Mike Genova statement on racerx

1/12/2016 10:54am
Friese is a great rider. He's competing with the best SX riders in the world. Just hold your line Vince.
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1/12/2016 10:55am
If Genova doesn't think Vince is a dirty rider, hes an idiot and just plain lying
ACBraap wrote:
It's admirable the way Genova has formed a team and kept it funded to support Mike Alessi. It's also obvious he's an idiot with statements like...
It's admirable the way Genova has formed a team and kept it funded to support Mike Alessi. It's also obvious he's an idiot with statements like this and his continued support of Friese, his statements re lasergate, Alessi's takeout of Tickle (which I think was frustration rather than Friese-like dirty riding).
Agreed. It’s tough to do what he’s done and it’s good to see another team out there but his public comments and support of certain actions makes it easy to conclude the guy is either delusional or not willing to admit any wrongdoing of his team.
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1/12/2016 10:58am
Vince cut half the track and took out Kaven Benoit 2 summers ago in Quebec, he acted like such an absolute douchbag that spectators where throwing rocks at him while the race was going on, the team was lucky not to have their Semi burned to the ground. Genova is throwing stones when he lives in a class house. Vince is the DIRTIEST rider on the track.
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1/12/2016 11:00am
F*ck Genova, motoconcepts, alessi and friese. they dont add anything of value to the sport. i dont care for that "team" and i wont buy anything...
F*ck Genova, motoconcepts, alessi and friese. they dont add anything of value to the sport. i dont care for that "team" and i wont buy anything that carries a sticker on those bikes.
BAM! I'm with you. Not a good group of people.

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1/12/2016 11:05am
GuyB wrote:
I'd suspect that Vince is going to get a reminder this week from the officials on the way he should behave on the track.
I can agree with that. Every officiating set of eyeballs is gonna watch him now. Hopefully he's on his best behavior.
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1/12/2016 11:08am
peelout wrote:
and you haven't heard anything from Weston or JGR (besides a couple sentences from Coy), so really, what is your point? it's clear you have an...
and you haven't heard anything from Weston or JGR (besides a couple sentences from Coy), so really, what is your point?

it's clear you have an axe to grind, so be it. Vince riding like a dick-head was wrong but it was racing. Weston punching Vince well beyond anything that should be acceptable.

The only axe I have to grind is with people who act like assholes... I think we can agree that whole team has been on the wrong side of that on numerous occasions.. So I have a problem with Mike Genova acting holier than thou, yes.

Not condoning Peick's actions at all... There's a better way to handle it, obviously.
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1/12/2016 11:15am
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Look, a rider can ride "within the rules" and still be riding like a dickhead. Vince did that, don't expect the AMA to address anything except...
Look, a rider can ride "within the rules" and still be riding like a dickhead.

Vince did that,

don't expect the AMA to address anything except not permitting a rider to physically attack another rider or anyone involved.

I sure would have thought JGR or someone on Piecks team would issue some sort of apology / statement.

As far as the Alessi Tickle thing, I thought Mike apologized right away.
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You're right, I believe Mike did. I also remember that Tickle wasn't having any of it, which made Mike's claims of "we're friends" ring pretty hollow...
You're right, I believe Mike did. I also remember that Tickle wasn't having any of it, which made Mike's claims of "we're friends" ring pretty hollow.

My main point is I didn't hear shit out of the team (Genova or Tony Alessi) about the incident, which by anyone's standard was a blatant take-out move... Not an official team apology, nor an internal suspension for their rider, which is what Genova is calling for here. The hypocrisy just gets me

And I do get your point about riding like a dick, but isn't this shit dangerous enough without somebody (or some team) causing these kinds of incidents repeatedly?
Why would Genova or Tony have to apologize? They didn't commit the act. The person who made the bone head mistake was Mike Alessi, and he swiftly and adamantly apologized. Why isn't that good enough for you? Why can't the guy who represents the team on the big stage make an apology for his wrong doing? I think you are looking for a way to compare the two when you can't. Weston certainly should apologize. That whole situation is on him, not his team. He made a huge mistake and needs to take responsibility for it.
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1/12/2016 11:22am
Weston doesn't need to apologize for shit. Vince had it coming. Ping was right though, he should have waited until off the track away from the cameras then beat his ass.

