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RG1 1/22/2017 3:28am
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Anyone think possible shock malfunction? Just a thought, seemed to rebound awful fast
Crush wrote:
Went long and fast into a rutted soft transition full of ruts... Usually doesn't end well.
Yeah, watched a few more times. Definitely just a kicker and possibly a bit off balance too
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PEPE001 1/22/2017 3:29am
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Mx286 wrote:
You guys saying his cockiness is what got him are just flat out stupid. Hit a kicker and shit like that just happens. Hope he heals...
You guys saying his cockiness is what got him are just flat out stupid. Hit a kicker and shit like that just happens. Hope he heals up quick.
IceMan446 wrote:
A kicker??? The line he took was smooth, the transition is what bucked him. His fault just like it was at MEC He can't beat Dungey...
A kicker???

The line he took was smooth, the transition is what bucked him.

His fault just like it was at MEC

He can't beat Dungey over an entire season in SX and that's life man.
Do you ride?

It was. not like MEC.

And listen to Dungeys interview right after the race. He confirmed those kIckers
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Prntscrn 1/22/2017 3:34am
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It sucks but it's true he got a history of making these type of crashes. Looks to be in complete control and bam he hits the ground hard again. Hope he's back soon
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Crush 1/22/2017 3:36am
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RG1 wrote:
Yeah, watched a few more times. Definitely just a kicker and possibly a bit off balance too
Crazy too, he looked like he might have settled for 3rd or a chance at 2nd, didn't look frantic.

Fucking Dungey man. Freak. 2006 debut. A concussion, a broken collarbone and a fractured vertabrae. Dude's a damn metronome, unbelievable how consistently fast he is, puts the others against the wall for sure.

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brash 1/22/2017 3:36am
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I cant help but wonder what might have happened if he didn't throw it/step through the bars and maybe tried riding it out?

Purely one of those "what if" scenarios, could maybe have fluked it and rode on, or KO himself and end up way worse than a broken arm.

Sucks to see anyway, Hoping that Marvin can taste the blood in the water (no pun intended) and goes out swinging.
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TogaSet 1/22/2017 3:41am
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At least he got to wear that sweet ass suit before he crashed himself out of the series.
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jamma10 1/22/2017 3:45am
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At least he got to wear that sweet ass suit before he crashed himself out of the series.
Fuck it, cant be assed.
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burnside 1/22/2017 3:58am
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Ah man, gutted!

If that race post Roczen's crash is any indicator for the rest of the season, we are in for an utter snooze fest.
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steed 2.0 1/22/2017 4:19am
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Damn this sucks!... Wishing you a speedy recovery Ken
Moens_Andy 1/22/2017 4:36am
1/22/2017 4:36am
First off i'm super gutted for Ken and bummed in general for the series. But most of all i'm just angry at the idiots calling out shit like this " i told you so " and "snoozefest for the rest of the season" Or other ridiculous statements.

ALL those riders out there risk there live and limbs on any given time and track. NOBODY should get hurt or want to see someone else get hurt, this sport is already super brutal.

Speedy recovery Ken hope you get well soon and can come back strong.
Congratz Ryan on the win.

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downard254 1/22/2017 4:46am
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I wouldn't want my most hated adversary to take a hit like that. Watching that crash made my gut hurt. None of these guys on the track should take a hit like that. I watched it several times and it looked like when the bike kicked, the seat bumped him in the ass that started him over the bars. There was no coming back from that. Hope he heals up soon, it was definitely more exciting watching the racing with him in it.
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thehenk 1/22/2017 4:58am
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brash wrote:
I cant help but wonder what might have happened if he didn't throw it/step through the bars and maybe tried riding it out? Purely one of...
I cant help but wonder what might have happened if he didn't throw it/step through the bars and maybe tried riding it out?

Purely one of those "what if" scenarios, could maybe have fluked it and rode on, or KO himself and end up way worse than a broken arm.

Sucks to see anyway, Hoping that Marvin can taste the blood in the water (no pun intended) and goes out swinging.
I was thinking the same thing, looked to me like he committed to let go way to early. i think if he stayed on the bike his front suspension would have taking most of the hit
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RG1 1/22/2017 5:04am
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brash wrote:
I cant help but wonder what might have happened if he didn't throw it/step through the bars and maybe tried riding it out? Purely one of...
I cant help but wonder what might have happened if he didn't throw it/step through the bars and maybe tried riding it out?

