Wild-ass speculation: JS7 can't pass the medical tests

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4/24/2017 10:29pm Edited Date/Time 4/24/2017 10:33pm
Stewarts downward spiral came around the same time A Rod tested positive for a cocktail of sport enhancing drug use, February 2009', (Sports Illustrated) A Rod lives in Florida as JS lives in Flordia. The big drug guru lived in Miami and supplied major professional sport althetes was arrested and convicted. James lack of results as of 2010' speaks for itself, correlate this time frame or not, love or hate JS7, it is compelling.

See below, 2010 and beyond, hmmmm.


James Stewart Career Highlights2012 – 11th AMA Motocross – Suzuki
2012 – 7th AMA Supercross – Yamaha
2011 – 4th AMA Supercross – Yamaha
2010 – 35th AMA Motocross – Yamaha
2010 – 20th AMA Supercross (Injured) – Yamaha
2009 – X-Games MotoX Best Trick Silver – Yamaha
2009 – 1st Supercross – Yamaha
2008 – 1st Paris-Bercy Supercross – Yamaha
2008 – AMA Speed Athlete of the Year
2008 – 1st Motocross of Nations – Kawasaki
2008 – 1st Motocross – Kawasaki
2008 – 23rd Supercross – Kawasaki
2007 – 1st FIM World Supercross GP – Kawasaki
2007 – 7th Motocross – Kawasaki
2007 – 1st Supercross – Kawasaki
2006 – 1st FIM World Supercross GP – Kawasaki
2006 – 1st Motocross of Nations – Kawasaki
2006 – 4th Motocross – Kawasaki
2006 – 4th Supercross – Kawasaki
2005 – 12th Motocross – Kawasaki
2005 – 10th Supercross – Kawasaki
2004 – 1st 125 Motocross – Kawasaki
2004 – 1st 125 Supercross Lites East – Kawasaki
2003 – 3rd 125 Motocross – Kawasaki
2003 – 1st 125 Supercross Lites West – Kawasaki
2002 – AMA Rookie of the Year
2002 – 1st 125 Motocross – Kawasaki
2002 – 2nd 125 Supercross Lites West – Kawasaki
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4/24/2017 10:36pm
maybe he can't pass the age or motivation test, those are self-administered.

James has proven all he needs to prove. It's over.
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4/24/2017 11:23pm
Stewarts downward spiral came around the same time A Rod tested positive for a cocktail of sport enhancing drug use, February 2009', (Sports Illustrated) A Rod...
Stewarts downward spiral came around the same time A Rod tested positive for a cocktail of sport enhancing drug use, February 2009', (Sports Illustrated) A Rod lives in Florida as JS lives in Flordia. The big drug guru lived in Miami and supplied major professional sport althetes was arrested and convicted. James lack of results as of 2010' speaks for itself, correlate this time frame or not, love or hate JS7, it is compelling.

See below, 2010 and beyond, hmmmm.


James Stewart Career Highlights2012 – 11th AMA Motocross – Suzuki
2012 – 7th AMA Supercross – Yamaha
2011 – 4th AMA Supercross – Yamaha
2010 – 35th AMA Motocross – Yamaha
2010 – 20th AMA Supercross (Injured) – Yamaha
2009 – X-Games MotoX Best Trick Silver – Yamaha
2009 – 1st Supercross – Yamaha
2008 – 1st Paris-Bercy Supercross – Yamaha
2008 – AMA Speed Athlete of the Year
2008 – 1st Motocross of Nations – Kawasaki
2008 – 1st Motocross – Kawasaki
2008 – 23rd Supercross – Kawasaki
2007 – 1st FIM World Supercross GP – Kawasaki
2007 – 7th Motocross – Kawasaki
2007 – 1st Supercross – Kawasaki
2006 – 1st FIM World Supercross GP – Kawasaki
2006 – 1st Motocross of Nations – Kawasaki
2006 – 4th Motocross – Kawasaki
2006 – 4th Supercross – Kawasaki
2005 – 12th Motocross – Kawasaki
2005 – 10th Supercross – Kawasaki
2004 – 1st 125 Motocross – Kawasaki
2004 – 1st 125 Supercross Lites East – Kawasaki
2003 – 3rd 125 Motocross – Kawasaki
2003 – 1st 125 Supercross Lites West – Kawasaki
2002 – AMA Rookie of the Year
2002 – 1st 125 Motocross – Kawasaki
2002 – 2nd 125 Supercross Lites West – Kawasaki
I have missed that A-Rod did take and how long ban he did get?
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4/24/2017 11:34pm
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.