I hope all the other riders punt Vince off the track whenever they get the chance. That guy rides like an idiot.
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1/12/2016 11:25am
BobbyM wrote:
Weston should know better than to punch a dude with a helmet on.
TeamGreen wrote:
Wait a minute...

You've never been sooo pissed off that you could pull something like that...especially after driving all night to the track...back in the day...?
Sure... I "misjudged" a few incidents in my time.
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1/12/2016 11:30am
GuyB wrote:
I'd suspect that Vince is going to get a reminder this week from the officials on the way he should behave on the track.
How many reminders is this for him? Not enough fingers to enumerate them all..

It's like when I was a kid.

I knew I could do something stupid, get yelled at, be on my best behavior for a short period of time and then do something stupid again.

Rinse, Repeat with no real punishment.
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1/12/2016 11:33am
Friese was racing for position. There was nothing dirty about what he did. It was racing, just like Canard's pass on Dungey was a racing incident.

Peick, on the hand, is an embarrassment to JGR, the sport, and himself. He needs to understand that he cannot lose control like that. Unfortunately, any public apology he makes will likely be feigned, so there would be no meaning in that.
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1/12/2016 11:47am Edited Date/Time 1/12/2016 11:51am
Everybody on the line and probably in the stands to knows how Vince rides. Besides Windham has anyone ever punted Friese or at least ran him off the track? What I'm saying is the AMA is letting it up to the riders to handle Vince, and they havn't done shit.

Like 500 guy said you can ride dirty and still ride within the rules and imo this is exactly what Friese does.
I actually like Friese, he's tenacious as hell, doesn't give a f$$k who you are, and somehow has managed to have a lengthy career on the big stage, its pretty impressive really.
Oh and did you expect anything different from Genova? The Guy will defend his team/riders no matter what
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1/12/2016 11:50am
I think Vince's biggest mistake was making contact with the same guy too many times.
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1/12/2016 11:51am
Friese is an embarrassment to this sport not Peick. Theres a reason why almost every pro says the same thing about that bonehead. Peick shouldnt have did what he did but it happened amd its done. Friese continues to do the same stupid shit. During that heat race i saw him cross jump wilson in the rhythm section before the finish, saw him cross jump anderson over the finish and cross jump tomac. All in one race and he took out Peick. Thats all in 6 laps. Friese needs to race arenacross if thats how he wants to ride. Get out of supercross
1/12/2016 11:52am
GuyB wrote:
I think Vince's biggest mistake was making contact with the same guy too many times.
Agreed ! ~ 50% of the current AMA pros
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1/12/2016 11:53am
GuyB wrote:
I think Vince's biggest mistake was making contact with the same guy too many times.
That would be my guess also.....
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1/12/2016 11:58am
GuyB wrote:
I think Vince's biggest mistake was making contact with the same guy too many times.
Yes, they certainly seem to find each other on the track often enough
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1/12/2016 11:59am
If Genova doesn't think Vince is a dirty rider, hes an idiot and just plain lying
ACBraap wrote:
It's admirable the way Genova has formed a team and kept it funded to support Mike Alessi. It's also obvious he's an idiot with statements like...
It's admirable the way Genova has formed a team and kept it funded to support Mike Alessi. It's also obvious he's an idiot with statements like this and his continued support of Friese, his statements re lasergate, Alessi's takeout of Tickle (which I think was frustration rather than Friese-like dirty riding).
That whole team is a weird deal. It seems like Genova could get a lot bigger bang for his buck than Alessi and Freise.
1/12/2016 12:06pm
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Friese was racing for position. There was nothing dirty about what he did. It was racing, just like Canard's pass on Dungey was a racing incident...
Friese was racing for position. There was nothing dirty about what he did. It was racing, just like Canard's pass on Dungey was a racing incident.