Purely one of those "what if" scenarios, could maybe have fluked it and rode on, or KO himself and end up way worse than a broken arm.

Sucks to see anyway, Hoping that Marvin can taste the blood in the water (no pun intended) and goes out swinging.
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I was thinking the same thing, looked to me like he committed to let go way to early. i think if he stayed on the bike...
I was thinking the same thing, looked to me like he committed to let go way to early. i think if he stayed on the bike his front suspension would have taking most of the hit
I thought that myself. I think possibly the bike kicked him on the take off and pushed his weight so far forward that he couldn't ride it out. Super weird crash
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LoudLove 1/22/2017 5:09am
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Barring a mechanical failure, any single-bike accident falls at the feet of the rider. Kicker or no kicker, it was a known element of risk that factored into Ken's racing calculations.

Question is, will Roczen adopt a more conservative strategy upon his return? He needs only to look at James Stewart to understand the risk of being FMOTP at every race.
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Zalev 1/22/2017 5:12am
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That was so sad and painful to watch. I broke the same arm couple years ago. I don't even want to know what was going through his mind after that crash.

It could be such a great season for him and spectators, it will hurt even Dungey as he lost maybe last chance to finally won a title in straight fight.

Hopefully JS7 is coming back soon, he will bring some excitment back for sure.
Andy_Greenney 1/22/2017 5:15am
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RG1 wrote:
Anyone think possible shock malfunction? Just a thought, seemed to rebound awful fast
Looked like it was soft at the bottom of the take offs, scooped out. Looked like he got a bit of a kick the lap before but held it.
Shame he didn't launch a couple meters further and land on the downside. Wouldn't say he was 'on the edge' just 'one of those' mistakes
Andy_Greenney 1/22/2017 5:18am
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LoudLove wrote:
Barring a mechanical failure, any single-bike accident falls at the feet of the rider. Kicker or no kicker, it was a known element of risk that...
Barring a mechanical failure, any single-bike accident falls at the feet of the rider. Kicker or no kicker, it was a known element of risk that factored into Ken's racing calculations.

Question is, will Roczen adopt a more conservative strategy upon his return? He needs only to look at James Stewart to understand the risk of being FMOTP at every race.
JS7 getting t-boned by Dungey might disagree with you on that, there is an element of unknown and s**t happens when racing/riding
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matze 1/22/2017 5:24am
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he looked kinda sketchy from the beginning of the race... Something was wrong. Pretty sure he paniced after his bad start, but at the same time he made a lot of passes and there was no reason at all to push that hard he was already in 3rd place and that alone wouldve been impressive to me. But man, I feel so bad for him...
Congrats to dungey btw...

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tempura 1/22/2017 5:29am
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I'm not sure if he bailed early or his feet were simply bucked off the pegs with no way of recovery??
Some of the smug and half veiled comments I've been reading on Vital are utterly disgusting.
Jmicmoto13 1/22/2017 5:36am
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I'm not sure if he bailed early or his feet were simply bucked off the pegs with no way of recovery?? Some of the smug and...
I'm not sure if he bailed early or his feet were simply bucked off the pegs with no way of recovery??
Some of the smug and half veiled comments I've been reading on Vital are utterly disgusting.
Oh just chill out. There aren't any half veiled digs or smug comments about Roczen. He wrecked ina terrible manner and that sucks for everyone. He was on a blistering pace and looked great. The fact of the matter, and the original point I was trying to make, was that he set this unstoppable, invincible expectation before the season. 2 races in he looked untouchable, no doubt about it. But his weekly Aldon stabs, not thinly veiled mind you, got his ego way out of whack along with other comments. Now, his ego is not the reason he crashed. I wish Ken a speedy recovery as the racing was much better with him!
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1-forty-8 1/22/2017 5:37am
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Gutted to say the least. Gutted for Kenny and I hope he heals up fast, gutted for us cos the championship is over. Lasted all of 3 rounds.
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eb313 1/22/2017 5:41am
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First off I want to say that I hate this for Ken, or any rider that wads up for that matter.

Kroc looked extremely frantic on lap two with a few mistakes and pulling a tear-off like he hated it. He made a few more mistakes in the latter laps but actually seemed to have calmed down a bit by the time he was bucked off.

