Dungey loses 2 times at Red Bud!!!!

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7/7/2015 8:25pm
Thank you. I put a little more thought and effort into this post than I normally do, considering the respect that I have for Ryan and his upcoming St. Jude Ride. He is one of the greatest assets of the moto community and shouldn't be harshly criticized in this instance.

http://belleplaineherald.com/Content/News/Local/Article/Ryan-Dungey-Inv…
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7/7/2015 8:39pm
2 time loser????
Dungey gained 7 points on Roczen,to increase his ponts lead to 44.He ties Barcia with 47 points, and maintains a 63 point lead over him, How do you figure he is a 2 time loser at Red Bud????Because he doesnt cater to every fans demands?
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7/7/2015 8:40pm
Dude, i was there when that pizza dude gave him that free slice lol. You were telling him to tell me and the pizza guy what place he got and he muttered first he was a shy kid. I told him good job buddy lol. Wow, small world.
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7/7/2015 8:50pm
IMO I think it's a bit over the top to blast the guy so bad. Bad role model? No. Maybe he was just having one of those days? Personal problems maybe? Who knows. Kinda over the top to get on here and be so over crytical of him over a damn signature. I'm sure he's signed 1000's of autographs out of free will than not. Seems like you got a lot of love from a lot of other riders and had a great weekend. Just be happy with that.

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7/7/2015 8:51pm
while I think it is too bad about your son not getting his autograph, there are always two sides to every story and I don't understand your need to go on a message board to blast Dungey over this?

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7/7/2015 9:04pm
All three times I have met Dungey he has been awesome, its a bummer you little guy didnt get an autograph, but blasting him online for this without knowing what was going on at the time is not cool.
7/7/2015 9:34pm Edited Date/Time 7/7/2015 9:36pm
Kenny took a picture with my girlfriend at the NJ supercross while he was walking with Pink and Carey. I never saw my girlfriend again after that.. Damn you Kenny.

Dunge is working on his RV personality.
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7/7/2015 9:37pm
Everybody stay calm...
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7/7/2015 10:06pm
Meister wrote:
Bullshit. These guys are idols to many. I don't care if I was stepping into the bathroom about to explode, if some 5 year old kid...
Bullshit.

These guys are idols to many. I don't care if I was stepping into the bathroom about to explode, if some 5 year old kid wanted my autograph, hed damn sure get it.

Approach these guys WHENEVER, and they should respond. If theyre seriously in the middle of something, fine, tell them to come back in a bit. When they do, just sign the damn thing!

You know how many times Jeremy McGrath, doug Henry, Jeff emig, john dowd, and Kevin Windham signed things for me when I was 9 and 10 years old? I can't even remember but at 30 years old I still have them all somewhere.
I have a feeling this was just an incident of bad timing, but I agree with you to a point. I don't feel like they have to sign whenever, but if it's just one kid then I don't see why they wouldn't stop for a moment. I'm just a regular nobody but I do know that a lot of our friend's younger kids look up to me and use me as a bit of a role model, so if they want to go ride bicycles for a bit at the race or just hang out in our camper I make sure to make time for them whenever possible, even if it's the last thing I want to do at that moment just because I know for a little kid it means so much. Obviously pro riders have to deal with this 1000x more frequently, but I think it's important to make time for kids whenever possible. However, I still think this was just very bad timing and doesn't reflect the Dungey we all know, it's a bummer but I'm sure it happens to all of them from time to time.
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7/7/2015 10:15pm
I didn't read through the entire first post or this entire thread , but wanted to give my $.02 here.

I've been in the pits many , many times during the races at Washougal for the national. Very few other people in there unless you have the right credentials and I see and walk right by a lot of racers during that time. I've never asked them for an autograph during those times , because they are " on the job " focusing on the job at hand. IF I waned their autograph , I would wait until after the races were well over and done , or first thing in the morning.

Dungey has always been a fan favorite with " the fans " because he's extremely approachable and just a good dude. I can totally understand why there are times during race day where he wouldn't want to sign autographs. Yeah it sucks it was your kid , but not all the riders are accessible 24/7 at the races. People need to understand they are there to do there job first , then hang out with the crowd 2nd.