Peick, on the hand, is an embarrassment to JGR, the sport, and himself. He needs to understand that he cannot lose control like that. Unfortunately, any public apology he makes will likely be feigned, so there would be no meaning in that.
I can guarantee Dungey will payback Canard, he took note of it, and you could tell from his after race interview, he didn't consider it 'just a racing incident.'

Peick is a upper tier rider, people seem to forget what he was doing last year with Barcia out. He's a upper tier rider on a top tier team - Friese not so much. There's probably a ton of jealousy, but VF is not in the same class as WP. If Friese wants to rider around knocking people down, he should stick to riders of the same speed and talent level, guys who struggle to make a few main events here and there.
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1/12/2016 12:49pm
I'm sure glad I can enjoy the racing without inflating all the drama.
So who are we going to tell how to do their job next week?
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1/12/2016 12:59pm
Peick use to ride for MCR
He has sence moved on maybe there is some jealousy aspect too it
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1/12/2016 1:01pm
three9zero wrote:
Vince cut half the track and took out Kaven Benoit 2 summers ago in Quebec, he acted like such an absolute douchbag that spectators where throwing...
Vince cut half the track and took out Kaven Benoit 2 summers ago in Quebec, he acted like such an absolute douchbag that spectators where throwing rocks at him while the race was going on, the team was lucky not to have their Semi burned to the ground. Genova is throwing stones when he lives in a class house. Vince is the DIRTIEST rider on the track.
Exactly. He should have been deported for his riding in Canada. Didn't make too many friends here either, so for Genova to ignore his repeated actions on both sides of the border is pretty, well, I don't know what to say...Glass houses, Mike, glass houses....
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1/12/2016 1:02pm
Celine wrote:
Friese was racing for position. There was nothing dirty about what he did. It was racing, just like Canard's pass on Dungey was a racing incident...
Friese was racing for position. There was nothing dirty about what he did. It was racing, just like Canard's pass on Dungey was a racing incident.

Peick, on the hand, is an embarrassment to JGR, the sport, and himself. He needs to understand that he cannot lose control like that. Unfortunately, any public apology he makes will likely be feigned, so there would be no meaning in that.
Friese was going backward. The move was an attempt at regaining a position he had just lost. Canard was moving up. Huge difference (not to mention Canards was in the main). When the first line from Emig et al is Peick just got 'Friesed' and they chuckle about it, it's obvious there's history there.

From Transworld in 2011 re Las Vegas "K-Dub went in hard on the inside of Friese and straight up took his front wheel out, giving Friese a taste of what it feels like to be on the receiving end for a change."

The astounding part isn't what Peick did on Saturday night, it's that it took so long to happen.
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1/12/2016 1:38pm
The whole interview...

Mike Genova, owner, SmarTop MotoConcepts: It’s pretty cut and dry. Vince [Friese] was racing and racing hard, and didn’t intend to knock [Weston] Peick down. Both guys are hard chargers and have the same mindset, and it got tight and they crashed. But that kind of behavior is not acceptable, and not only does it blacken the eye of the sport, it jeopardizes Vince’s health. What would we be doing right now if he’d have hurt him? We have a lot of money invested in him and we care about him. For obvious reasons, that’s not acceptable. Hopefully they’ll pass out due justice, and in our opinion it should be a multi-race suspension. I’ve never seen anything like it.

I feel for the JGR guys, and I was talking to Jeremy Albrecht [JGR team manager] and I said I was sorry, but I was going to have to press the issue pretty hard. He was embarrassed and he said the whole thing was stupid. He was embarrassed and he should be, and Weston should be too. We’ve not seen anyone from their organization and apologize at all, and I would do that if the shoe was on the other foot. I’m assuming it’s going to be something Weston regrets if he doesn’t already. I’m extremely proud of Vince for being so classy and demonstrating so much self-control. Vince doesn’t take crap from anybody.

