SCRAMBLECROSS...Where it's headed

Kidd
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Edited Date/Time 2/4/2016 5:56am
I read several comments on my other topic regarding no ambulance runs during our inaugural 2015 Scramblecross season. I personally like the one stating I was using the topic as a promotional tool... "Really"? After spending over 50 years in this industry as an amateur to pro rider, then the last 30 years selling hundreds of thousands of tickets, millions of dollars in sponsorship, I'm a little familiar how to generating awareness to riders, fans, our industry and media.

For those that don't know, after retiring from professional racing in 1983 I launched the AMA National Arenacross Series. Spent 20 years not only dedicated to the promotional aspect of the series, but safety as well. We created the no jump white/flag with a red X (which was the ambulance flag when you ordered flags), first to install the safety lights backing up the flag with very strict guidelines that disqualified riders if they jumped, ask any of the AX stars from the 80's-2005.During that time we also learned how to make the tracks safer by slowing them down, speeding them up in certain areas, using different types of dirt, sand, etc..

So now let me tell you why at 62 years old I'm not done in this industry. I have promoted events with fatalities, young and adult riders paralyzed, had several sleepless nights after watching the ambulance make continuous runs. I have been in racing accidents where other riders lost their lives. I'm out of fingers counting friends that give it their all.

I am NOT going to stand up to say motorcycle racing is dangerous because we all know the throttle goes both ways. However I believe now is the time to create a day at the race track with the elements that can create tragic accidents be removed... rider friendly without having to have the best suspension available to just compete. Every major manufacturer sells a show room stock motorcycle that only about 20% of the riders can ride to it's full capability. Throw in the intimidating jumps and big berms, the riders go into survival mode. Even the best riders in the world with the most experience, perfect skill levels and top physical condition have a hard time making it through a season.

Although my professional career was competing in the AMA Grand National Series, I raced motocross as an amateur, even raced a few AMA Trans Am events in the early 70's. I don't remember seeing big dozer's at the track creating big jumps, most tracks were up and down hills, through creeks, ditches, fields...what ever the promoter could find. You know what...we had FUN.

Scramblecross is for all level of riders that don't want to be intimated by the 90' triples, no time to train, doesn't have the funds for all the expensive add on's, must go to work or school Monday morning. Riders that just enjoy a day at the track...our biggest classes are the over 30, over 40 and over 50.

It took 4-5 years to get Arenacross up and going strong. If you like the concept of Scramblecross take off and would like to see one in your area, please have your promoter get in touch with me. We have rule books, track guidelines and I will personally help promote Scramblecross with him.

Our first event for 2016 is Sunday, February 21st the day after the Dallas Supercross at the Askey Ranch an 1100 ranch just 45 minutes from AT&T Stadium. Go to google maps search Scramblecross Askey Ranch.

Thank you,
Mike Kidd

mkidd72@aol.com

Had my share of injuries, broke left femur. Santa Fe Speedway - Chicago, IL - 1973





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mb60
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2/3/2016 2:02pm
Mike,

Will you be having more events at other locations this year ?
Kidd
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2/3/2016 2:29pm
Yes. Right now we have two scheduled at Village Creek MX in Fort Worth. Have other track interested, I just need to inspect. MK
DA498
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2/3/2016 3:33pm
I wish I lived in your area Mike. Great Idea and feel the same way as you. Yes Im old (58) but see a need for this for more than just the old guys.


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2/3/2016 3:41pm
Sounds like a great idea. Is there a website or facebook page where people can learn more about it?

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2/3/2016 4:25pm
This might be the best new idea to be introduced to amateur racing in a long, long time.

At 56, my days of sizing up a 60' (40', lol!) double are pretty much over, but I can remember a time when we unloaded at the track (Western NY) and raced a truly natural terrain, challenging but not deadly, mx track. As Mike says, we had FUN, and crashed happened but major injuries were very rare. In fact, in my years racing between the ages of 13-20 I don't recall a life altering injury EVER at our local tracks. Broken collar bones, legs, arms... infrequently, but never the "big" stuff.

I'd love it if a track in Florida could host something like this, but I'm afraid we're all a little too "supercrossy" around here because of our flat land.

I commend you, Mr. Kidd for taking a stand. If I can help in any way, I'd be happy to do so.

Mark Edwards
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2/3/2016 4:27pm
california!! where in california can i do this...I know for sure i could get my dad to race with me on something like this.
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2/3/2016 4:30pm
Its obvious there's much more to Mike Kidd then just National Champ. National Champ at the peak of what had arguably been our biggest sport...

