Kenny's Corner feat. Brian Swink

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9/2/2015 5:22am
I tried adding him hes reached his limit of friends lol. On side note one of my buddies on the ricky post got him all fired...
I tried adding him hes reached his limit of friends lol.

On side note one of my buddies on the ricky post got him all fired up big time it was pretty funny.
you think you riled him up. he's fishing so hard on those posts people that don't know him....have no idea.

brian posts crazy shit when he's drunk. couple of the pulp show calls he was drunk during call in...guessing he was again, i haven't listened to this podcast. I personally don't like listening when brians on. I knew brian well when we were kids and its hard to watch/listen. His dad died thru suicide just like over a year or 2 ago so its kinda scary.
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9/2/2015 5:40am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2015 5:52am
Thats one part you just cant explain to people who have not been through it. You can be clean for 20 years, then jump back in.

With in a week, you sound like him and re-recovery sounds, and feels impossible. Whats needed is something like a lock up facility. Thats why you see such dismal results for out patient programs.

I remember when the coroner was picking up my brothers body.

He said, "Sir, I'm sorry, but I have to ask this question....Your brother was a drinker, but why are there 33 1/2 pints that are empty when the larger bottles cost so much less?"

I said, "Thats easy. Each one of those bottles was the "last one"
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9/2/2015 5:55am
That interview was hard to listen to. I feel sorry for the guy.
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9/2/2015 7:49am
Kenny tried hard to keep Brian positive but that was the most confronting podcast I've ever listened to.

Once Kenny hung up, you could tell that he was quite emotional and if it was someone you knew I can understand why.

I hope Brian can get back on track.

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9/2/2015 7:53am
SoftSand wrote:
Kenny tried hard to keep Brian positive but that was the most confronting podcast I've ever listened to. Once Kenny hung up, you could tell that...
Kenny tried hard to keep Brian positive but that was the most confronting podcast I've ever listened to.

Once Kenny hung up, you could tell that he was quite emotional and if it was someone you knew I can understand why.

I hope Brian can get back on track.
I also noticed kenny seemed a little caught off guard right after swink said he cried himself to sleep every night. Anyone else hear kenny kind of take a breath, and then freeze a little bit. That was heavy.
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9/2/2015 8:33am
I've posted this photo before but what the heck.... This was in 1987 @ Baja Acres and I would have been 11 years old. I'm on Brian right and could not belive he pulled up beside me and my 80 C class buddies as we waited for practice to start....I can remeber he would wheelie the entire start straight, then lap me about 3 or 4 laps later at a speed I did not know was possible. He was jumping this totally blind down hill double that was fucking crazy, only Mike Larocco/Eddie Warren/Todd Dehoop and a few others were doing on big bikes.. Brian was just so much better and faster than all of us, bet seemed to be very humble and quite a nice guy. He was always freindly in the pits, during the afternoon classes when all of us mini riders would watch the aftenoon program, we was just like anyother normal kid even though he was the fastest rider in the world at the time. Brian was my hero growing up.......Listening to the pod cast was very hard for me. I hope Brian finds a happy place, I'm lucky enough to be friends on facebook with Brian, he provides me with daily entertainment, he's hilarious.


My fondest memories of racing motocross are days like this in the 80's, you can see Brian in this photo wearing a BAD ASS open face Shoei helmet, white Scott face mask and Gear racing kit.


9/2/2015 9:02am
The odd thing is that on the track, he was so smooth and technical. Just an awesome style. I idolized the guy's riding when he was on Suzuki.
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9/2/2015 9:13am
Swink was always one my favorite riders and was hoping he would have had more victory's on the big bike. I have

listened to both pod cast he was on and sounded like a repeat of the other one. Sad to hear someone say they made

400k a year but really was not much money. I'm assuming he is construction now working his off from sun up to sun

down. Hope he turns it around and can come around the races sometime. Maybe it would give him some hope to make

things better for the future.
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9/2/2015 9:25am
three9zero wrote:
I've posted this photo before but what the heck.... This was in 1987 @ Baja Acres and I would have been 11 years old. I'm on...
I've posted this photo before but what the heck.... This was in 1987 @ Baja Acres and I would have been 11 years old. I'm on Brian right and could not belive he pulled up beside me and my 80 C class buddies as we waited for practice to start....I can remeber he would wheelie the entire start straight, then lap me about 3 or 4 laps later at a speed I did not know was possible. He was jumping this totally blind down hill double that was fucking crazy, only Mike Larocco/Eddie Warren/Todd Dehoop and a few others were doing on big bikes.. Brian was just so much better and faster than all of us, bet seemed to be very humble and quite a nice guy. He was always freindly in the pits, during the afternoon classes when all of us mini riders would watch the aftenoon program, we was just like anyother normal kid even though he was the fastest rider in the world at the time. Brian was my hero growing up.......Listening to the pod cast was very hard for me. I hope Brian finds a happy place, I'm lucky enough to be friends on facebook with Brian, he provides me with daily entertainment, he's hilarious.


