AMA not letting Roczen ride a two stroke!

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Check out this weeks racerhead where there is a write up on Roczen trying to ride the last model year of the RM 250 and the bullshit AMA, who should have the moto publics best interest, shuts him down!

http://racerxonline.com/2016/08/26/racerhead-35

Come on AMA! SMH
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Maybe Cooper will race a YZ125
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Rules are a thing Pinch

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What ? Wait No, I didn't hear that!
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As much as it would be "awesome" to see him out ripping on a 2 stroke, rules are rules. If you allow him to break the rules this one time, where do you draw the line for future instances where people want to do something "awesome"? It sucks ass, but I agree with the call.

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I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI

I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE RACES AGEN NEXT YEAR. I HOPE MIKE WEBB BRINGS BACK BRAKE AND MATT SO THEY HAVE ONE RIDER THATS FORM TEXAS.

THIS GUY AND ME GOTS THE SAME NAME I HOAP THAT NEXT YEAR HE RIDE SUSZUKI. DO U GUYS NOW IF HE IS FORM TEXAS???


THE FIRST TIME I EVER RIDE WITH TARE OFFS AT CYCUL RANCH ANTOHER BIG BIKE COVERD ME IN MUD AND I GO INTO A TURN WITH BIG BRAKING BUMPS AND TRY TO PULL IT BUT THE BIKE BARS GOD SIDE TO SIDE REAL FAST I REMEMBER AN I CRASH IN THE TURN.




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Moto810 8/26/2016 5:47pm
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This was talked about on some other threads. Here is what I know about the rules so far.

It is NOT the AMA doing this. They do not sanction the Pro nationals last time I checked.

The logo you see and they are referring to is the AMA Pro Racing logo. That logo is owned by Daytona Motorsports Group. They purchased the rights to the Pro Nationals years ago.

The AMA in Ohio has no say in the rules for Pro National motocross. The only connection as we all learned with JS7 is that the AMA in Ohio is the group that issues the rider license.


So unless anything has changed and I don't think it has there are two different AMA's. AMA (Ohio) runs Amateur motocross rules and AMA Pro Racing (DMG) runs the rules for Pro Motocross. They are NOT connected and when you pay your dues it goes to AMA Ohio.


SX has nothing to do with this at all! That is a whole different story.

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500guy wrote:
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE...
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI

I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE RACES AGEN NEXT YEAR. I HOPE MIKE WEBB BRINGS BACK BRAKE AND MATT SO THEY HAVE ONE RIDER THATS FORM TEXAS.

THIS GUY AND ME GOTS THE SAME NAME I HOAP THAT NEXT YEAR HE RIDE SUSZUKI. DO U GUYS NOW IF HE IS FORM TEXAS???


THE FIRST TIME I EVER RIDE WITH TARE OFFS AT CYCUL RANCH ANTOHER BIG BIKE COVERD ME IN MUD AND I GO INTO A TURN WITH BIG BRAKING BUMPS AND TRY TO PULL IT BUT THE BIKE BARS GOD SIDE TO SIDE REAL FAST I REMEMBER AN I CRASH IN THE TURN.




HAR!
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500guy wrote:
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE...
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI

I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE RACES AGEN NEXT YEAR. I HOPE MIKE WEBB BRINGS BACK BRAKE AND MATT SO THEY HAVE ONE RIDER THATS FORM TEXAS.

THIS GUY AND ME GOTS THE SAME NAME I HOAP THAT NEXT YEAR HE RIDE SUSZUKI. DO U GUYS NOW IF HE IS FORM TEXAS???


THE FIRST TIME I EVER RIDE WITH TARE OFFS AT CYCUL RANCH ANTOHER BIG BIKE COVERD ME IN MUD AND I GO INTO A TURN WITH BIG BRAKING BUMPS AND TRY TO PULL IT BUT THE BIKE BARS GOD SIDE TO SIDE REAL FAST I REMEMBER AN I CRASH IN THE TURN.




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500guy wrote:
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE...
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI

I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE RACES AGEN NEXT YEAR. I HOPE MIKE WEBB BRINGS BACK BRAKE AND MATT SO THEY HAVE ONE RIDER THATS FORM TEXAS.

THIS GUY AND ME GOTS THE SAME NAME I HOAP THAT NEXT YEAR HE RIDE SUSZUKI. DO U GUYS NOW IF HE IS FORM TEXAS???