Vince does have a bit of a reputation for riding rough. Was he too rough tonight, or was it just racing?
Well everyone has a different opinion on that, and everyone says Vince has a reputation for that, but 70 percent of the guys in these pits have a reputation for that. That’s what it takes to compete at this level. Does Vince have a reputation any more than anyone else? I don’t know. But we’re not getting any heat from the AMA, and they don’t think we did anything wrong. He didn’t intentionally do that, he was just trying to get underneath Weston, and Weston could have backed off a little too. If we’d have done anything wrong we’d be getting heat, but they’ve totally cleared us. Unfortunately, I’ve been told that the media guys all point the finger at Vince, and that he provoked it, but come on, we’ve all see the likes of Ricky Carmichael and Kevin Windham and guys like that do things, and it’s just called racing. If you dent the guy’s fender in NASCAR it doesn’t give him the right to T-bone you. Do we think Vince dented his fender? Yeah probably, but these things happen. There’s a lot going on in these races, and I find it comical that anyone would think it was an extreme, blatant, dirty move by Vince. And Weston got nasty with Vince a few turns earlier; he whipped it in front of him over a triple. But of course nobody saw that.

I can tell you if it had been one of my guys who did that, I’d suspend him right away. If one of my guys demonstrated that kind of lack of self-control, discipline, class, and respect, he’d have a big problem and it would be from me. So we’ll see what those guys do. I know Jeremy Albrecht was really embarrassed.
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1/12/2016 2:20pm
Calling bullshit on this:

"...everyone says Vince has a reputation for that, but 70 percent of the guys in these pits have a reputation for that. That’s what it takes to compete at this level. Does Vince have a reputation any more than anyone else? I don’t know."

It's like the parents of a toddler who think their child can do no wrong, except the 55 isn't a child.
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I sort of see it from both sides. I can see why Peick would be so angry and snap like that. But now that I've watched it a few more times, I don't think Friese's move was as bad as I thought it was at first. He comes in hot on the inside but he actually gets the bike turned quite a bit. The thing that causes the crash was Weston coming back down the berm on top of Friese, not Friese riding up into Peick. But Friese really blocked him off and really gave him nowhere to go. So I can see why Peick is pissed, but also see why Friese doesn't feel like he's done much wrong
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1/12/2016 2:49pm
Some of you need to lay of the Boob - tube ..you have been watching to much Opra and the View.

It is Man's sport, ( That whole chick riding SX is all groovy for marketing, but lets be real)..guys get wound

up, that's what we do..
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1/12/2016 3:07pm
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I sort of see it from both sides. I can see why Peick would be so angry and snap like that. But now that I've watched...
I sort of see it from both sides. I can see why Peick would be so angry and snap like that. But now that I've watched it a few more times, I don't think Friese's move was as bad as I thought it was at first. He comes in hot on the inside but he actually gets the bike turned quite a bit. The thing that causes the crash was Weston coming back down the berm on top of Friese, not Friese riding up into Peick. But Friese really blocked him off and really gave him nowhere to go. So I can see why Peick is pissed, but also see why Friese doesn't feel like he's done much wrong
Yep ^^^
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1/12/2016 3:46pm
I wonder if Mike when defending his team's actions, either writing statements or talking (and he's done a few) ever hears himself and wonders what the fuck he is doing.

You can't end up in situations like this all the time and not look at yourself and the people you surround yourself with, surely.
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1/12/2016 4:04pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2016 4:06pm
F*ck Genova, motoconcepts, alessi and friese. they dont add anything of value to the sport. i dont care for that "team" and i wont buy anything...
F*ck Genova, motoconcepts, alessi and friese. they dont add anything of value to the sport. i dont care for that "team" and i wont buy anything that carries a sticker on those bikes.
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