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My question is when was the last time there was a drug test in AMA SX/MX?..Oh when JS7 was tested'..Do they even test anymore I find...
My question is when was the last time there was a drug test in AMA SX/MX?..Oh when JS7 was tested'..Do they even test anymore I find it ironic that there has been very little talk of testing since then!
You may have a point, I now realize this was all a massive conspiracy against JS7. They don't test anyone else, just him. Come to think of it, they only caught him with amphetamine in his system so it was clearly a conspiracy by those haters at WADA to ban him for that as well. They wouldn't test anyone else, and even if they had decided to test and found amphetamine in their system they'd buried the result because their name wasn't James Stewart.

Why can't they all just stop picking on James? Makes me really want to cry sometimes.
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4/25/2017 12:14am
wow, 32yo.. i don't blame him for living a much less stressful life of family fun.
Surely James has earned enough coin to enjoy the rest of his life.
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4/25/2017 12:42am Edited Date/Time 4/25/2017 12:45am
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wow, 32yo.. i don't blame him for living a much less stressful life of family fun. Surely James has earned enough coin to enjoy the rest...
wow, 32yo.. i don't blame him for living a much less stressful life of family fun.
Surely James has earned enough coin to enjoy the rest of his life.
I don't think anyone here blames him either if thats what he is doing, he certainly earned it. I believe the issue is all the silence and not knowing what's going on with him coupled with the last anyone did hear he wasn't done. Its doubtful anyone would be pissed if he did retire, all most everyone would be saddened I'm sure. many just would be happy with an update if he isn't done or a statement if he is. I've never been a big fan but surely appreciated the excitement and just about everything else he brings to the gate but I'd hate to see the end!
4/25/2017 12:54am
Competition is also obviusly higher then it was in 2002-2004 on his 125. And also from 2005-2009 with exeption from RC and Reed (maybe later years also but he had lots of crashes and villopoto and dungey came into the picture). I am a big stewart fan, so that is not meant in any bad way. Im just saying he wont win at this point in supercross. Tomac is just faster, just like Stewart was faster back in the day.

4/25/2017 2:31am
what id like to know is how many racers in the top 20 have a tue for Adderall
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4/25/2017 5:51am
I suspect that some of those posting frequently in this thread would have a hard time passing a "medical test"
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4/25/2017 7:07am
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BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other...
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.
You say the same thing over and over. Guyb explained to you last time that James got injured at the overseas off season race, then again at Monster Cup and again at A1. As for the Adderall, he started taking it in 2012 when Coy Gibbs recommended he get tested for ADHD. Except for when he was with JGR, I'd say his best riding was long before he got his prescription. But hell, if you're going to accuse riders of something on speculation, maybe RC and RV were able to win and transform their bodies from steroids from Aldon. No need to speculate on one rider, keep it going man, you're rolling. Laughing
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4/25/2017 7:10am
I'd like to add tho Stew is drinking beer, playing golf and enjoying his family! That's why he's not racing. Not fn ped use or unable to pass a concussion test. Now u all know so quit asking. Cry some more about him not explaining himself... U really want to hear about the shitty diaper he changed or the 82 he Shot yesterday at bay hill? Come on
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jeffro503 wrote:
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other...
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
You say the same thing over and over. Guyb explained to you last time that James got injured at the overseas off season race, then again...
You say the same thing over and over. Guyb explained to you last time that James got injured at the overseas off season race, then again at Monster Cup and again at A1. As for the Adderall, he started taking it in 2012 when Coy Gibbs recommended he get tested for ADHD. Except for when he was with JGR, I'd say his best riding was long before he got his prescription. But hell, if you're going to accuse riders of something on speculation, maybe RC and RV were able to win and transform their bodies from steroids from Aldon. No need to speculate on one rider, keep it going man, you're rolling. Laughing
RC and RV got tested their whole career, passed every time.