THE FIRST TIME I EVER RIDE WITH TARE OFFS AT CYCUL RANCH ANTOHER BIG BIKE COVERD ME IN MUD AND I GO INTO A TURN WITH BIG BRAKING BUMPS AND TRY TO PULL IT BUT THE BIKE BARS GOD SIDE TO SIDE REAL FAST I REMEMBER AN I CRASH IN THE TURN.




I hate when that happens
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cmotodad 8/26/2016 6:42pm
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BOO, that would have been fun to watch. Why should a bike need to be approved more that once? I'm sure it was in 2008 or 5 years earlier..
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MY MY MY MOMMMAS GUNNA TELL GUYB!!!
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burn1986 8/26/2016 6:48pm
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Wow, imagine that - DC and the AMA having something negative in regards to 2 strokes. LOL

We knew his bike wouldn't meet homologation, but its just funny that someone thought it was newsworthy. You can read back and see DC, the AMA, and Honda's stance on 2-strokes and where they are headed.

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500guy wrote:
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE...
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI

I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE RACES AGEN NEXT YEAR. I HOPE MIKE WEBB BRINGS BACK BRAKE AND MATT SO THEY HAVE ONE RIDER THATS FORM TEXAS.

THIS GUY AND ME GOTS THE SAME NAME I HOAP THAT NEXT YEAR HE RIDE SUSZUKI. DO U GUYS NOW IF HE IS FORM TEXAS???


THE FIRST TIME I EVER RIDE WITH TARE OFFS AT CYCUL RANCH ANTOHER BIG BIKE COVERD ME IN MUD AND I GO INTO A TURN WITH BIG BRAKING BUMPS AND TRY TO PULL IT BUT THE BIKE BARS GOD SIDE TO SIDE REAL FAST I REMEMBER AN I CRASH IN THE TURN.




Gee thanks Tyler......
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IM PROTZING TWOONITE

N DOOING SUM WHELYS N SMOKNN MY X33 ON MY 2T SUSZUKI

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Just as an FYI...

Yes, they're building him up a two-stroke, but the bike isn't even done, and is sitting in Chino, CA. The engine has been at Pro Circuit for a while.

I'm not sure how he'd have raced a non-functional bike that's in California while he's here in Indiana, but carry on...
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Why the CAPS?
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500guy wrote:
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE...
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI

I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE RACES AGEN NEXT YEAR. I HOPE MIKE WEBB BRINGS BACK BRAKE AND MATT SO THEY HAVE ONE RIDER THATS FORM TEXAS.

THIS GUY AND ME GOTS THE SAME NAME I HOAP THAT NEXT YEAR HE RIDE SUSZUKI. DO U GUYS NOW IF HE IS FORM TEXAS???


THE FIRST TIME I EVER RIDE WITH TARE OFFS AT CYCUL RANCH ANTOHER BIG BIKE COVERD ME IN MUD AND I GO INTO A TURN WITH BIG BRAKING BUMPS AND TRY TO PULL IT BUT THE BIKE BARS GOD SIDE TO SIDE REAL FAST I REMEMBER AN I CRASH IN THE TURN.




You must have been howm skulled.

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NorcalVet wrote:
IM PROTZING TWOONITE N DOOING SUM WHELYS N SMOKNN MY X33 ON MY 2T SUSZUKI [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/08/26/148633/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
IM PROTZING TWOONITE

N DOOING SUM WHELYS N SMOKNN MY X33 ON MY 2T SUSZUKI

Woooooooza those are good luck owing steeds in your garage NorcalVet #madjelly
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NorcalVet wrote:
IM PROTZING TWOONITE N DOOING SUM WHELYS N SMOKNN MY X33 ON MY 2T SUSZUKI [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/08/26/148633/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
IM PROTZING TWOONITE

N DOOING SUM WHELYS N SMOKNN MY X33 ON MY 2T SUSZUKI

Those are some sweet rides. I can't see if you will ever need to buy another bike. Smile
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NorcalVet wrote:
IM PROTZING TWOONITE N DOOING SUM WHELYS N SMOKNN MY X33 ON MY 2T SUSZUKI [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/08/26/148633/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
IM PROTZING TWOONITE

