R.I.P. Isle of Man Riders

Motocross83 6/8/2017 1:49am
6/8/2017 1:49am
Those guys are just incredible, I don't understand how they can process all the information coming at them, let alone find the courage to do it.

Though I completely agree with allowing people the freedom to do what they want unabated (if not at the detriment to anyone else) - it must surely be harder to arrive at that position if you're directly connected i.e a family member. Again, I'm NOT arguing against the event, let alone banning things... I'm simply saying that if my dad etc were competing in it then I'd probably end up bending their ear in a desperate attempt to get them to stop. Call it a human failing.

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Motocross83 wrote:
Those guys are just incredible, I don't understand how they can process all the information coming at them, let alone find the courage to do it...
Those guys are just incredible, I don't understand how they can process all the information coming at them, let alone find the courage to do it.

Though I completely agree with allowing people the freedom to do what they want unabated (if not at the detriment to anyone else) - it must surely be harder to arrive at that position if you're directly connected i.e a family member. Again, I'm NOT arguing against the event, let alone banning things... I'm simply saying that if my dad etc were competing in it then I'd probably end up bending their ear in a desperate attempt to get them to stop. Call it a human failing.

They are absolutely amazing. Watching that helmet cam stuff is like.... Blink Pinch Blink

Humans are effing incredible sometimes and these guys are the pinnacle.

Blows me away...

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I think no classic gearbox or no gearbox
Rdracer598 6/8/2017 6:11am
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I know a few guys who have ran road course races like Macau GP, Isle of Man and NW 200. Talking to them about those races is awesome. I would've loved the chance to race one of those courses.

I'm planning a trip to Isle of man TT in 2 years. Joey Dunlop foundation sets up packages for disabled people to come see the TT. Makes it very easy for us

RIP to the fallen
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I show this race to people all the time who have never heard of it. These are without a doubt, the most badass dudes alive. They haul so much ass the helicopters cant keep up!
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This year is only the 2nd time since 2006 I haven't gone to the TT.

The TT is an amazing event. It's a wonderful Island. The course is Utterly Beautiful and and Frighteningly Terrible, in equal measure. I've been around it many times in cars / vans and done quite a few laps on Motorcycles there. Each and every time, I'm stunned by the thought that riders race the course. If I had grown up in Ireland or England, I'm pretty sure I'd have become a Real Roads Racer. But, not a particularly fast one.

They are all Adults. The three riders who have died this year were aged 28, 33 and 48. Men that made their own minds up about racing. No one is making them do this. It's a deep, deep passion for all riders. As it is for their helpers, families, Teams and officials. I've met Mechanics, Marshals and Officials who have worked at the event for decades - well riders too.

I find it utterly offensive when people call the riders crazy, etc. I find it equally offensive when twats criticize the event and organizers. Snowflakes that enter into the piss poor mindset of protecting the riders from themselves, or, organizers.

Every death, every injury is a cause for sadness and concern, but these Men lived their lives, at the very least in their racing, to the full. It's disrespectful to them, and our Human need for achievement and life involvement to automatically jump on the 'Tut Tut' bandwagon. It's bad enough when it comes from the media, and non riding / non racing public, but when it comes from (I assume) riders / racers, it's even worse. You better stop riding yourselves, because to do otherwise shows you to be a bloody hypocrite. What we do as riders, is not safe.

All of you reading this, if you haven't gone to the TT, should make an effort to get there. It is one of the greatest gatherings of like minded, 'non pussified' people on earth.

Here's a link to video of Guy Martins prang in the Superbike race, and an interview after it: https://youtu.be/sjZXaUwYoog

If you are familiar with Martins' natural ebullience, you'll see quite a quieter side to him. He certainly had a hell of a moment. Not as fiery as his 2010 prang at 'Ballascary' ( made famous in TT: Closer To The Edge film, which led to his TV career) but truly frightening. The course is an unforgiving thing.

Vale' Davey Lambert, 48, Jochem van den Hoeck, 28 and Alan Bonner, 33. I truly hope there are no more casualties this year.
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To me, its even more extreme with sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmNXCJt7K3Q

The race is nuts, the people must have the biggest balls ever but the risk seems to be part of the appeal to them. Its very very sad every time someone loses their life to the course though.

R.I.P - god speed
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Watch this one and tilt your phones or tablet to keep the road flat with the horizon. Gives you an idea of the lean angle in some of the high speed corners. Love it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OmNXCJt7K3Q
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These are some of the baddest mother f*ckers on earth! Much respect! RIP my brothers
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davyboy944 wrote:
5 people died climbing Everest this year.

Ban climbing too.
rancor19 wrote:
My brother had a great idea: If we just bombed the top 4,000 feet off that sumbitch, we could save hundreds of lives.
Laughing fucking hilarious!

