Tim Gajser U.S. 2018

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kzizok wrote:
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davistld01 wrote:
Kenny came to America, and almost instantly "got it". He adjusted quickly to the American style of racing, being ultra aggressive and 100% on the gas...
Kenny came to America, and almost instantly "got it". He adjusted quickly to the American style of racing, being ultra aggressive and 100% on the gas from beginning to end...whereas Euro GP-style is more blitz-cruise-blitz with riders conserving energy for a push for the finish in the last few laps of a race. I don't believe Gajser can adapt as fast.
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Have you watched Gajser race? Your comment is ridiculous.
Agree.. Gasjer holds it on for death the entire race. Die trying is the term that comes to mind. I agree also that he's not Kenny... He actually has an arm that won't trouble him the rest of his career
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Tim Gajser is a complete savage. It's crazy that he managed to win the title last year while nearly putting himself in ICU multiple times. I'm a big fan, but what a maniac. Cruising is not in that guys vocabulary.
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Jrewing wrote:
Agree.. Gasjer holds it on for death the entire race. Die trying is the term that comes to mind. I agree also that he's not Kenny...
Agree.. Gasjer holds it on for death the entire race. Die trying is the term that comes to mind. I agree also that he's not Kenny... He actually has an arm that won't trouble him the rest of his career
Yours and JB 19's posts sum Gajser up accurately. He's a beast and he's the kind of guy that lays it all on the line. Part of what we all loved JS7 for, checkers or wreckers.

That's why I think SX is not a good idea for Tim just yet. Unless he approaches SX prep and racing in a different fashion which I doubt he could do.
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kzizok wrote:
Elaborate
davistld01 wrote:
Kenny came to America, and almost instantly "got it". He adjusted quickly to the American style of racing, being ultra aggressive and 100% on the gas...
Kenny came to America, and almost instantly "got it". He adjusted quickly to the American style of racing, being ultra aggressive and 100% on the gas from beginning to end...whereas Euro GP-style is more blitz-cruise-blitz with riders conserving energy for a push for the finish in the last few laps of a race. I don't believe Gajser can adapt as fast.
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This is such a old fashion way of looking at the GPs. You have clearly not watched Gajser or all these younger guys ride regularly. They...
This is such a old fashion way of looking at the GPs. You have clearly not watched Gajser or all these younger guys ride regularly. They are wild on the bikes from lap one, i would say that Gajsers biggest weakness at the moment is the fact that he goes balls out 99% of the time.

I second Motofinne.

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flymoto 2/17/2017 3:19am
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Balls out is the only thing the guy knows. I know it's only a one off but Simpson did pretty well when he raced dilla. Didn't he end up with a 4th o/a? Considering that I think he could run at the front most rounds.
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Gajser is like the opposite of Roczen. Roczen is calm, smooth and precise while Gajser is grip it and rip it. Both works Smile
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davistld01 wrote:
Kenny came to America, and almost instantly "got it". He adjusted quickly to the American style of racing, being ultra aggressive and 100% on the gas...
Kenny came to America, and almost instantly "got it". He adjusted quickly to the American style of racing, being ultra aggressive and 100% on the gas from beginning to end...whereas Euro GP-style is more blitz-cruise-blitz with riders conserving energy for a push for the finish in the last few laps of a race. I don't believe Gajser can adapt as fast.
Motofinne wrote:
This is such a old fashion way of looking at the GPs. You have clearly not watched Gajser or all these younger guys ride regularly. They...
This is such a old fashion way of looking at the GPs. You have clearly not watched Gajser or all these younger guys ride regularly. They are wild on the bikes from lap one, i would say that Gajsers biggest weakness at the moment is the fact that he goes balls out 99% of the time.

sende wrote:
I second Motofinne.
I third. The GP series and even this Italian series that I don't totally understand has been really really exciting from the drop of the gate.
TG243 could come to the U.S. and rip, no doubt.
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Motofinne wrote:
This is such a old fashion way of looking at the GPs. You have clearly not watched Gajser or all these younger guys ride regularly. They...
This is such a old fashion way of looking at the GPs. You have clearly not watched Gajser or all these younger guys ride regularly. They are wild on the bikes from lap one, i would say that Gajsers biggest weakness at the moment is the fact that he goes balls out 99% of the time.