My fondest memories of racing motocross are days like this in the 80's, you can see Brian in this photo wearing a BAD ASS open face Shoei helmet, white Scott face mask and Gear racing kit.


ah the blind double. me and johnny were doing it also that day. chris stanick eventually cased the second double in that pair and ate it so hard he broke both his arms and wrecked his face on it.

i rode against swink for 4-5 years every weekend. amazing talent...but he always was kinda trouble maker, no fucks given type. him and i went at it in 60's where it was fist fights when we came off the track, lol. he was amazing at pushing peoples buttons.

#15 swink leading me in 82'

swink to the right of me and rock in 85'

swink holeshotting me and kitsch..also 85'


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9/2/2015 9:37am
Damn pretty intense pod. Sounds like he really needs to let go of the past
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9/2/2015 9:44am
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ah the blind double. me and johnny were doing it also that day. chris stanick eventually cased the second double in that pair and ate it...
ah the blind double. me and johnny were doing it also that day. chris stanick eventually cased the second double in that pair and ate it so hard he broke both his arms and wrecked his face on it.

i rode against swink for 4-5 years every weekend. amazing talent...but he always was kinda trouble maker, no fucks given type. him and i went at it in 60's where it was fist fights when we came off the track, lol. he was amazing at pushing peoples buttons.

#15 swink leading me in 82'

swink to the right of me and rock in 85'

swink holeshotting me and kitsch..also 85'


Those are some cool stories and photos Dan. You grew up in the golden age of the Michigan Mafia, there were just so many fast kids from the area back then.......
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9/2/2015 11:42am
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I've always wondered 2 things about Swink's career: 1. I watched him win a 250 moto at RedBud but moto 2 was a different story. I...
I've always wondered 2 things about Swink's career:

1. I watched him win a 250 moto at RedBud but moto 2 was a different story. I recall people around him after the moto like he was spent, what happened?

2. When he was on Honda of Troy he was on a very solid 250 after being on some sub par Suzuki's at the time. That was a good opportunity or was he over it by then?
I was told he ended up having a blood disorder or something?? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told that from a rider I know that use to race with him. He would start strong but fade due to fatigue.
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9/2/2015 12:24pm
Thar was more of an intervention than an interview
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9/2/2015 12:29pm
Ramrod wrote:
I've always wondered 2 things about Swink's career: 1. I watched him win a 250 moto at RedBud but moto 2 was a different story. I...
I've always wondered 2 things about Swink's career:

1. I watched him win a 250 moto at RedBud but moto 2 was a different story. I recall people around him after the moto like he was spent, what happened?

2. When he was on Honda of Troy he was on a very solid 250 after being on some sub par Suzuki's at the time. That was a good opportunity or was he over it by then?
Mx286 wrote:
I was told he ended up having a blood disorder or something?? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told that from a rider...
I was told he ended up having a blood disorder or something?? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told that from a rider I know that use to race with him. He would start strong but fade due to fatigue.
My understanding is that he has diabetes. This is was told to me by one of his childhood friends whom I work with. Don't know it to be a fact though.
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9/2/2015 1:04pm
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Thats one part you just cant explain to people who have not been through it. You can be clean for 20 years, then jump back in...
Thats one part you just cant explain to people who have not been through it. You can be clean for 20 years, then jump back in.

With in a week, you sound like him and re-recovery sounds, and feels impossible. Whats needed is something like a lock up facility. Thats why you see such dismal results for out patient programs.

I remember when the coroner was picking up my brothers body.

He said, "Sir, I'm sorry, but I have to ask this question....Your brother was a drinker, but why are there 33 1/2 pints that are empty when the larger bottles cost so much less?"