Stewart got tested a few weeks after one of his best rides in 2014 and failed for Amphetamine usage.

Got banned by WADA, subsequently was limited to a medicinal dosage in accordance with his TUE and never won again. Never even got close. Has since disappeared from the sport without explanation.

Please address these facts and let me know if any are wrong. Any personal attacks on me will merely demonstrate you have nothing to contradict my facts.



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RC and RV got tested their whole career, passed every time. Stewart got tested a few weeks after one of his best rides in 2014 and...
RC and RV got tested their whole career, passed every time.

Stewart got tested a few weeks after one of his best rides in 2014 and failed for Amphetamine usage.

Got banned by WADA, subsequently was limited to a medicinal dosage in accordance with his TUE and never won again. Never even got close. Has since disappeared from the sport without explanation.

Please address these facts and let me know if any are wrong. Any personal attacks on me will merely demonstrate you have nothing to contradict my facts.



Stewart was tested numerous times before 2012 and passed them all also. I think after the 18 months or 2 years off, whatever it was, he was very rusty, but more than anything else, the concussion at A1 was the killer.

A few years ago Jeff Ward said James has had too many concussions to still be racing. Hopefully that's not the case, and he can come back, or retire with his family completely healthy.

As far as not coming back yet, I think under the right team he'd give it a go, outside of that I think he's torn whether he really wants to or not.
4/25/2017 8:13am
JustMX wrote:
I suspect that some of those posting frequently in this thread would have a hard time passing a "medical test"
Mine tested positive for pure awesomeness.
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4/25/2017 8:23am Edited Date/Time 4/25/2017 8:25am
This thread started off stupid and has just become ignorant, as most Stew threads do these days.

You know, if I was James, and I had rung my bell as many times as he has...and had been told (probably) by doctors that with one more "good one" that I had a real chance of becoming a cucumber, I'll be damned if I would come back to racing on my own dime. Hell no! IF I came back, and took the chance of virtually losing all that was dear to me as a result of a big crash, somebody would have to pay me the huge bucks and back me to the hilt so that it would benefit my family as well as me whether I did well or not. Somebody would have to make it well worth my while to take the risk again.

Apparently, nobody has stepped up yet to do all that James requires. I don't see him coming back at all until somebody does.

My 2-cents.
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OMFG if he said he will be back, HE WILL. Now move this thread to dumbgeon cause that's where it belongs.
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4/25/2017 8:40am
jeffro503 wrote:
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other...
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.
I don't know James and I'm pretty sure your not a family member that lives at the compound but I do find it ironic that your opinion of what he did or is doing fascinating but how does him gaining weight have anything to do with Adderall or some elicit​ drug that may have affected his career? The guy just got married and had a baby,lol he was probably eating what ever the wife was eating (craving) most men do! I surely did Lmao omg them late night runs for corn beef sandwiches was blowing me up! But I'm just saying she wasn't training for a up coming season and he may have just got been chilling with his wife and gained the weight and then he ate the Dungey Tbone dinner at A1, that concussion I'm sure helped seal the season for him he was the same after that! My point is we all speculate but no knows what was going on with this guy except those that needed to know!
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4/25/2017 8:47am Edited Date/Time 4/25/2017 8:48am
jeffro503 wrote:
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other...
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.
MX-LIFE. wrote:
I don't know James and I'm pretty sure your not a family member that lives at the compound but I do find it ironic that your...
I don't know James and I'm pretty sure your not a family member that lives at the compound but I do find it ironic that your opinion of what he did or is doing fascinating but how does him gaining weight have anything to do with Adderall or some elicit​ drug that may have affected his career? The guy just got married and had a baby,lol he was probably eating what ever the wife was eating (craving) most men do! I surely did Lmao omg them late night runs for corn beef sandwiches was blowing me up! But I'm just saying she wasn't training for a up coming season and he may have just got been chilling with his wife and gained the weight and then he ate the Dungey Tbone dinner at A1, that concussion I'm sure helped seal the season for him he was the same after that! My point is we all speculate but no knows what was going on with this guy except those that needed to know!
Exactly brother! The man is eating whatever he wants, enjoying his wonderful family and also enjoying the fruits of his labor, like playing golf with retired pro athletes and pro golfers like bubba Watson. They just all wish they had the same... That's the problem, haters! But u don't have them unless ur doing something right...
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4/25/2017 9:45am
jeffro503 wrote:
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other...
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.
Fake News, Jeffro. James has said himself he knew he needed a TUE and thought someone in his group had turned the paperwork in.