sende wrote:
I second Motofinne.
acres951 wrote:
I third. The GP series and even this Italian series that I don't totally understand has been really really exciting from the drop of the gate...
I third. The GP series and even this Italian series that I don't totally understand has been really really exciting from the drop of the gate.
TG243 could come to the U.S. and rip, no doubt.
I fourth. Whatever that means Tongue Im guessing it means agreeing or something.
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Tim Gajser is always "WFO" when he rides!!! He is stretching the throttle cable to the max, grabbing gears, and riding at a extremely fast pace the entire race. He is so determined, committed and hard charging to do one thing, to give his all to try and win every race he enters. He reminds me of Bob Hannah watching him ride, "wfo4ever" approves 100% on Tim Gajser's riding style "WFO". I would love to see Tim Gajser come to America to race the Outdoor Nationals. Supercross is just a Feld/Monster Energy Circus Show that puts all the riders in a very dangerous setting and I would hate to see Tim Gajser get hurt like KR94 and so many other top riders do every Supercross season. The Outdoor Nationals needs Tim Gajser and more top MXGP riders to make it even more exciting. Also a 125 2-stroke class would be an awesome addition to the Outdoor Nationals but that is for another thread.
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WillMX114 2/17/2017 6:02am
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I guess everyone forgot how he did when came over for the GP's last year? 1st year here he would do top 10 and Top 5 consistently and prb get a few wins at the "GP like tracks". Supercross Top 10 prb some top 5's may get lucky and get a win.
crusty_xx 2/17/2017 6:03am
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Gajser is one of the quickest learners ever. If you follow him closely, you can see that usually he makes a mistake only once. He pushes too hard too early in the first moto, realizes that it was bad, goes out and does the opposite in moto 2. The progress he has made only in the 2016 season is incredible.

That said, I'm a little concerned IF he comes to the US and instantly is thrown into the 450 SX class. Might be a smart thing to skip SX and concentrate on the nationals for the first season. I mean how big is the chance that he survives a 17-20 round series in that field in supercross when A1 is his first every proper supercross without any injuries?... 10%?
shaffstall721 2/17/2017 6:10am
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early wrote:
Have you watched Gajser race? Your comment is ridiculous.
shaffstall721 wrote:
Agreed, Gajser just kicked everyone's ass all year round and you "don't think he'd adapt" ? I will be very surprised it Gajser don't win the...
Agreed, Gajser just kicked everyone's ass all year round and you "don't think he'd adapt" ?

I will be very surprised it Gajser don't win the championship again.

Also he will adapt to the us even better than Roczen IMO. It took Roczen several years to win a championship, gajser could do it year 1.

With that being said, either he has been taking it easy in these Italian championship races or they don't have that new bike figured out yet. I hope it's the take it easy approach, cause he seems off.
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Year 1?? What kind of foreign weed are you smoking? Lol. Cmon man, not to take anything away from gajser but I don't see him getting...
Year 1?? What kind of foreign weed are you smoking? Lol. Cmon man, not to take anything away from gajser but I don't see him getting a win at all in year 1 if he comes here. Roczen, Dungey, Anderson, Webb, Reed, Tomac. Dudes who have ridden and raced US tracks year in and year out. Gajser getting a win is a long shot.
I would bet you $100.00 that Reed wouldn't be within ten seconds of Gajser in his FIRST moto in the US, it would probably be closer to 30 seconds if not more.

Thats not bashing reed, but Gasjer is a beast......

PS, when I wrote that comment I was sober, but I do have one of those new pens with the oil in it, its legit.
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motosurf 2/17/2017 7:36am
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shaffstall721 wrote:
Agreed, Gajser just kicked everyone's ass all year round and you "don't think he'd adapt" ? I will be very surprised it Gajser don't win the...
Agreed, Gajser just kicked everyone's ass all year round and you "don't think he'd adapt" ?

I will be very surprised it Gajser don't win the championship again.

Also he will adapt to the us even better than Roczen IMO. It took Roczen several years to win a championship, gajser could do it year 1.

With that being said, either he has been taking it easy in these Italian championship races or they don't have that new bike figured out yet. I hope it's the take it easy approach, cause he seems off.
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Year 1?? What kind of foreign weed are you smoking? Lol. Cmon man, not to take anything away from gajser but I don't see him getting...
Year 1?? What kind of foreign weed are you smoking? Lol. Cmon man, not to take anything away from gajser but I don't see him getting a win at all in year 1 if he comes here. Roczen, Dungey, Anderson, Webb, Reed, Tomac. Dudes who have ridden and raced US tracks year in and year out. Gajser getting a win is a long shot.
shaffstall721 wrote:
I would bet you $100.00 that Reed wouldn't be within ten seconds of Gajser in his FIRST moto in the US, it would probably be closer...
I would bet you $100.00 that Reed wouldn't be within ten seconds of Gajser in his FIRST moto in the US, it would probably be closer to 30 seconds if not more.

