Blue flag.....

2/27/2016 7:21pm
mellonhs wrote:
Actually it means hold your line.... Watch the replay before you start talking shit.

I initially thought it was stews fault too until the replay played....
swtwtwtw wrote:
it means do not impede the leaders about to lap you. that is what it means.
mellonhs wrote:
I posted the rule there bud... read it. We are both right and stewart didnt impede anyone. You must first hold your line... Thats the only...
I posted the rule there bud... read it. We are both right and stewart didnt impede anyone. You must first hold your line... Thats the only way to not impede someone in that situation. He was on the far left of the track... What would you like him to do? Cross jump to the middle? I believe that would have impeded more than HOLDING YOUR LINE like the rule says for you to do.
I guess you didn't see the point where he crowded the main line in the corner before the rhythm.
2/27/2016 7:23pm
revmx wrote:
Marv cased it end of story.
Why didn't Marvin take the line he had been all night in the corner before?

Maybe because Big James was in it.
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2/27/2016 7:25pm
@DavidVuillemin If you think James had nothing to do with it (as I get a lot of tweets saying that), you're high & your FS1 tv package should be removed
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2/27/2016 7:26pm
ocscottie wrote:
[b]@DavidVuillemin[/b] If you think James had nothing to do with it (as I get a lot of tweets saying that), you're high & your FS1 tv...
@DavidVuillemin If you think James had nothing to do with it (as I get a lot of tweets saying that), you're high & your FS1 tv package should be removed
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2/27/2016 7:26pm Edited Date/Time 2/27/2016 7:35pm
mellonhs wrote:
Actually it means hold your line.... Watch the replay before you start talking shit.

I initially thought it was stews fault too until the replay played....
swtwtwtw wrote:
it means do not impede the leaders about to lap you. that is what it means.
No shit! what does the rule say, that mellohns posted, before hold your line? Hint* it's the second bullet point and says.....when conditions allow, move outta the fast line. Stew got the blue flag over the finish line and he could have easily gone down the far left in the whoops, throttle down a little bit, and rolled the bottom in that corner to stay outta the fast/race line.

Unreal, the JS7 fanboi's are saying this was 100% MM fault, he cased that jump and that was all his fault. Sure, a jump he'd been doing all all day with no issues at all whatsoever, he just decided to case it on lap 19 while leading with no help from anyone else...riiiiiiiiight.
2/27/2016 7:30pm
Give Big James a break, guys.

He had Vince Friese breathing down his neck.
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2/27/2016 7:31pm
coop8878 wrote:
You guys that are blaming Stewart apparently didn't watch the replays he held his line but I still believe blue flags are for pussies...some people are...
You guys that are blaming Stewart apparently didn't watch the replays he held his line but I still believe blue flags are for pussies...some people are fucktards though
Especially lappers that affect the outcome of a great race.
Stew wasn't racing anyone for position at that moment.
A little roll off the throttle would have been very respectful to the leaders.
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2/27/2016 7:31pm
In otherness Suzuki Yoshimura got some press today lol
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2/27/2016 7:33pm
quick question for the guys defending james...has he ever made a mistake out there on the track, done something dumb, or pulled a boneheaded move? if so, when? just curious....
2/27/2016 7:46pm
Why the heck does Stewart all of a sudden decide to turn on the gas...He's running slow enough to get lapped then all of a sudden...
Why the heck does Stewart all of a sudden decide to turn on the gas...He's running slow enough to get lapped then all of a sudden he decides to turn the juice back on. Marvin must have been thinking..."what the hell is this guy going to do?"
Were you at the race? Or on the couch? Cause obviously you didn't see the same race that I saw.

Stew was a holding a pretty good pace the whole race, especially being his first race back and only race he has gotten a full 20 in.

So get off the keyboard and stop typing about shit you havent a clue on!!!
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2/27/2016 7:59pm
Stewart does no wrong...EVER! Always hating on a black dude bunch of damn hillbillies
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2/27/2016 8:08pm
TripleFive wrote:
Give Big James a break, guys.