I said, "Thats easy. Each one of those bottles was the "last one"
...How true.......Aug. 13, 1990 was the last day I drank. Listening to Brian was chilling. I have
tapes of me with my kids @ Christmas, or whatever, & I sound just like that......My life now
is so awesome, I couldn't have imagined it was possible. I wish there was a button Brian could
push, so he could see what's possible for him, but unfortunately there is no magic button......
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9/2/2015 1:38pm Edited Date/Time 9/2/2015 1:39pm
Man it is killing me seeing not one but two threads at the same time about former Michigan riders who are struggling so badly in life. Dan knows much more about Brian than me but I did get a great a feeling of pride seeing a kid from the same little town I'm from potentially becoming one of the best riders in the world back in the day. Brian was a pure joy to watch from the other side of the fence and I have to believe he was the fastest most talented guy ever to come out of D14. I wonder about these guys and many more that we don't hear so much about and whether our sport draws an inordinate amount of personality types with the potential to go off the rails at some point. Between pretty much having to be a big risk taker and then possibly getting seriously hurt time and time again and being exposed to the pain and psychological suffering that goes with it It makes me think this is the case. I hate it for these guys and I hope that both of them find their way at some point.
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9/2/2015 2:52pm Edited Date/Time 9/2/2015 2:54pm
Man it is killing me seeing not one but two threads at the same time about former Michigan riders who are struggling so badly in life...
Man it is killing me seeing not one but two threads at the same time about former Michigan riders who are struggling so badly in life. Dan knows much more about Brian than me but I did get a great a feeling of pride seeing a kid from the same little town I'm from potentially becoming one of the best riders in the world back in the day. Brian was a pure joy to watch from the other side of the fence and I have to believe he was the fastest most talented guy ever to come out of D14. I wonder about these guys and many more that we don't hear so much about and whether our sport draws an inordinate amount of personality types with the potential to go off the rails at some point. Between pretty much having to be a big risk taker and then possibly getting seriously hurt time and time again and being exposed to the pain and psychological suffering that goes with it It makes me think this is the case. I hate it for these guys and I hope that both of them find their way at some point.
yeah i feel same way although I think kitsch was the most talented rider to come out of d-14. attitude, lack of guidance and injuries knocked him out before he really showed what he had.

brian was younger than rest of us so didn't hang around him much. I will say this, if you took swink in his prime on the 80's and nick wey in his prime on 80's...they were so damn similar...speed and style was very much alike. both had the same opportunities all the way through....2 complete different endings.

some of our 80A races were amazingly stacked. kitsch, swink, bowen, larocco...

oh and don't forget 6time stanton was d-14. hard to beat his resume.
9/2/2015 3:25pm Edited Date/Time 9/2/2015 5:08pm
They pulled it. Kenny is 0 for 2 .

Great radio bro!

Edit: It's at pulpmx.com
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9/2/2015 4:39pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2019 11:47am
They pulled it. Kenny is 0 for 2 .

Great radio bro!

Edit: It's at pulpmx.com
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9/2/2015 5:01pm
Podcast is on the front page of plump.com now. Guess its back up for you guys who didn't hear it.
9/2/2015 5:45pm Edited Date/Time 9/2/2015 5:45pm
Looking at those box vans, it's hard to imagine the set-ups those guys had. A mid-pack Vet C rider would have a fancier pit set-up these days. And back then a couple crappy box vans in a field was totally impressive.
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9/2/2015 7:20pm Edited Date/Time 9/2/2015 7:22pm
Ramrod wrote:
I've always wondered 2 things about Swink's career: 1. I watched him win a 250 moto at RedBud but moto 2 was a different story. I...
I've always wondered 2 things about Swink's career:

1. I watched him win a 250 moto at RedBud but moto 2 was a different story. I recall people around him after the moto like he was spent, what happened?

2. When he was on Honda of Troy he was on a very solid 250 after being on some sub par Suzuki's at the time. That was a good opportunity or was he over it by then?
Brian Swink as an asset to the Honda of Troy race and had a great relationship with everyone on the team. He and Marshall Plumb were paired up. It is my opinion Brian Swink was far from over it during the HoT days but I've been wrong before.

I do know Brian Swink and Michael Craig were by far the two toughest, never say die types that ever rode for Phil Alderton. It was Dallas or Houston circa 96 and Brian crashed so hard he split his helmet in TWO. Did he pack it in and call it a night? Hell no! The Swinkster grabbed a new helmet dashed to the LCQ and put 'er in the main. I told Brian I was going to start calling him Timex because "he took a licking but kept on ticking!" I also watched Stingray crash in practice at both Mt. Morris and Bercy (97) and a mere mortal would have been stretchered off the track. Stingray fired it back up and kept going.

Best of luck Brian. I have complete faith in you and am blowing my air horn and swinging my t shirt cheering you on. If you read this please tell your mother (Nelda?) I said hello please.
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9/2/2015 7:42pm
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Brian Swink as an asset to the Honda of Troy race and had a great relationship with everyone on the team. He and Marshall Plumb were...
Brian Swink as an asset to the Honda of Troy race and had a great relationship with everyone on the team. He and Marshall Plumb were paired up. It is my opinion Brian Swink was far from over it during the HoT days but I've been wrong before.

I do know Brian Swink and Michael Craig were by far the two toughest, never say die types that ever rode for Phil Alderton. It was Dallas or Houston circa 96 and Brian crashed so hard he split his helmet in TWO. Did he pack it in and call it a night? Hell no! The Swinkster grabbed a new helmet dashed to the LCQ and put 'er in the main. I told Brian I was going to start calling him Timex because "he took a licking but kept on ticking!" I also watched Stingray crash in practice at both Mt. Morris and Bercy (97) and a mere mortal would have been stretchered off the track. Stingray fired it back up and kept going.