Well said Mike, I'd bump my vote for the big office from any of those other blow hards we have to choose from to you fine man. Boots on the ground, gets 'r done!
Thank you for giving back, adding to our choice and sport.

We have a great venue in Nor Cal, just need someone with a clue... give Stormie a call!
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2/3/2016 4:31pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2016 4:32pm
This is long overdue, this is the kind of racing needed to keep the sport viable. The people who can afford to buy 8k bikes, also have to be at work Monday to pay for those bikes. I really hope this spreads like wild fire across the country.
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2/3/2016 4:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2016 4:33pm
Can't wait for the races to start up! I have a bone to pick with those water crossings! Wink
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2/3/2016 4:52pm
I'm confused, were people questioning you on the other thread about the safety of your event or your intentions?
I've done these kinda races before, use to be a track in Alabama called runninbrand. And now there's a guy in Tennesse. Scramble cross just sounds like vintage racing for the modern bikes to me. So what's the issue? Tons of fun and safe err. I did break my arm at runninbrand lol
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2/3/2016 5:38pm
Motodave15 wrote:
california!! where in california can i do this...I know for sure i could get my dad to race with me on something like this.
Check out an SRA GP. http://www.sragp.com/
Once a month at Glen Helen. Ton of fun.
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2/3/2016 5:40pm
Awesome stuff Mike. Wish I was closer to one. Congrats on everything and I know scramblecross is destined to be a huge success.
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I think this is a great ideal Mike. It could be so much safer for the riders. All it takes is the tracks and riders to support Scramblecross. I believe it would help grow the sport again, bring in new racers young and old. I do not know anybody that can ride a 450 4 stroke to its full potential, even most of the top factory guys are not able to, the 250 pro riders are almost as fast if not faster, and most of the pros are constantly dropping out of the series with serious injuries. I have seen lots of injuries in my 45 years of riding, but they are getting more and more serious, some even fatal. l. Something needs to be done. Maybe the manufacturer's could build specific Scramblecross bikes that don't need the very high price tags and technology of the current new bikes these days. They should build what the average rider needs and can ride safely in Scramblecross. I was in the motorcycle industry for my career, I am now retired. Ask a kid these days if they want a motorcycle or the newest smart phone, the smart phone wins almost every time. I have always said all these very fast bikes that Japan sends over, street, dirt, and ATV models is payback for dropping a couple of bombs on them back in the 40's, they are hurting and killing American's everyday. Goggle the laws on getting a license to ride a motorcycle in Japan, very strict and time consuming, you will be amazed how hard it is to obtain. Most all Japanese riders are on smaller cc motorcycles. Think about it. Scramblecross is one of the best ideals I have heard in a long time. This is just my opinion.
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2/3/2016 5:50pm
Mike your promotion company in arenacross was an amatuer's best friend. I wadded in Dallas back in '01 during an event, I had the reduction of a couple broken bones done in the ER, went home expecting a large bill and was shocked to find your event insurance covered $10,000 in medical bills. I can't thank you enough for thinking about the riders, and if you bring the series to Florida you have a guaranteed entry from my son and I.
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2/3/2016 6:34pm
This is a terrific idea. Go back to the roots. Hope it takes off !!
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This is the kind of events that will bring a resurgence to the sport of offroad motorcycling and I would even say these type of events will save our sport. I've met a lot of people who won't go to a big mx track and give mx a chance because of the huge jumps and disced loam that's a foot deep. Those tracks are good mx tracks but new riders can't start on that. These types of events are good for every skill level and inspire confidence. Love seeing this. Hopefully I can make one of these before I move this summer.
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2/3/2016 7:51pm
I haven't got a chance to look at the website yet, but the concept may be similar to what has led to the hugely successful JDay series.
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2/3/2016 8:00pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2016 8:01pm
Kidd wrote:
Yes. Right now we have two scheduled at Village Creek MX in Fort Worth. Have other track interested, I just need to inspect. MK
Village Creek you say? Ol' Cordray sandbag
on me and withholding the good info