He had Vince Friese breathing down his neck.
You mean "Big Lenny"?
2/27/2016 8:10pm Edited Date/Time 2/27/2016 8:21pm
Why the heck does Stewart all of a sudden decide to turn on the gas...He's running slow enough to get lapped then all of a sudden...
Why the heck does Stewart all of a sudden decide to turn on the gas...He's running slow enough to get lapped then all of a sudden he decides to turn the juice back on. Marvin must have been thinking..."what the hell is this guy going to do?"
Were you at the race? Or on the couch? Cause obviously you didn't see the same race that I saw. Stew was a holding a pretty...
Were you at the race? Or on the couch? Cause obviously you didn't see the same race that I saw.

Stew was a holding a pretty good pace the whole race, especially being his first race back and only race he has gotten a full 20 in.

So get off the keyboard and stop typing about shit you havent a clue on!!!
I apologize...just where were you exactly on starting line?...you make the main straight up or have to go through the LCQ. Looks like you have good internet service there in Atlanta. You wireless Bro?

You don't really believe that Stewart made any effort to let the leaders by.
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2/27/2016 9:03pm
Sully22 wrote:
quick question for the guys defending james...has he ever made a mistake out there on the track, done something dumb, or pulled a boneheaded move? if...
quick question for the guys defending james...has he ever made a mistake out there on the track, done something dumb, or pulled a boneheaded move? if so, when? just curious....
All the time, but not today.
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2/27/2016 9:04pm
Since there are 3 threads on this topic, I'll post this here too.

For the record, whenever anyone says lapped riders should pull over and get out of the way, they are pulling that out of their butt. The rules say hold your line, don't cross over, just hold your line.

If riders pull over when they see a blue flag, that's their decision, but it is not what the blue flag requires.

Stewart did it right. He turned the corner, then took the far left line and stayed there. He held his line. There was plenty of room for everyone else.

Marvin should be mad only that he screwed up under pressure.
It was a great ride for him. This week he did not get it done. He should own up to it, and come back strong next week.

BTW: I went riding today at Pala, and it was awesome! I had to throw that in there.
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2/27/2016 9:11pm
Can someone post blue flag rules a few more times? Or maybe a bear holding a blue flag and the AMA rule book.
2/27/2016 9:14pm
mellonhs wrote:
Actually it means hold your line.... Watch the replay before you start talking shit.

I initially thought it was stews fault too until the replay played....
Actually, it doesnt JUST say that, notice part 2, he had time to move.

a. Solid Blue Flag :
1. Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster riders.
2. When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.
3. Hold your line (don’t ride erratically) and do not impede the
faster riders progress.

The guy has been in that situation enough times to know he needs to get out of the way of a battle for lead.
2/27/2016 9:17pm
toroP wrote:
Can someone post blue flag rules a few more times? Or maybe a bear holding a blue flag and the AMA rule book.
a. Solid Blue Flag :
1. Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster riders.
2. When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.
3. Hold your line (don’t ride erratically) and do not impede the
faster riders progress.



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2/27/2016 9:29pm
toroP wrote:
Can someone post blue flag rules a few more times? Or maybe a bear holding a blue flag and the AMA rule book.
UpTiTe wrote:
a. Solid Blue Flag : 1. Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster riders. 2. When conditions allow, move out of the fast line...
a. Solid Blue Flag :
1. Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster riders.
2. When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.
3. Hold your line (don’t ride erratically) and do not impede the
faster riders progress.



OK, I laughed. Thanks.
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2/28/2016 1:15am
It's too bad I/WE didn't get to see the last racing lap of this race. I'm so disappointed.

Another Supercross failure ....so many.
2/28/2016 2:26am
Stewart got the blue flag already at the wall, why didn't he check up at the straight away? He got it again at the straight away and stayed in the main line before the finish jump. Then got it again at the finish line and at the whoops after up but kept the throttle pinned through it. Why the fuck race the leaders if you are a lapper? The "hold your line" argument doesn't even make sense here, he shouldn't have race the leaders and definitely should've checked up at the straight away before the finish. I'm no Stewart hater and no Musquin fan, but defending James with "he hold his lines" is some huge bullcrap and if you ever had to lap someone you know why.
2/28/2016 4:33am
My question is what if Roczen was leading Dungey?
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2/28/2016 5:02am Edited Date/Time 2/28/2016 5:03am
There was a race going on. Stewart wasn't in it. Stewart needed to get the fuck out of the way or off the track to let Musquin and Dungey settle the outcome of the race.

