, from the other side........ What about customer pet peeves from a dealership perspective?

….. Can you match the Bike Bandit, Motorcycle Superstore price?
…… How much to install this tire I bought online?
………. Not bringing the bike in until you’ve already stripped the bolts trying to fix it yourself.
…………..Not telling me what you recently changed, that may have caused the current issue?
………….Bringing in a dirty bike to be repaired.
…………..Arriving 2 minutes before closing time.
………Using our store to get sizes for boots, helmets, gloves, and openly bragging you are buying online.
……….. Telling us how good a racer you are, or your kid is, and you should get free bikes.
……… Calling to ask our mechanics what might be wrong with the bike you are working on.
...... Always calling and asking to talk to the owner.

….. Can you match the Bike Bandit, Motorcycle Superstore price?
You can or Can't. Say yes or no.

…… How much to install this tire I bought online?
You should have a flat labor rate for changing a tire. Regardless of where it comes from.

………. Not bringing the bike in until you’ve already stripped the bolts trying to fix it yourself.
Time is money, this cost should be passed to the customers.

…………..Not telling me what you recently changed, that may have caused the current issue?
That has to be expected. Some jobs have worst case situations. Some people don't have a clue, thats part of the reason the bike is in your hands in the first place.

………….Bringing in a dirty bike to be repaired.
Again, time is money, cleaning fee would apply.

…………..Arriving 2 minutes before closing time.
Sorry bud, come back tomorrow.

………Using our store to get sizes for boots, helmets, gloves, and openly bragging you are buying online.
This is a hard one to turn around, Im sure it sucks.

……….. Telling us how good a racer you are, or your kid is, and you should get free bikes.
Response: "nothing is free, be glad to help, but our race team and rider support has limited spots, submit your resume and riding video and we would be glad to review and consider your son/ yourself this/next season."

……… Calling to ask our mechanics what might be wrong with the bike you are working on.
Mechanics should only talk to customers bikes that are in house that are being serviced. Or at least limit the conversation if its that big of a deal.

...... Always calling and asking to talk to the owner.
Whats your number, I need to talk to you about this post? Laughing

I worked in a high end bicycle shop for 12 years. I know your pain, but having polices in place matched with detailed service charges can curve a lot of wasted time. The customer isn't always right, thats not being a asshole, its just the truth. Now I've always treated people the way I would expect to be treated.
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10/25/2017 7:02am
BS12 wrote:
Holllyyy shittt there's some whining and complaining in here. Being closed on a Sunday? When do they get to go ride and spend time with their...
Holllyyy shittt there's some whining and complaining in here.

Being closed on a Sunday? When do they get to go ride and spend time with their families?

Not having every single part for every single bike/product on the shelf? How many 100's of thousands of dollars of stale, slow moving inventory do you guys expect dealers to keep in stock at all times?

The recurring theme I'm reading here is that everyone expects everything cheaper and cheaper, available yesterday, and if not, its not good enough and the dealer is bad mouthed.

Yes, I'm sure there are some dodgy dealers around, as well as some under educated staff employed, but to start a topic complaining about all your dealer pet peeves? Come on now. What about customer pet peeves from a dealership perspective? I'll bet the list is just as long.
"All pet peeves"???

No. This thread wasnt started for that. It was started to list the pet peeves that could EASILY be avoided. IE: brake lines improperly routed

The majority of people posting in this thread are indeed bringing up issues that could be easily avoided.

I see a lot of constructive criticism here.

And just a FYI, dealership owners dont care about employee time with families or ride time. Most floor salesman neither ride and are too young to have families. Being closed on Sun/Mon is related to those days being notoriously slow for business.
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10/25/2017 7:04am
When the FBI comes in and arrested the owner for possession of child rape porn? Yea thats a new low in the buying experince for me. Excuse me while I go shower.
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10/25/2017 7:04am
BS12 wrote:
Holllyyy shittt there's some whining and complaining in here. Being closed on a Sunday? When do they get to go ride and spend time with their...
Holllyyy shittt there's some whining and complaining in here.

Being closed on a Sunday? When do they get to go ride and spend time with their families?

Not having every single part for every single bike/product on the shelf? How many 100's of thousands of dollars of stale, slow moving inventory do you guys expect dealers to keep in stock at all times?

The recurring theme I'm reading here is that everyone expects everything cheaper and cheaper, available yesterday, and if not, its not good enough and the dealer is bad mouthed.