I don't know where you get your "facts" sometimes.
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jeffro503 wrote:
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other...
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
You say the same thing over and over. Guyb explained to you last time that James got injured at the overseas off season race, then again...
You say the same thing over and over. Guyb explained to you last time that James got injured at the overseas off season race, then again at Monster Cup and again at A1. As for the Adderall, he started taking it in 2012 when Coy Gibbs recommended he get tested for ADHD. Except for when he was with JGR, I'd say his best riding was long before he got his prescription. But hell, if you're going to accuse riders of something on speculation, maybe RC and RV were able to win and transform their bodies from steroids from Aldon. No need to speculate on one rider, keep it going man, you're rolling. Laughing
I swear Chip you say some of the most retarded shit ever when it comes to this subject.

First....it doesn't matter who " told him to get checked out "...he did that on his own accord. James said himself he started taking Adderall in 2012. He had 5 of his best moto's in quite some time at the first few rounds before he went down. Remember that?

I keep saying it , because it is a 100% true fact. Having a TUE makes no difference when we look at just the performance of before and after having those dosages monitored.

Before....2012 out doors - 2014 Toronto.....on adderall with no monitoring.

After the ban , being monitored......go look at the results. And , you just proclaimed James as being the innocent victim , and yet accused RC and RV.

This is pure stupidity on your part. But your pride won't let you say what you know damn well is true. I know , that you are 100% a good dude , but on this particular subject , you are way off. And WADA thought he was cheating , hence the ban. It wasn't just a " paper work " issue like you have said before in the past.

And now that he has a TUE , gets to take his medication ( in monitored dosages ).....explain the body transformation there. Explain the results. It's easy....he was abusing the shit out of it , that's why.
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4/25/2017 10:12am
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BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other...
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.
Fake News, Jeffro. James has said himself he knew he needed a TUE and thought someone in his group had turned the paperwork in. I don't...
Fake News, Jeffro. James has said himself he knew he needed a TUE and thought someone in his group had turned the paperwork in.

I don't know where you get your "facts" sometimes.
That right there is fake news brother. Nobody seemed to know anything about him even using it. Nothing like getting caught and then passing the blame off to others I guess. BTW....he never said that. The night when he had to take the piss test , that's when he said he was using something and had no idea he was suppose to have a TUE for it.

His own doctor , his team , his family , his huge group of hanger on's.........none of them knew he needed a TUE? A professional athlete and his entire crew " didn't know". Oh that's gold right there haha.
4/25/2017 10:13am
Fake News, Jeffro. James has said himself he knew he needed a TUE and thought someone in his group had turned the paperwork in. I don't...
Fake News, Jeffro. James has said himself he knew he needed a TUE and thought someone in his group had turned the paperwork in.

I don't know where you get your "facts" sometimes.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong...

James thinking that someone else turned the paperwork in is not even the biggest consideration! Why...

Through the many, many... many threads about this there was a video posted, I believe, that showed what a rider goes through with drug testing. In that video riders are asked point blank "Are you currently on or taking ANY medication?"

By James own admission he had been taking Adderall(testing positive for amphetamines) since 2012. It'd be interesting to know how many times in that 2(+) year span he was asked that question and what his answer to it was?
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4/25/2017 10:15am
jeffro503 wrote:
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other...
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
You say the same thing over and over. Guyb explained to you last time that James got injured at the overseas off season race, then again...
You say the same thing over and over. Guyb explained to you last time that James got injured at the overseas off season race, then again at Monster Cup and again at A1. As for the Adderall, he started taking it in 2012 when Coy Gibbs recommended he get tested for ADHD. Except for when he was with JGR, I'd say his best riding was long before he got his prescription. But hell, if you're going to accuse riders of something on speculation, maybe RC and RV were able to win and transform their bodies from steroids from Aldon. No need to speculate on one rider, keep it going man, you're rolling. Laughing
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I swear Chip you say some of the most retarded shit ever when it comes to this subject. First....it doesn't matter who " told him to...
I swear Chip you say some of the most retarded shit ever when it comes to this subject.