I have nothing but respect for the fallen. They're about as gnarly as it gets.
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Not a fan of any race where it's for certain someone will lose their life during the event.
R.I.P. my fellow 2 wheel brothers.
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Sideways wrote:
Should we forbid everything that is dangerous? How many have died climbing mountains? Should we ban that also? Maybe we should ban wingsuit jumping aswell! These...
Should we forbid everything that is dangerous? How many have died climbing mountains? Should we ban that also? Maybe we should ban wingsuit jumping aswell!

These guys live for this. They know the risk and are willing to take. I have heard so many interviews with riders saying - "If i die, atleast i die doing what i love."
I completely agree with you, but I think wing suit jumping is basically outlawed everywhere. It's just easy enough to get away with.
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as a fan, where is your " I can't support this" threshold. 10 fatalities per year, 20? More? I'm not asking for a ban. If your life holds no value outside of a motorcycle race, that's your decision. I won't support that decision. Continue with the "massive balls" comments.
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Yet the same riders sign up year after year, they would be the ones with the biggest bone to pick with the event being cancelled. You...
Yet the same riders sign up year after year, they would be the ones with the biggest bone to pick with the event being cancelled. You know, those people that you are trying to save from themselves.

You'd also have to ban all road racing during the season in Northern Ireland as well, because people don't just die at the TT racing bikes.

In my opinon, it is not up to you to tell others what they can and can't do with their lives as long as they don't hurt anyone else.








KB221 wrote:
you're right, Sideways is right, I agree with the comment these guys would be the first to complain, sorry emotional response. Fuckin sad tho.
This is not an attack on you btw, but if you want to know the answer to your original question, read Guy Martin's autobiography. Besides being a great read, he pretty much lays out the motivation for this event and why he(they) keep coming back. In a nut shell- the risk is worth the reward in his world. Very cool read.
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speed_racer wrote:
Not a fan of any race where it's for certain someone will lose their life during the event.
R.I.P. my fellow 2 wheel brothers.
It's not for certain...
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Bearuno wrote:
This year is only the 2nd time since 2006 I haven't gone to the TT. The TT is an amazing event. It's a wonderful Island. The...
This year is only the 2nd time since 2006 I haven't gone to the TT.

The TT is an amazing event. It's a wonderful Island. The course is Utterly Beautiful and and Frighteningly Terrible, in equal measure. I've been around it many times in cars / vans and done quite a few laps on Motorcycles there. Each and every time, I'm stunned by the thought that riders race the course. If I had grown up in Ireland or England, I'm pretty sure I'd have become a Real Roads Racer. But, not a particularly fast one.

They are all Adults. The three riders who have died this year were aged 28, 33 and 48. Men that made their own minds up about racing. No one is making them do this. It's a deep, deep passion for all riders. As it is for their helpers, families, Teams and officials. I've met Mechanics, Marshals and Officials who have worked at the event for decades - well riders too.

I find it utterly offensive when people call the riders crazy, etc. I find it equally offensive when twats criticize the event and organizers. Snowflakes that enter into the piss poor mindset of protecting the riders from themselves, or, organizers.

Every death, every injury is a cause for sadness and concern, but these Men lived their lives, at the very least in their racing, to the full. It's disrespectful to them, and our Human need for achievement and life involvement to automatically jump on the 'Tut Tut' bandwagon. It's bad enough when it comes from the media, and non riding / non racing public, but when it comes from (I assume) riders / racers, it's even worse. You better stop riding yourselves, because to do otherwise shows you to be a bloody hypocrite. What we do as riders, is not safe.

All of you reading this, if you haven't gone to the TT, should make an effort to get there. It is one of the greatest gatherings of like minded, 'non pussified' people on earth.

Here's a link to video of Guy Martins prang in the Superbike race, and an interview after it: https://youtu.be/sjZXaUwYoog

If you are familiar with Martins' natural ebullience, you'll see quite a quieter side to him. He certainly had a hell of a moment. Not as fiery as his 2010 prang at 'Ballascary' ( made famous in TT: Closer To The Edge film, which led to his TV career) but truly frightening. The course is an unforgiving thing.

Vale' Davey Lambert, 48, Jochem van den Hoeck, 28 and Alan Bonner, 33. I truly hope there are no more casualties this year.
I was about to respond to all the people criticizing this event, but I just cannot top this ^^^^.

I'm pretty disgusted by people who try to control others and remove their right to live AND die the way they choose. How do you make the right decision as to how much danger a person should be allowed to face? 95% of people would take motorcycles away altogether. But for the ones on this thread they're fine with racing, but oh just don't let it be too dangerous because my little heart can't take it. It's not up to you. These are MEN and they can make their own choice. They died happier than you will.