Yes, I'm sure there are some dodgy dealers around, as well as some under educated staff employed, but to start a topic complaining about all your dealer pet peeves? Come on now. What about customer pet peeves from a dealership perspective? I'll bet the list is just as long.
Exactly what I was thinking! Bummer huh, having to call up first thing Tuesday morning to get parts sorted for next weekend! I bet that's the...
Exactly what I was thinking!

Bummer huh, having to call up first thing Tuesday morning to get parts sorted for next weekend! I bet that's the guy who wants to walk in to the dealership at 5pm on Friday and expects everything he needs to be on the shelf!

You have to understand that with internet driving prices down there isn't the profit to pay super intelligent staff at the dealership!
You pay peanuts, you get monkeys..

I wonder if you could have a super-dealer, that had every conceivable part in stock, next day delivery, intelligent and excellent staff who never messed up, got everything right first time, no feasible excuse to complain because this dealership is PERFECT!
But.... prices were 50% higher than the 'regular' prices...

Would you buy there?
It's gonna cost 50% more jist to have fork stickers not put on upside down?

Sheesh the bar is set low.
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10/25/2017 7:07am
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I hate when a dealer won’t give me an otd price. Always tell you that thy need you to come in. No dude, give me an...
I hate when a dealer won’t give me an otd price. Always tell you that thy need you to come in. No dude, give me an otd price and I will come in, buy a bike and get some stuff for the new bike! Very few dealers around me will give an otd price. I’m not wasting my time driving an hour to your dealership to find out I’ll get a better price somewhere else
Rdubs19 wrote:
Former car salesman checking in.... I understand the frustration, BUT the odds are much, much, higher that you will purchase from that salesman if he gets...
Former car salesman checking in....
I understand the frustration, BUT the odds are much, much, higher that you will purchase from that salesman if he gets you in the door. If he just tells you the price over the phone, it's extremely unlikely he'll ever hear from you again.
100% this.

It's a statistics issue. For every 1 guy that honestly is trying to fish/buy over the phone there are 1000+ that would never lead to a sale if you dont get them in the door.

Foot traffic is critical to any type of dealership. That's just the sales game.
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10/25/2017 7:14am
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I hate when a dealer won’t give me an otd price. Always tell you that thy need you to come in. No dude, give me an...
I hate when a dealer won’t give me an otd price. Always tell you that thy need you to come in. No dude, give me an otd price and I will come in, buy a bike and get some stuff for the new bike! Very few dealers around me will give an otd price. I’m not wasting my time driving an hour to your dealership to find out I’ll get a better price somewhere else
I went thru this 8 months ago as well. Irritated me so much. And the one that was actually 15 min from my office got me to come in on lunch. He immediately asked for my DL and i said i am not here for you to run my credit or any of that, i wanted a price. He said would print up an invoice/reciept. During conversation while that was printing up, i told him i was going by another dealer 30 min away as well in the next few days. He came out with a printed up receipt that was sticker plus tax and registration, and over $1000 in other dealer fees. I said you couldn't tell me that over the phone? And you just wasted both of our time here. As i was walking out, the sales manager grabs me and said that they had just called the other dealer and gotten a price from them and they would give me the same price there is i was willing to sign. This absolutely infuriated me and i said i would never step foot in that place ever again and would be sure to spread the word locally. The other dealer gave me a better price and without even having to negotiate it.
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10/25/2017 7:29am
GangGreen wrote:
BS12 and and Cygrace74, from the other side........ What about customer pet peeves from a dealership perspective? [b]….. Can you match the Bike Bandit, Motorcycle Superstore...
BS12 and and Cygrace74, from the other side........ What about customer pet peeves from a dealership perspective?

….. Can you match the Bike Bandit, Motorcycle Superstore price?
…… How much to install this tire I bought online?
………. Not bringing the bike in until you’ve already stripped the bolts trying to fix it yourself.
…………..Not telling me what you recently changed, that may have caused the current issue?
………….Bringing in a dirty bike to be repaired.
…………..Arriving 2 minutes before closing time.
………Using our store to get sizes for boots, helmets, gloves, and openly bragging you are buying online.
……….. Telling us how good a racer you are, or your kid is, and you should get free bikes.
……… Calling to ask our mechanics what might be wrong with the bike you are working on.
...... Always calling and asking to talk to the owner.