First....it doesn't matter who " told him to get checked out "...he did that on his own accord. James said himself he started taking Adderall in 2012. He had 5 of his best moto's in quite some time at the first few rounds before he went down. Remember that?

I keep saying it , because it is a 100% true fact. Having a TUE makes no difference when we look at just the performance of before and after having those dosages monitored.

Before....2012 out doors - 2014 Toronto.....on adderall with no monitoring.

After the ban , being monitored......go look at the results. And , you just proclaimed James as being the innocent victim , and yet accused RC and RV.

This is pure stupidity on your part. But your pride won't let you say what you know damn well is true. I know , that you are 100% a good dude , but on this particular subject , you are way off. And WADA thought he was cheating , hence the ban. It wasn't just a " paper work " issue like you have said before in the past.

And now that he has a TUE , gets to take his medication ( in monitored dosages ).....explain the body transformation there. Explain the results. It's easy....he was abusing the shit out of it , that's why.
I didn't accuse RV or RC, I said if you're going to speculate on a rider without facts, why choose just one. But I already know why, you've taken shots at JS7 your entire posting career, just like another member in this thread. It's bizarre, and it's only you two over, over, over and over again. I won't get into all the things you've called JS7 or what you said you hope happens to him, because you got so sensitive about it last time. :laugh
Does it make you feel better to accuse a rider of something over and over again? Is it jealousy cause he's rich and accomplished so much? I just don't get it Laughing

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4/25/2017 10:20am Edited Date/Time 4/25/2017 10:21am
Two things I learned from this thread.

1: Collages are in fact over rated.

2: No one has a clue in the world what is up with James Bubba Stewart.
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
You say the same thing over and over. Guyb explained to you last time that James got injured at the overseas off season race, then again...
You say the same thing over and over. Guyb explained to you last time that James got injured at the overseas off season race, then again at Monster Cup and again at A1. As for the Adderall, he started taking it in 2012 when Coy Gibbs recommended he get tested for ADHD. Except for when he was with JGR, I'd say his best riding was long before he got his prescription. But hell, if you're going to accuse riders of something on speculation, maybe RC and RV were able to win and transform their bodies from steroids from Aldon. No need to speculate on one rider, keep it going man, you're rolling. Laughing
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I swear Chip you say some of the most retarded shit ever when it comes to this subject. First....it doesn't matter who " told him to...
I swear Chip you say some of the most retarded shit ever when it comes to this subject.

First....it doesn't matter who " told him to get checked out "...he did that on his own accord. James said himself he started taking Adderall in 2012. He had 5 of his best moto's in quite some time at the first few rounds before he went down. Remember that?

I keep saying it , because it is a 100% true fact. Having a TUE makes no difference when we look at just the performance of before and after having those dosages monitored.

Before....2012 out doors - 2014 Toronto.....on adderall with no monitoring.

After the ban , being monitored......go look at the results. And , you just proclaimed James as being the innocent victim , and yet accused RC and RV.

This is pure stupidity on your part. But your pride won't let you say what you know damn well is true. I know , that you are 100% a good dude , but on this particular subject , you are way off. And WADA thought he was cheating , hence the ban. It wasn't just a " paper work " issue like you have said before in the past.

And now that he has a TUE , gets to take his medication ( in monitored dosages ).....explain the body transformation there. Explain the results. It's easy....he was abusing the shit out of it , that's why.
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I didn't accuse RV or RC, I said if you're going to speculate on a rider without facts, why choose just one. But I already know...
I didn't accuse RV or RC, I said if you're going to speculate on a rider without facts, why choose just one. But I already know why, you've taken shots at JS7 your entire posting career, just like another member in this thread. It's bizarre, and it's only you two over, over, over and over again. I won't get into all the things you've called JS7 or what you said you hope happens to him, because you got so sensitive about it last time. :laugh
Does it make you feel better to accuse a rider of something over and over again? Is it jealousy cause he's rich and accomplished so much? I just don't get it Laughing

I have only taken shots at James on THIS particular subject. I don't know who the " Other " guy is that is taking shots at James on this subject....but there are many in just this thread alone that agree with what I have said. On a side note , there are only a couple of you that try to sweep the entire thing under the rug , proclaim his innocence and then....pass accusations towards other riders.