Like I said , my $.02.
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7/7/2015 10:21pm
Meister wrote:
Bullshit. These guys are idols to many. I don't care if I was stepping into the bathroom about to explode, if some 5 year old kid...
Bullshit.

These guys are idols to many. I don't care if I was stepping into the bathroom about to explode, if some 5 year old kid wanted my autograph, hed damn sure get it.

Approach these guys WHENEVER, and they should respond. If theyre seriously in the middle of something, fine, tell them to come back in a bit. When they do, just sign the damn thing!

You know how many times Jeremy McGrath, doug Henry, Jeff emig, john dowd, and Kevin Windham signed things for me when I was 9 and 10 years old? I can't even remember but at 30 years old I still have them all somewhere.
You are called an " en-titlist "....you think because you ride dirt bikes and pay to get through the gate , that entitles you to rub elbows all day long with the riders? I hate to say this , but they owe you absolutely jack shit. This was a rare occasion for RD , as seen a million times before. He didn't have times because it sounded like he was in a hurry. Didn't have time for that one kid , it sucks , but guess what , there were plenty of other kids that didn't get one either.

Give me a fucking break!
7/7/2015 10:32pm
I don't understand the "I don't have time@ comment. It takes 3 seconds to sign your signature.
7/7/2015 10:51pm Edited Date/Time 7/7/2015 10:58pm
One bad encounter does not draw a detailed picture of how a person is. I'm sure like many other riders you'd get a signature and a chat on his good day.

I've bumped into a few pro former and current mxgp riders on our home tracks. I always leave them alone, give them a nod or a friendly hello if they notice me, but that's it. If they want to make time to have a chat i'l be happy they do (Strijbos and Breugelmans are genuine chill dudes), but i don't expect them to do it because of their job.
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7/7/2015 10:59pm
next week he's hosting a charity ride after hammering 2 motos at millville.

tell your 5 year old he was tired and needed to get his rest to raise thousands of dollars for children battling cancer.


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7/7/2015 11:05pm
For the whole time they are at the races, these guys are on the job - and that job is putting on a show for the fans. There is a reason EVERY other rider or manager signed the trophy - it's their job as a part of the show. Its not all about the racing - it's a whole weekend event and the lure of motocross and bringing the family over is that everyone is approachable and friendly.

Sure an off-day, if that's what it is - but those saying he's right to do this? To a 5-year old on a KTM who won his class? It's bordering on non-performanceIIn his job. I'm sure if anyone from KTM is reading this they wouldn't be happy about it.
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7/7/2015 11:39pm
Jspazz wrote:
For the whole time they are at the races, these guys are on the job - and that job is putting on a show for the...
For the whole time they are at the races, these guys are on the job - and that job is putting on a show for the fans. There is a reason EVERY other rider or manager signed the trophy - it's their job as a part of the show. Its not all about the racing - it's a whole weekend event and the lure of motocross and bringing the family over is that everyone is approachable and friendly.

Sure an off-day, if that's what it is - but those saying he's right to do this? To a 5-year old on a KTM who won his class? It's bordering on non-performanceIIn his job. I'm sure if anyone from KTM is reading this they wouldn't be happy about it.
Spot on. His job isn't only to win races for KTM but also to promote the brand in the best possible way. This was not one of them.
7/7/2015 11:50pm
I had the opportunity to meet Ryan and his wife away from the MX track environment (oddly enough, it was pretty random running into him in LA) just before Hangtown. He was one of the most genuine, down to earth, polite people I have ever met. I talked to him for a few minutes, he shook my hand, and was simply fantastic. I congratulated him on the SX championship and wished him the best of luck in the outdoors. I didn't ask for his autograph or anything like that and I didn't have my son or daughter with me. Dungey was just a great young man. His wife was really nice too.

I'd say the OP must have just caught him at the wrong time. It happens sometimes. Cut the guy some slack.