Best of luck Brian. I have complete faith in you and am blowing my air horn and swinging my t shirt cheering you on. If you read this please tell your mother (Nelda?) I said hello please.
Good story Rock. I was just thinking that the CR250 back then was the bike MC was winning on and I wondered if that was Swink's best chance in the 250 class? It sounded like the Suzuki 250 and effort wasn't as strong at that time. Regardless, Swink and Craig looked so good on those Honda's back then.

I think Brian should be pumped on his career rather than dwell on his mistakes.

Maybe mental health struggles run in his family with the passing of his father and Brian's state of mind in the podcast was up and down.
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9/2/2015 7:46pm Edited Date/Time 9/2/2015 8:04pm
Ramrod wrote:
I've always wondered 2 things about Swink's career: 1. I watched him win a 250 moto at RedBud but moto 2 was a different story. I...
I've always wondered 2 things about Swink's career:

1. I watched him win a 250 moto at RedBud but moto 2 was a different story. I recall people around him after the moto like he was spent, what happened?

2. When he was on Honda of Troy he was on a very solid 250 after being on some sub par Suzuki's at the time. That was a good opportunity or was he over it by then?
Mx286 wrote:
I was told he ended up having a blood disorder or something?? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told that from a rider...
I was told he ended up having a blood disorder or something?? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told that from a rider I know that use to race with him. He would start strong but fade due to fatigue.
RustyDelux wrote:
My understanding is that he has diabetes. This is was told to me by one of his childhood friends whom I work with. Don't know it...
My understanding is that he has diabetes. This is was told to me by one of his childhood friends whom I work with. Don't know it to be a fact though.
This would make sense.

I was at the race and in the pits and remember seeing him sitting in the ground after the moto with lots of people huddled around him and he seemed spent or distraught. He answered the bell for the next moto but wasn't the same.

I just looked it up and it was redbud 94', he went 39-7 and I think he was up front but dnf'd the moto. That makes more sense. Good thing for the vault, my memory is not good.
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9/2/2015 9:04pm
Addiction is a bitch.

Doesn't seem like Swink is in a place where he's ready to accept help.

Based on that podcast, it seems like he has a lot of angst about his moto career and is blaming it for his station in life. But to me, it sounded like he got a fair shake for the most part, and was responsible for his own choices - as far as teams, etc.

Life is long, and I hope this guy can pull it together for his kid's sake. That was horrifying.
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9/2/2015 9:17pm
He can load a dump truck like a mother f***er though
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9/2/2015 10:31pm
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Rough start to this pod, lots of bro attitude and posturing. Then it got real, fast. I feel for the guy, and he's in a bad...
Rough start to this pod, lots of bro attitude and posturing. Then it got real, fast. I feel for the guy, and he's in a bad place. Not sure anyone can help him but himself at this point. I hope the kids listen to this and pay heed. This stuff is real and you should think before you turn to drink or drug.
Listening to Watson and Swink reminds me of a personal experience. You can tell Kenny wants to do anything to help him, but knows Brian has to decide he wants to fix the problem. Brian obviously had something to drink before recording the podcast.

I figured out a different way to go about it. It wouldn't work for everyone, but it worked with my situation.

I have a friend so close, he's more than a brother. We met while we were in the Marine Corps and became friends quickly. After our first tour, we went on to a Scout Sniper platoon and served our next tour in a team together. We saw some terrible times and some great times. We both hit the bottle pretty hard after our last tour in Afghanistan. When we got out of the Corps, we both went home to opposite sides of the country and picked up local jobs. After 6 or 8 months I took a contractor job and was headed back to the sandbox. On the way over, I stopped through his hometown and hung out for about a week. We did some fishing, target shooting and saw some other friends nearby. I asked him what he was doing and he was pretty straight up about it: drinking, working and living. When I got over to the 'Stan, I worked hard and built a pretty good reputation quickly on the job. As soon as I could, I cashed that in and helped get my friend hired on. He had to put the bottle down to come out and do this work for a few years before returning home. Two years ago I spent a week at his place turkey hunting. He confided in me that I probably saved his life helping him get off the bottle and get into a job he took a lot of pride in helping those young Marines out there. Now he's back home and doing well for himself, has a chick, a house and a good business with his older brother.

9/3/2015 12:27am
That was an incredibly good podcast, well done Kenny.
I can relate and am wishing all the best to Brian.
9/4/2015 4:50am
Definitely an eye opener. I thought it seemed Kenny was implying throughout the broadcast that Swink was "good" now while at the same time it was obvious he had been drinking. Just found it interesting...wonder it Kenny truly knew Swink's current status in life prior to the podcast?

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