You just said...." Explains why the body transformation with RV and RC "......didn't James just make a huge ( like literally ) transformation after he got caught?

The guy who gets caught is innocent? And the guys who never failed a piss test are now guilty , by what you're saying.
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BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other...
BTW....I aint got nothing against James , and I think of it as water under the bridge , because I know damn well there are other riders out there using shit they shouldn't. It was the " Oh , I didn't know I needed a TUE for this stuff " bullshit that gets under my skin. Every doctor on planet earth knows what most athletes use Addy for. It is at the very TOP of the list in drugs that WADA searches for because of that exact reason.

He gets his dosage's monitored and what happens? Puts on a bunch of weight and can't seem to even get close to where he was at before he got caught. It's all right there in black and white if you look at his finishes.

Brilliant rider that made a bad choice.
Fake News, Jeffro. James has said himself he knew he needed a TUE and thought someone in his group had turned the paperwork in. I don't...
Fake News, Jeffro. James has said himself he knew he needed a TUE and thought someone in his group had turned the paperwork in.

I don't know where you get your "facts" sometimes.
jeffro503 wrote:
That right there is fake news brother. Nobody seemed to know anything about him even using it. Nothing like getting caught and then passing the blame...
That right there is fake news brother. Nobody seemed to know anything about him even using it. Nothing like getting caught and then passing the blame off to others I guess. BTW....he never said that. The night when he had to take the piss test , that's when he said he was using something and had no idea he was suppose to have a TUE for it.

His own doctor , his team , his family , his huge group of hanger on's.........none of them knew he needed a TUE? A professional athlete and his entire crew " didn't know". Oh that's gold right there haha.
Jesus Jeffro. Where do you get these "facts"? Buzzfeed?

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Fake News, Jeffro. James has said himself he knew he needed a TUE and thought someone in his group had turned the paperwork in. I don't...
Fake News, Jeffro. James has said himself he knew he needed a TUE and thought someone in his group had turned the paperwork in.

I don't know where you get your "facts" sometimes.
jeffro503 wrote:
That right there is fake news brother. Nobody seemed to know anything about him even using it. Nothing like getting caught and then passing the blame...
That right there is fake news brother. Nobody seemed to know anything about him even using it. Nothing like getting caught and then passing the blame off to others I guess. BTW....he never said that. The night when he had to take the piss test , that's when he said he was using something and had no idea he was suppose to have a TUE for it.

His own doctor , his team , his family , his huge group of hanger on's.........none of them knew he needed a TUE? A professional athlete and his entire crew " didn't know". Oh that's gold right there haha.
Jesus Jeffro. Where do you get these "facts"? Buzzfeed?

From talking to people I know and reading about it after it happens. Go dig up all the old threads if you want to.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I have only taken shots at James on THIS particular subject. I don't know who the " Other " guy is that is taking shots at...
I have only taken shots at James on THIS particular subject. I don't know who the " Other " guy is that is taking shots at James on this subject....but there are many in just this thread alone that agree with what I have said. On a side note , there are only a couple of you that try to sweep the entire thing under the rug , proclaim his innocence and then....pass accusations towards other riders.

You just said...." Explains why the body transformation with RV and RC "......didn't James just make a huge ( like literally ) transformation after he got caught?

The guy who gets caught is innocent? And the guys who never failed a piss test are now guilty , by what you're saying.
You're not getting it. I would never claim a rider was taking something or more than they're supposed to, it's a scummy thing to do without facts. Just like when people would accuse RC and RV of steroids. My analogy was why do YOU only choose one rider to accuse something of. He didn't have a TUE, he has one now. That's great, he can race with his medication, be happy for him and move on Blink

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