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2/28/2016 7:25am
Motodave15 wrote:
Held his line through the whoops on the left side... made the left hand turn held the line on the left side He did concede, marvin...
Held his line through the whoops on the left side... made the left hand turn held the line on the left side

He did concede, marvin got caught up worrying about what ryan was going to do.. and came in relatively hot into that turn, into james.. the arc of that corner from the inside is fucky.

Marvin was fine till he came up short.. cant blame anybody for that but the rider on that particular bike

I thought james was at fualt at first too. But upon the replays, you can see it wasnt the case.
Wow that's a definition of left.
When I saw it live in the corner he was right in the middle and guess what even on Video it is right in the middle.

He was 14th at the time being lapped, any other rider would have been taken apart here.

He saw the blue flag way before that, maybe he has still blurry vision.
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2/28/2016 7:42am
Just wondering how many of you have been on the floor for a riders meeting to hear what the official has to say regarding the blue flag?
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2/28/2016 7:48am
coop8878 wrote:
There should be no blue flags, If you can't pass a lap rider then you don't deserve a win anyway. GO STEWART!
Possibly the dumbest thing posted here ever.
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2/28/2016 8:01am
Amazing how calculated and precise you pro nothings are that you can avoid any situation in a pro race. Good thing you guys are not out there or we may of never of heard of James Stewart or Rickey Carmichael. It's racing. Things happen, you boys couldn't hold your line in a Mac truck.
2/28/2016 10:43am
Radical wrote:
Since there are 3 threads on this topic, I'll post this here too. For the record, whenever anyone says lapped riders should pull over and get...
Since there are 3 threads on this topic, I'll post this here too.

For the record, whenever anyone says lapped riders should pull over and get out of the way, they are pulling that out of their butt. The rules say hold your line, don't cross over, just hold your line.

If riders pull over when they see a blue flag, that's their decision, but it is not what the blue flag requires.

Stewart did it right. He turned the corner, then took the far left line and stayed there. He held his line. There was plenty of room for everyone else.

Marvin should be mad only that he screwed up under pressure.
It was a great ride for him. This week he did not get it done. He should own up to it, and come back strong next week.

BTW: I went riding today at Pala, and it was awesome! I had to throw that in there.
The rules also say you should not impede the race. He did. He was mid track in the corner. He should have checked up and let MM and RD have the whole corner. It is the last damn lap of the race, and two guys are racing for the win.

Watch how they are spread out coming into the whoops. MM is right on James, and RD is a half sec back. In the LH corner right after the whoops, MM is still hung up on Stew, but now RD is right on MM. How did that happen? It happened because James' momentum took him from full left in the whoops, to 2/3 right in the corner. How is that holding your line?

Stew DID IMPEDE THE LEADERS by not checking up in the whoops. His line took him half way up the berm...which is 2/3 of the way across the track. How can anyone say he held his line? He did not. He was full left in the whoops, and 2/3 right in the LH turn, and then back to full left in the rythm section. He should have checked up in the whoops so he could have stayed all the way down in the flat apron on the LH 180.

Stop at 2:21

2/28/2016 10:47am Edited Date/Time 2/28/2016 10:48am
Motodave15 wrote:
Held his line through the whoops on the left side... made the left hand turn held the line on the left side He did concede, marvin...
Held his line through the whoops on the left side... made the left hand turn held the line on the left side

He did concede, marvin got caught up worrying about what ryan was going to do.. and came in relatively hot into that turn, into james.. the arc of that corner from the inside is fucky.

Marvin was fine till he came up short.. cant blame anybody for that but the rider on that particular bike

I thought james was at fualt at first too. But upon the replays, you can see it wasnt the case.
You must be blind. Look at the vid above at 2:21. The apex is pulled back and there is about 15 feet of flat before the berm, and Stew is 1/2 way up the damn berm...which equates to about 2/3 of the way right of the total track available.

Stew should have stayed down on the flat in the corner...about 5 feet lower. To do that, he should have checked up in the whoops. Brain fade on his part, and at least no one got hurt.
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2/28/2016 11:43am
The 250 class lapped up to 12th place. The 450 class lapped up to 14th place. SX does not need a chase format. It needs 20 guys who can stay on the same lap for 15 minutes. Make the main event the top 10 from the 250 heats and the top 10 from the 450 heats.

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