See ya in Feb
Aaron R
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I haven't got a chance to look at the website yet, but the concept may be similar to what has led to the hugely successful JDay...
I haven't got a chance to look at the website yet, but the concept may be similar to what has led to the hugely successful JDay series.
I'm moving back home to MA in May can't wait to get after that JDay series.
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2/3/2016 8:21pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2016 8:21pm
Pirate421 wrote:
This is the kind of events that will bring a resurgence to the sport of offroad motorcycling and I would even say these type of events...
This is the kind of events that will bring a resurgence to the sport of offroad motorcycling and I would even say these type of events will save our sport. I've met a lot of people who won't go to a big mx track and give mx a chance because of the huge jumps and disced loam that's a foot deep. Those tracks are good mx tracks but new riders can't start on that. These types of events are good for every skill level and inspire confidence. Love seeing this. Hopefully I can make one of these before I move this summer.
Shit man, even as a guy who has ridden for 10+ years, I still won't/don't pull the trigger on big jumps. They've always sketched me out (call me a pussy all you want, I don't care)
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zehn wrote:
Shit man, even as a guy who has ridden for 10+ years, I still won't/don't pull the trigger on big jumps. They've always sketched me out...
Shit man, even as a guy who has ridden for 10+ years, I still won't/don't pull the trigger on big jumps. They've always sketched me out (call me a pussy all you want, I don't care)
I agree I'm more of a vet rider now have a daughter and need to o to work on Monday. I've been riding for about 20 years now but I don't love the huge jumps anymore either. I like to jump a bit still but I was mostly implying that this is what the people who are new to the sport need. The tracks these days I guess the last 10 yrs or so have become so huge with jumps and dudes scrubbing and it's intimidating for anyone to go out on one of these tracks even experienced riders. But as an experienced rider I think the scramblecross looks like a ton of fun. No pressure to huck 100' tabletops and just have fun riding your dirtbike in the woods and the field like when I was a kid running thru 5 gallons of premix a da from sun up till I couldn't see anymore.
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2/3/2016 9:20pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2016 9:22pm
Love the idea.

It sounds like a clear way to race and cut down on the nastiness of a current MX track. Please don't look at my icon photo after that statement....that was 8 concussions ago.

There are so many boomers out ther that have a ton of cash.....and want to race.....

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Tbteam wrote:
This might be the best new idea to be introduced to amateur racing in a long, long time. At 56, my days of sizing up a...
This might be the best new idea to be introduced to amateur racing in a long, long time.

At 56, my days of sizing up a 60' (40', lol!) double are pretty much over, but I can remember a time when we unloaded at the track (Western NY) and raced a truly natural terrain, challenging but not deadly, mx track. As Mike says, we had FUN, and crashed happened but major injuries were very rare. In fact, in my years racing between the ages of 13-20 I don't recall a life altering injury EVER at our local tracks. Broken collar bones, legs, arms... infrequently, but never the "big" stuff.

I'd love it if a track in Florida could host something like this, but I'm afraid we're all a little too "supercrossy" around here because of our flat land.

I commend you, Mr. Kidd for taking a stand. If I can help in any way, I'd be happy to do so.

Mark Edwards
I'm in Florida also. If we had this going, I'd be all in. Hard Rock has some elevation changes, but yes, most of these Florida tracks have big doubles and triples, etc. I cased it hard on the triple stepdown at Waldo a couple weeks ago. I did a Kenny Roczen at Oakland last year. Hit the Bar pad with my face, bit my tongue, blew my hands off the bar. I'm 57 pushing 58, I don't need more medical problems. If you don't jump that stuff, you are not competitive. So why race? I would love to get involved in a local Scramblecross event. Oh, I'm not a big fan of blind jumps, either.
2/4/2016 12:01am
Motodave15 wrote:
california!! where in california can i do this...I know for sure i could get my dad to race with me on something like this.
X2!!!!!!
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teggers wrote:
Love the idea. It sounds like a clear way to race and cut down on the nastiness of a current MX track. Please don't look at...
Love the idea.

It sounds like a clear way to race and cut down on the nastiness of a current MX track. Please don't look at my icon photo after that statement....that was 8 concussions ago.

There are so many boomers out ther that have a ton of cash.....and want to race.....

Not to mention riders with bikes collecting dust that can easily return to the sport. My first race was on a scrambles track and then old school MX tracks in Ohio Kentucky and Indiana. Some of the tracks had what would be considered an enduro section but it was MX in the 70s. Great racing and meat wagon rides were few and far between.

Love the idea too
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2/4/2016 5:56am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2016 5:58am
We currently have a group/series like this in the Chattanooga area. sevintagemx.com
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I Raced the spring series, it was my first time back racing in 15 years and It was an awesome experience. Laid back and people there racing and having a good time. I'm happy to see them expanding and adding more tracks!

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