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Every motorcycle racer should watch this movie on Netflix. You'll spend half the time wanting to go ride and half the time tearing up like a little girl.....especially if you grew up riding with your Dad.
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BobbyLight wrote:
I show this race to people all the time who have never heard of it. These are without a doubt, the most badass dudes alive. They...
I show this race to people all the time who have never heard of it. These are without a doubt, the most badass dudes alive. They haul so much ass the helicopters cant keep up!
Absolutely. These fucking guys are warriors without a shadow of a doubt and may the souls of those who gave their lives being complete 100% badasses rest in peace.

The families of the riders have to be proud of such skill and courage. Nothing but the utmost respect for all of those riders.
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as a fan, where is your " I can't support this" threshold. 10 fatalities per year, 20? More? I'm not asking for a ban. If your...
as a fan, where is your " I can't support this" threshold. 10 fatalities per year, 20? More? I'm not asking for a ban. If your life holds no value outside of a motorcycle race, that's your decision. I won't support that decision. Continue with the "massive balls" comments.
I support the riders right to do the race. And if riders are willing to race, I support the promoters right to put in on. It is one of the last motorsport events which is unburdened with a never ending quest for safety above all else. But I don't watch it anymore. It certainly exceeds my fatality threshold. But I won't judge people who do still watch it.
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Bearuno wrote:
This year is only the 2nd time since 2006 I haven't gone to the TT. The TT is an amazing event. It's a wonderful Island. The...
This year is only the 2nd time since 2006 I haven't gone to the TT.

The TT is an amazing event. It's a wonderful Island. The course is Utterly Beautiful and and Frighteningly Terrible, in equal measure. I've been around it many times in cars / vans and done quite a few laps on Motorcycles there. Each and every time, I'm stunned by the thought that riders race the course. If I had grown up in Ireland or England, I'm pretty sure I'd have become a Real Roads Racer. But, not a particularly fast one.

They are all Adults. The three riders who have died this year were aged 28, 33 and 48. Men that made their own minds up about racing. No one is making them do this. It's a deep, deep passion for all riders. As it is for their helpers, families, Teams and officials. I've met Mechanics, Marshals and Officials who have worked at the event for decades - well riders too.

I find it utterly offensive when people call the riders crazy, etc. I find it equally offensive when twats criticize the event and organizers. Snowflakes that enter into the piss poor mindset of protecting the riders from themselves, or, organizers.

Every death, every injury is a cause for sadness and concern, but these Men lived their lives, at the very least in their racing, to the full. It's disrespectful to them, and our Human need for achievement and life involvement to automatically jump on the 'Tut Tut' bandwagon. It's bad enough when it comes from the media, and non riding / non racing public, but when it comes from (I assume) riders / racers, it's even worse. You better stop riding yourselves, because to do otherwise shows you to be a bloody hypocrite. What we do as riders, is not safe.

All of you reading this, if you haven't gone to the TT, should make an effort to get there. It is one of the greatest gatherings of like minded, 'non pussified' people on earth.

Here's a link to video of Guy Martins prang in the Superbike race, and an interview after it: https://youtu.be/sjZXaUwYoog

If you are familiar with Martins' natural ebullience, you'll see quite a quieter side to him. He certainly had a hell of a moment. Not as fiery as his 2010 prang at 'Ballascary' ( made famous in TT: Closer To The Edge film, which led to his TV career) but truly frightening. The course is an unforgiving thing.

Vale' Davey Lambert, 48, Jochem van den Hoeck, 28 and Alan Bonner, 33. I truly hope there are no more casualties this year.
He certainly seems to have got a shock, strange to see him like that.

Closer To The Edge is brilliant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLBxtT-5LBc
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Mx746 wrote:
as a fan, where is your " I can't support this" threshold. 10 fatalities per year, 20? More? I'm not asking for a ban. If your...
as a fan, where is your " I can't support this" threshold. 10 fatalities per year, 20? More? I'm not asking for a ban. If your life holds no value outside of a motorcycle race, that's your decision. I won't support that decision. Continue with the "massive balls" comments.
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I support the riders right to do the race. And if riders are willing to race, I support the promoters right to put in on. It...
I support the riders right to do the race. And if riders are willing to race, I support the promoters right to put in on. It is one of the last motorsport events which is unburdened with a never ending quest for safety above all else. But I don't watch it anymore. It certainly exceeds my fatality threshold. But I won't judge people who do still watch it.
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Sad to see anyone pass away.

I has seen several times Real Road Racing on TV.

http://www.mavtv.com/shows/real-road-racing-series.html

Those guy's are nuts! Racing side by side at those speeds on regular roads you have to have a lot of trust in the other riders.

I don't follow Isle of Man but are those guy's still riding against the clock or side by side?
scottydogmx 6/8/2017 9:27am
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Jesus, dude... Really? These are MEN living life - and sometimes losing it. Like someone above stated, the edge is where they feel most alive. As...
Jesus, dude... Really?