Depending on what's going on in my little world at any point in time, I can be either the nicest guy on the planet or the biggest jackoff there is. It happens to everyone.
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7/8/2015 12:39am
It is ridiculous for anybody to be condemning Dungey based on a one-sided story. Many of the posters in this thread have probably never even been to an AMA national, nevermind RedBud on the Fourth of July. The throng of people surrounding the KTM pit area can be enormous. Do any of you know how the OP approached Dungey? If somebody, in a crowd of revelers, wearing a jester hat , is yelling, "Hey Ryan...Ryan...hey Dungey," spilling beer all over the place, while Ryan is trying to make his way to the mule, which is waiting to transport him to the starting area, obviously this would not be the way to go about getting his autograph. I'm not saying that this is the case, but it wouldn't surprise me if Ryan had a completely different version of the events. I can understand some compassion for the OP, but can't imagine that Dungey is deserving of some of the criticism coming thru in this thread. It is, at the very least, inconsiderate to approach the racers for an autograph, outside of their greeting hours, during the race program. If it was convenient for Ryan to accommodate the gentleman, most likely he would have. Dungey deserves the benefit of the doubt here, his reputation with the fans has earned him that, assuredly.
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willie838 wrote:
next week he's hosting a charity ride after hammering 2 motos at millville. tell your 5 year old he was tired and needed to get his...
next week he's hosting a charity ride after hammering 2 motos at millville.

tell your 5 year old he was tired and needed to get his rest to raise thousands of dollars for children battling cancer.


fucken this!!!!

bad role model? ridiculous statement.. Just because someone doesn't take time out of their day for something you want, it doesn't make them a bad person
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7/8/2015 1:05am
Remember this is the guy that last year was asking every kid to take 5 min of their time to vote for him so he could be on the cover of a a Wheaties box.

Who's the entitled one again?
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So we hit up Red bud for the 4th of July spectacular, the coveted Pro National! We had a fantastic time! Arrived weds night, practiced thursday...
So we hit up Red bud for the 4th of July spectacular, the coveted Pro National! We had a fantastic time! Arrived weds night, practiced thursday 5 sessions, raced one class friday, Austin raced friday night and Austin and Ayla raced sat night! We had VIP tickets in the North tent which is worth every penny. We cruised the pits all day and talked to many riders. As you can see we dressed the part. Unfortunately I dont have a good shot with my daughter also.







Friday night Austin pulled a holeshot and gave a clinic to the wobbler class! He was sooooo excited! Got a $50 lucas oil certificate, a Sunstar sprockets hat, a bunch of stickers and even free pizza from one of the vendors. Spoils go to the winner!







So being the good Dad I tell him we will get some of the pros to sign his first place trophy. He really wanted Ryan Dungey's because he rides a KTM and Austin just got one too, plus he wins a lot he said. OK....Dad is on a mission! So saturday the boy and I are off to the pits about 9am, we start staking out which trailers to hit up..... After the first praactice session we catch up with Cooper Webb under his tent talking with his mechanic about the bike. I walk over and ask him to sign Austins trophy from the night before. He gladly does so and congratulates him on his win. Webb was still in his gear minus his jersey and was a great guy to take the time to talk with us. Next we hit up Cristophe Pourcel. Now people like to say he is a bit too good for fans sometimes, not in our case. We got the same greeting from him also! Good guy and polite to us. He was very particular about the handle bars and how tight he wanted his steering stem though.

Brock tickle was the first rider we got to after the first 450 practice. He came right over and signed also. Next was Blake Baggett, we couldnt find Roczen so we went to the JGR tent. Barcia was on board with signing for us. We cruised by the KTM rig and hung out a bit but no Dungey. Off the the RCH rig again, no Roczen so we walked around the corner to his RV. There were a few women sitting out there in chairs talking, I asked them if Ken was in the RV, if so would he sign my sons trophy. One lady jumped right up and said he was busy getting ready for the next practice and probably in his underwear but she would get him to sign it. Sure enough he did! By this point Austin is jumping for joy .... but he wants Dungey's. We go watch some more practice and when done off to the KTM rig again. A while after the practice we see Dungey aitting on his RV steps. We walk over and I give Austin his trophy to ask the Dunge for his signature. When he sees us coming he immediately says NO!..... I stop about 15-20 ft away so Im not intruding and explain to him Austin was 5 and just won the wobbler class the night before ... he really wanted to get your autograph. Without even a moments hesitation he tells us NO....you need to leave now ...no....I dont have time, please leave. Later I will.... leave now. Ok.... he is tired and wants to rest, eat , whatever. If you know how 5 year olds work you know Austin couldnt understand why he didnt sign it. I explain about how tired he must be and he said we could get it later. We watched all the exciting racing that day, as most of you know it was great all day!