Damnit GangGreen, that just hit the nail on the head and now I'm a little fired up. Every. Damn. Day lol

Playing devils advocate here but I'm in a non-commission sales position (Odd I know). I will get my ass thouroughly chewed out if something goes out the door too cheap. I wont hear one bit of criticism if the customer and I can't come to an agreement around MSRP.
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Parts/Accessories guys that act like they are at the top of the sport, probably about level with Roger DeCoster in terms of influence and knowledge/
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10/25/2017 9:18am
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I hate when a dealer won’t give me an otd price. Always tell you that thy need you to come in. No dude, give me an...
I hate when a dealer won’t give me an otd price. Always tell you that thy need you to come in. No dude, give me an otd price and I will come in, buy a bike and get some stuff for the new bike! Very few dealers around me will give an otd price. I’m not wasting my time driving an hour to your dealership to find out I’ll get a better price somewhere else
SURFGLOBE wrote:
I went thru this 8 months ago as well. Irritated me so much. And the one that was actually 15 min from my office got me...
I went thru this 8 months ago as well. Irritated me so much. And the one that was actually 15 min from my office got me to come in on lunch. He immediately asked for my DL and i said i am not here for you to run my credit or any of that, i wanted a price. He said would print up an invoice/reciept. During conversation while that was printing up, i told him i was going by another dealer 30 min away as well in the next few days. He came out with a printed up receipt that was sticker plus tax and registration, and over $1000 in other dealer fees. I said you couldn't tell me that over the phone? And you just wasted both of our time here. As i was walking out, the sales manager grabs me and said that they had just called the other dealer and gotten a price from them and they would give me the same price there is i was willing to sign. This absolutely infuriated me and i said i would never step foot in that place ever again and would be sure to spread the word locally. The other dealer gave me a better price and without even having to negotiate it.
I sold bikes for five years- the number one rule was don't do prices over the phone. Because people just call around and price it down and down. I think it's a car business thing.
But a racer buying a bike to race is entirely different than a 55 year-old guy buying a big decked out Goldwing. Putting freight and set-up on a racing bike is stupid. Keep in mind that racers are the last people a bike salesman wants to deal with, unless perhaps they are a racer themselves. Racers usually feel entitled to a big discount. In the dealerships I worked in, the salesmen actively avoided the mx bike section.
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10/25/2017 9:27am
RonSkj wrote:
"We can order that for you"
I hope you understand that every piece of inventory carried in the shop is an inventory expense that impacts overheads and ultimately profits. The shops have to pay for everything you see there out of their operating budget.

When I worked at a shop many years ago, we would allow customers to order parts without payment. We literally had shelves full of shit that customers ordered and then never picked up. So, you either have to try and sell that custom order out on the floor (long lead time) or return it to the OEM or distributor in exchange for account credit. It costs parts counter labor to process the exchange, costs for shipping material, and then the actual shipping charges to get it back to the source. So, yes, the shop was still losing money even on a return.

When the recession era hit awhile ago, their was a policy change with the shop which forced all customers to pay in full before an order was placed. You would not believe how many people were pissed and stopped ordering through the shop, yet they willingly do it online. They couldn't understand why, in tough financial times, the shop wouldn't carry the burden of the cost until they were ready to come in and pay for parts.

I honestly can't believe the shop allowed no pre-pay ordering for so long (decades.) The shop was basically floating each customer a line of credit and many of those customers had no business doing so.
10/25/2017 9:28am Edited Date/Time 10/25/2017 9:28am
When the parts department is not able to use the OEM parts catalog. That should be part of the employee training.
10/25/2017 9:39am
I just bi8ght my 2016 rmz250 they had it posted on there official web page at 7500 and then on another site at 6500 so I went in and looked at it and asked them the price they say $7500 ,I laughed and said it's posted on the other site for 6500 ,he tried to argue with me and said that wasn't at this dealer so I pulled the add up and emailed the add wouldn't you know his cell phone he had in his had made the email ding right away ,so ingot the bike for $5500 Lol guys face was as red as a Honda lol
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10/25/2017 9:47am
No pet peeves but around here we don't have a shop that is into MX. They focus on selling street bikes to the military guys/gals and don't even put the MX bikes on the floor. You have to ask to see them and they're in a back warehouse area. Either way though, they have a few guys that do race and ride moto so I try to give them as much business as I can to support them and the local economy.
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Lake Milton, OH, USA
10/25/2017 9:49am
I guess I'm just lucky when it comes to my local dealers. Yes, prices are a bit higher than I'd find online, but I also don't have to wait around for parts to ship and make it to my house. I feel like you guys all get the shittiest dealers around cause both my KTM and Husky dealers are easy to deal with, knowledgeable, and don't try to push more shit on me to buy.

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