Thats not bashing reed, but Gasjer is a beast......

PS, when I wrote that comment I was sober, but I do have one of those new pens with the oil in it, its legit.
Lol those pens are bitchin I have one myself. Indoors id put reed infront gasjer. But that's just me.
shaffstall721 2/17/2017 7:39am
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motosurf wrote:
Year 1?? What kind of foreign weed are you smoking? Lol. Cmon man, not to take anything away from gajser but I don't see him getting...
Year 1?? What kind of foreign weed are you smoking? Lol. Cmon man, not to take anything away from gajser but I don't see him getting a win at all in year 1 if he comes here. Roczen, Dungey, Anderson, Webb, Reed, Tomac. Dudes who have ridden and raced US tracks year in and year out. Gajser getting a win is a long shot.
shaffstall721 wrote:
I would bet you $100.00 that Reed wouldn't be within ten seconds of Gajser in his FIRST moto in the US, it would probably be closer...
I would bet you $100.00 that Reed wouldn't be within ten seconds of Gajser in his FIRST moto in the US, it would probably be closer to 30 seconds if not more.

Thats not bashing reed, but Gasjer is a beast......

PS, when I wrote that comment I was sober, but I do have one of those new pens with the oil in it, its legit.
motosurf wrote:
Lol those pens are bitchin I have one myself. Indoors id put reed infront gasjer. But that's just me.
AH indoors, i was solely talking outdoors.

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1st Amendment 2/17/2017 7:45am
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He'll be in for a rude awakening SX. Kenny was riding SX early in his career so he was prepared.
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1st Amendment wrote:
He'll be in for a rude awakening SX. Kenny was riding SX early in his career so he was prepared.
Gajser is 20 years old. He has lots of time to get to his potential prime in SX.

For a bit of comparison. Jeremy Martin is 24 years old.
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1st Amendment wrote:
He'll be in for a rude awakening SX. Kenny was riding SX early in his career so he was prepared.
Motofinne wrote:
Gajser is 20 years old. He has lots of time to get to his potential prime in SX. For a bit of comparison. Jeremy Martin is...
Gajser is 20 years old. He has lots of time to get to his potential prime in SX.

For a bit of comparison. Jeremy Martin is 24 years old.
And Kenny is 21 or 22 and has been here for 5 years
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1st Amendment wrote:
He'll be in for a rude awakening SX. Kenny was riding SX early in his career so he was prepared.
Motofinne wrote:
Gajser is 20 years old. He has lots of time to get to his potential prime in SX. For a bit of comparison. Jeremy Martin is...
Gajser is 20 years old. He has lots of time to get to his potential prime in SX.

For a bit of comparison. Jeremy Martin is 24 years old.
rhargrave431 wrote:
And Kenny is 21 or 22 and has been here for 5 years
Yeah i know that Roczen is only 2 years older. I'm not saying that Gajser is going to do what Roczen has done. Roczen is a freak, a generational rider.

All i'm trying to say is that he is still extremely young and he has had a rapid development curve since he actually finished his school just 1-2 years ago if i remember right. He has had only 1 or 2 year with 100% focus on riding.

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crusty_xx 2/17/2017 8:37am
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1st Amendment wrote:
He'll be in for a rude awakening SX. Kenny was riding SX early in his career so he was prepared.
Motofinne wrote:
Gajser is 20 years old. He has lots of time to get to his potential prime in SX. For a bit of comparison. Jeremy Martin is...
Gajser is 20 years old. He has lots of time to get to his potential prime in SX.

For a bit of comparison. Jeremy Martin is 24 years old.
rhargrave431 wrote:
And Kenny is 21 or 22 and has been here for 5 years
Joel smets began riding a motorcycle with 17 years old and became one of the fastest guys on the planet
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rhargrave431 2/17/2017 8:38am
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Motofinne wrote:
Gajser is 20 years old. He has lots of time to get to his potential prime in SX. For a bit of comparison. Jeremy Martin is...
Gajser is 20 years old. He has lots of time to get to his potential prime in SX.