N DOOING SUM WHELYS N SMOKNN MY X33 ON MY 2T SUSZUKI

What's under the car cover? And how did you get your garage floor so shiny?
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NorcalVet wrote:
IM PROTZING TWOONITE N DOOING SUM WHELYS N SMOKNN MY X33 ON MY 2T SUSZUKI [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/08/26/148633/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
IM PROTZING TWOONITE

N DOOING SUM WHELYS N SMOKNN MY X33 ON MY 2T SUSZUKI

rrjr wrote:
What's under the car cover? And how did you get your garage floor so shiny?
Looks like he washed his bikes inside bro. Unsure
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Just as an FYI... Yes, they're building him up a two-stroke, but the bike isn't even done, and is sitting in Chino, CA. The engine has...
Just as an FYI...

Yes, they're building him up a two-stroke, but the bike isn't even done, and is sitting in Chino, CA. The engine has been at Pro Circuit for a while.

I'm not sure how he'd have raced a non-functional bike that's in California while he's here in Indiana, but carry on...
Is it possible that Kenny races the two stroke at the Edge of Summer race coming up?

http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/ArtistPage/EdgeofSummerMX.aspx
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500guy wrote:
What ? Wait No, I didn't hear that!
You're right Jay....I haven't heard that!!
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I say a big fat conspiracy! Model year is too old to race? Is it a safety hazard or detrimental to the sport?.. no way. It still needs to go through tech for safety. It is pushed by the manufacturers to faciltate selling the new model bikes. Nothing else. I can understand the manufacturers' perspectives, but that is not the place of a racing association whose job is to ensure fair and safe racing rules. This is undue influence on a racing association by a private commercial body and also inapproproate behavior for a racing association whose role should not be to promote the commerical interests of private companies. It goes against the interests of the fans which is against the promotion of the sport, itself.

I will now step down from my soap box but I mean every word of the above.
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500guy wrote:
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE...
I THINK MIKE WEB GET REAL PROWD OF THIS GUY FOR WIN THE TITLE FOR SUSZUKI

I THINK A GOOD OFFSEASIN THAT SUSZUKI CAN WIN THE RACES AGEN NEXT YEAR. I HOPE MIKE WEBB BRINGS BACK BRAKE AND MATT SO THEY HAVE ONE RIDER THATS FORM TEXAS.

THIS GUY AND ME GOTS THE SAME NAME I HOAP THAT NEXT YEAR HE RIDE SUSZUKI. DO U GUYS NOW IF HE IS FORM TEXAS???


THE FIRST TIME I EVER RIDE WITH TARE OFFS AT CYCUL RANCH ANTOHER BIG BIKE COVERD ME IN MUD AND I GO INTO A TURN WITH BIG BRAKING BUMPS AND TRY TO PULL IT BUT THE BIKE BARS GOD SIDE TO SIDE REAL FAST I REMEMBER AN I CRASH IN THE TURN.




GuyB wrote:
You must have been howm skulled.
I'm not sharp enough to come up with this gem, I just copy and pasted several Tyler posts.
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They would not let Bubs race either. Rules are rules!
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rrjr wrote:
What's under the car cover? And how did you get your garage floor so shiny?
my OG girl

and my free detailer Smile

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I think we should make another thread about it.
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
I say a big fat conspiracy! Model year is too old to race? Is it a safety hazard or detrimental to the sport?.. no way. It...
I say a big fat conspiracy! Model year is too old to race? Is it a safety hazard or detrimental to the sport?.. no way. It still needs to go through tech for safety. It is pushed by the manufacturers to faciltate selling the new model bikes. Nothing else. I can understand the manufacturers' perspectives, but that is not the place of a racing association whose job is to ensure fair and safe racing rules. This is undue influence on a racing association by a private commercial body and also inapproproate behavior for a racing association whose role should not be to promote the commerical interests of private companies. It goes against the interests of the fans which is against the promotion of the sport, itself.

I will now step down from my soap box but I mean every word of the above.
Stepped down off that soap box or not....it's 100% truth. It's also a stupid rule that needs to be re-written. The manufactures have way to much leverage on the actual racing organizations now days. They we're strong enough to basically push them out of "Our " sport....and they also have the power to keep people in the pro class from racing one.

At the very root of it , I mean the very root......it's the manufactures that don't want to see an older bike out there beating any of their new machines. It gets people thinking " Why do I need a $10,000 4 stroke when that 10yr old 2 stroke just smoked it? "

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