I have read many of the comments and watched the video over and over. From my point of view, he was in the process of being ejected when he made the decision to bail out....allowing him (right or wrong) to partially choose how he was going to impact. Kicker, plain and simple. He was thrown up and lost contact with the bike so he really had no choice but to bail......or become a flying W. I had a similar experience on a big tabletop but I wasn't thrown up like that, I hit a false neutral and couldn't get the back end to come down and endoed.
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TDeath21 1/22/2017 5:42am
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Just at the moment when you thought it could be A3 2001, it turned into High Point 2006.
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LoudLove 1/22/2017 5:54am
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Andy_Greenney wrote:
JS7 getting t-boned by Dungey might disagree with you on that, there is an element of unknown and s**t happens when racing/riding
Hence the phrase "single-bike accident"...
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dmac1 1/22/2017 6:21am
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gnarwhip wrote:
Assholes saying "I told you so, I knew this was gonna happen, that's what he gets" you are the biggest scumbags. Really pissed me off when...
Assholes saying "I told you so, I knew this was gonna happen, that's what he gets" you are the biggest scumbags. Really pissed me off when Dungey "thanked the lord for keeping us safe". Wtf? As Ken goes to the er with serious injuries.
Where do you get off criticizing Dungey for his post race comments? He says that every week! He is talking about himself even though he uses the word 'us'. I believe he uses 'us' because its the entire team he is talking for.

As for Ken...you wanna know what I thought at the start of the season? I thought 'if he doesn't have a big crash'...

I agree, though, that anyone who thinks 'thats what he gets' for being confident or whatever is a scumbag.
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reynardfan1 1/22/2017 6:36am
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Huevos wrote:
All I know is that he came into the season with flashy statements and dissing his former trainer, and now his season is over while the...
All I know is that he came into the season with flashy statements and dissing his former trainer, and now his season is over while the guy with his former trainer is now in the points lead.
JM485 wrote:
You have to be kidding me with this shit, he hit a kicker, it happens. The guy just splatted himself in one of the worst crashes...
You have to be kidding me with this shit, he hit a kicker, it happens.

The guy just splatted himself in one of the worst crashes I've ever seen and before he's even into surgery the vitards are already kicking him when he's down, some of you seriously need to have some respect and compassion for people.
kiwifan wrote:
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ever been in a js7 thread over the last few years??? People line up for that shit and he never got in social media fights like a 13yr old...so yeah KR94 is gonna get this type of reaction..
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PRM31 1/22/2017 6:43am
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I hope he heals soon and we see him outdoors.

I don't see a connection with his confidence, bordering on cockiness. Hasn't he pretty much crashed himself out nearly every year? Definitely has speed, but he has not found the speed he can maintain for a season.
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Racer111 1/22/2017 6:45am
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If anyone will notice, he didn't over jump the plateau. It honestly looks to me as though he just chopped the throttle too early. In the close up slow mo replay, there are no ruts or kickers on the left side.

He simply just got off the gas too soon. That's all it was.
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Mx286 1/22/2017 8:29am
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You guys saying his cockiness is what got him are just flat out stupid. Hit a kicker and shit like that just happens. Hope he heals...
You guys saying his cockiness is what got him are just flat out stupid. Hit a kicker and shit like that just happens. Hope he heals up quick.
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All I know is that he came into the season with flashy statements and dissing his former trainer, and now his season is over while the...
All I know is that he came into the season with flashy statements and dissing his former trainer, and now his season is over while the guy with his former trainer is now in the points lead.
Lol dude get out of here with that nonsense. It's a racing incident not because he was too cocky or over confident or because he was talking shit to people at the beginning of the season. When you go as fast as he does the slightest mistakes can cost huge. And all of those guys out there make mistakes. Go back and watch Millsap's in the same section towards the end on the same jump get out of whack.
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Mx286 1/22/2017 8:35am
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You guys saying his cockiness is what got him are just flat out stupid. Hit a kicker and shit like that just happens. Hope he heals...
You guys saying his cockiness is what got him are just flat out stupid. Hit a kicker and shit like that just happens. Hope he heals up quick.
IceMan446 wrote:
A kicker??? The line he took was smooth, the transition is what bucked him. His fault just like it was at MEC He can't beat Dungey...
A kicker???

The line he took was smooth, the transition is what bucked him.

His fault just like it was at MEC

He can't beat Dungey over an entire season in SX and that's life man.
That track was chewed up pretty bad. Once he took of the jump the backend imideatiely kicked up and his feet started to come off the pegs.

MEC he cased the jump before which got him out of rhythm. Last night he didn't case the jump before he just got bucked.

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