For a bit of comparison. Jeremy Martin is 24 years old.
rhargrave431 wrote:
And Kenny is 21 or 22 and has been here for 5 years
Motofinne wrote:
Yeah i know that Roczen is only 2 years older. I'm not saying that Gajser is going to do what Roczen has done. Roczen is a...
Yeah i know that Roczen is only 2 years older. I'm not saying that Gajser is going to do what Roczen has done. Roczen is a freak, a generational rider.

All i'm trying to say is that he is still extremely young and he has had a rapid development curve since he actually finished his school just 1-2 years ago if i remember right. He has had only 1 or 2 year with 100% focus on riding.
No I agree 100 percent. They are both world class talents.
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Must ask. Why do you all think, he would do Nationals in US, if he decide to go across the pond?

To be US national champion? Is that what you think "the ultimate motivation"?

He is focused only in SX. That is the only thing in his career to accomplish. 2 years to do it, 5 years, it doesn't matter. He is Young.
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Arni wrote:
Must ask. Why do you all think, he would do Nationals in US, if he decide to go across the pond? To be US national champion...
Must ask. Why do you all think, he would do Nationals in US, if he decide to go across the pond?

To be US national champion? Is that what you think "the ultimate motivation"?

He is focused only in SX. That is the only thing in his career to accomplish. 2 years to do it, 5 years, it doesn't matter. He is Young.
Because if he is doing supercross here Honda will probably politely ask him to race the nationals as well.
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Arni wrote:
Must ask. Why do you all think, he would do Nationals in US, if he decide to go across the pond? To be US national champion...
Must ask. Why do you all think, he would do Nationals in US, if he decide to go across the pond?

To be US national champion? Is that what you think "the ultimate motivation"?

He is focused only in SX. That is the only thing in his career to accomplish. 2 years to do it, 5 years, it doesn't matter. He is Young.
Why wouldn't he want to be a national champ?? You're the problem with motocross right now.
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I would bet you $100.00 that Reed wouldn't be within ten seconds of Gajser in his FIRST moto in the US, it would probably be closer...
I would bet you $100.00 that Reed wouldn't be within ten seconds of Gajser in his FIRST moto in the US, it would probably be closer to 30 seconds if not more.

Thats not bashing reed, but Gasjer is a beast......

PS, when I wrote that comment I was sober, but I do have one of those new pens with the oil in it, its legit.
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Lol those pens are bitchin I have one myself. Indoors id put reed infront gasjer. But that's just me.
shaffstall721 wrote:
AH indoors, i was solely talking outdoors.

:D
Its possible we dont see Reed race outdoors ever again.
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The weather could be the single biggest factor, a hot 2018 would derail a Gasjer season until he gets acclimated.
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The MXGP guys don't run as fast the AMA guys imo. See Roczen for the first 2 seasons here.

However, the top talent guys will quickly adapt, also see Roczen.

Gajser would also need to adapt but would excel for sure given time.
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I totally agree, and it's based on my opinion only. I'm all for good racing though, so I hope I'm wrong & Tim comes over and...
I totally agree, and it's based on my opinion only. I'm all for good racing though, so I hope I'm wrong & Tim comes over and kicks butt! Smile
I don't really feel you can compare the two seeing as how Tim will be coming into the 450 class. Going to be way more difficult than it was for Ken IMO. I think Tim will adapt well given a year to figure out SX. The guy has serious skills.
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The MXGP guys don't run as fast the AMA guys imo. See Roczen for the first 2 seasons here. However, the top talent guys will quickly...
The MXGP guys don't run as fast the AMA guys imo. See Roczen for the first 2 seasons here.

However, the top talent guys will quickly adapt, also see Roczen.

Gajser would also need to adapt but would excel for sure given time.
From year 2 on Roczen at worse has been the second best guy in MX when 100% healthy.
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Arni wrote:
Must ask. Why do you all think, he would do Nationals in US, if he decide to go across the pond? To be US national champion...
Must ask. Why do you all think, he would do Nationals in US, if he decide to go across the pond?

To be US national champion? Is that what you think "the ultimate motivation"?

He is focused only in SX. That is the only thing in his career to accomplish. 2 years to do it, 5 years, it doesn't matter. He is Young.
So he is coming over to race 4 months? What will he do for the rest of the year? Can you share your source?
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Has he practiced in a real SX track? dont think i've seen a video of it. I think he would be making a mistake coming over, SX is brutal and there is more racing involved here in the states. In the GPs hes a top guy, he would make more money over there and have a longer career. my 2 cents

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