These are MEN living life - and sometimes losing it. Like someone above stated, the edge is where they feel most alive. As sad as it is, they know the risks.

What would you have men like this do? Take some pills to make that desire go away?

This shit makes me so angry.
Eehhmm, Men and WOMEN!!
Hats off to them women, they have bigger balls than me.
So sad to hear of riders losing their lives, but it is what they and us all live for, we all know the risks before we swing a leg over the seat, however all the risks are forgotten by the time we pull away.
RIP
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mxjon454 wrote:
R.I.P to all those fallen riders. Idk how they can keep running this race when people die every year from it
Sideways wrote:
Should we forbid everything that is dangerous? How many have died climbing mountains? Should we ban that also? Maybe we should ban wingsuit jumping aswell! These...
Should we forbid everything that is dangerous? How many have died climbing mountains? Should we ban that also? Maybe we should ban wingsuit jumping aswell!

These guys live for this. They know the risk and are willing to take. I have heard so many interviews with riders saying - "If i die, atleast i die doing what i love."
i don't know if we should ban anything, but that doesn't mean we have to accept it socially. anyone who takes that kind of risk, for that kind of reward, is selfish, self absorbed asshole..theres no glory in risking your life for a shiny trophy and a stroke of the ego. Risking your life to the benefit of others...thats worthy of song and praise...not riding a motorcycle like an idiot.

your example of mountain climbing is literally the worst example you could use. YES!!! people are actively trying to stop people from climbing certain peaks.

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The race is held on village streets and Island roads. Safety issues have been addressed in some locations but you cannot pad or remove everything. Hit a curb and you may die. Hit an animal and you may die. Most fatalities are coming off of the bike and hitting a wall, a curb, a tree, or just getting broken up in the crash. No GP teams will race it or allow their riders to race it. Too dangerous. It was a GP race back in the days when Hailwood and Agostini were the top dogs. In 1976 they lost that designation. The death toll to racers and officials is about 255 (not counting this years deaths) since 1911.

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Sideways wrote:
Should we forbid everything that is dangerous? How many have died climbing mountains? Should we ban that also? Maybe we should ban wingsuit jumping aswell! These...
Should we forbid everything that is dangerous? How many have died climbing mountains? Should we ban that also? Maybe we should ban wingsuit jumping aswell!

These guys live for this. They know the risk and are willing to take. I have heard so many interviews with riders saying - "If i die, atleast i die doing what i love."
KB221 wrote:
This is an ignorant argument. If you held a race were people died every year would you keep doing it? This shit makes me so angry...
This is an ignorant argument.

If you held a race were people died every year would you keep doing it?

This shit makes me so angry.

RIP Boys
x2. This race is held on closed public roads with minimal modifications or safety protection. Riders are going in excess of 180 MPH on bikes purpose designed for closed course racing. What do you think the outcome will be? The Organizers are willing to sacrifice riders' lives for money and the spectacle. Fans flock to it for the same reasons. Yeah, those who ride it make the choice to do so. For what? Glory? Not much glory leaving your family behind by dying in a race that very few globally have even heard about. I doubt my wife or 10 year old would be satisfied with my tombstone reading "at least i died doing what i love".

I love to race stuff. Have done so since 15, and I'm 54 now. But, I'm not willing to die doing it. My commitment to my family far outweighs my desire to race. If I do die racing, and that's always a possibility in motocross,it won't be because I was racing in something that so obviously increases the risk of fatality as this race does.

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mxjon454 wrote:
R.I.P to all those fallen riders. Idk how they can keep running this race when people die every year from it
Sideways wrote:
Should we forbid everything that is dangerous? How many have died climbing mountains? Should we ban that also? Maybe we should ban wingsuit jumping aswell! These...
Should we forbid everything that is dangerous? How many have died climbing mountains? Should we ban that also? Maybe we should ban wingsuit jumping aswell!

These guys live for this. They know the risk and are willing to take. I have heard so many interviews with riders saying - "If i die, atleast i die doing what i love."
Katoomey wrote:
i don't know if we should ban anything, but that doesn't mean we have to accept it socially. anyone who takes that kind of risk, for...
i don't know if we should ban anything, but that doesn't mean we have to accept it socially. anyone who takes that kind of risk, for that kind of reward, is selfish, self absorbed asshole..theres no glory in risking your life for a shiny trophy and a stroke of the ego. Risking your life to the benefit of others...thats worthy of song and praise...not riding a motorcycle like an idiot.

your example of mountain climbing is literally the worst example you could use. YES!!! people are actively trying to stop people from climbing certain peaks.

What is more selfish than telling somebody else they cannot live their life the way they want to simply because you don't agree with it????

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