After the motos we head back over to the pits. We see Zach Osbourn and he talked to us a minute while signing his trophy. We stop by Dungeys trailer but he isnt around, Marvin wasnt either. We ran into Aldon Baker and talked with him. Nice guy and he acted surprised when we asked for his autograph. Back to KTM, no Dungey. We see DeCoster, when he was finished talking with the mechanics I asked him over. Super great guy, very friendly and talkative. He gladly signed for Austin and expressed how it was cool he had won his race. I asked him if Dungey was around and would be out later to sign it also. He said to be patient and that he would be out and take care of us. He assured us the wait would pay off. So another 30-45 mins go by, no Dungey. Finally we walked around the corner to look at his RV... he came out from there and was walking across the road to the other KTM rig. I again asked him to sign, he turned and looked at us ( it was Ayla and I at this point as Austin was napping to get ready for his race). He had to have recognized me and my outfit/hat from before, surely he would sign. NO he said, I dont have time. Sorry.... NO.... and quickly walked away from us.

The first time I asked him there were no other people any where around us, the second time there was one other person there who also wanted an autograph. It wasnt like he was mobbed and the second time was an hour after his last moto... he was showered and clean. We got a great plaque with really fantastic autographs from the race, it just stinks that Dungey couldnt take the time to sign a trophy for a 5 year old boy. Terrible role model as Austin still doesnt understand why Ryan wouldnt sign it. Especially since Ryan is portrayed as the clean cut all american boy who takes the time for everybody, in reality he was the ONLY rider we asked that wouldnt take the time.





Thanks for nothing Dungey, you are a great rider but a terrible role model and spokes person for your sponsors. You lost 4 fans in my family this past weekend. Fortunately we still had one of the best race experiences to date!

So now you have the opportunity to teach your child that hero worship isn't all it's cracked up to be in the first place. Also, you can teach him that autographs aren't obligatory, so he won't expect to be given everything he wants in life. If your reaction is to stop being a Dungey fan over this, you're teaching him the exact opposite. You're feeding into the entitlement culture that so many belong to.

Maybe using this as an example of how focused a champion is even with a big points lead would be a better lesson to teach from this situation.
7/8/2015 1:20am
It's too bad your son didn't get Dungey's autograph as well.

There's a reason the pits used to be closed to the fans at all times though, now some people take the open pits as a fulll on meet and great event that never ends.
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7/8/2015 2:22am Edited Date/Time 7/8/2015 5:27am
Perfect reason why the pits should be closed during the event.

Next time jump out on the track and flag him down. He's on the job out there too.

Oh and while you were trying to bug Roczen he was actually on vendor row sitting under a tent signing autographs. Imagine that. But since the girl didn't want to let this demanding guy's kid down...Congrats on getting Roczen's mechanic's sister's version of Roczen's autograph.
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7/8/2015 2:52am
Probably not great timing, but at the end of the day he's paid by his sponsors to help sell bikes and gear to people that want to ride and wear the same equipment that he does. Take 10 damn seconds to acknowledge the kid and sign his damn trophy. This is why pastrana has a huge fan base in motocross compared to the other guys.
7/8/2015 2:53am
I`d bet you will never read a story like this about travis pastrana, good or bad day he would go out of his way for 3 seconds. he was the all american mx hero right there
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7/8/2015 5:10am Edited Date/Time 7/8/2015 5:20am
I wonder if the goal of this public airing of a minor incident is to get RD's or KTM's attention so perhaps they'll "right the wrong" with a jersey or maybe even an autographed championship bike. Wink


Op, congrats to your son on a good race. You and he spending time together is important. The rest is minor details.
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7/8/2015 5:29am
You sure are ballsy, that what the autograph session is for, I don't have the balls to use a kid to stock riders
back to their RV etc...
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7/8/2015 5:34am
I have talked to Ryan a many of times and has always been friendly. He was prob just having a bad day so get off your high horse, bro
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7/8/2015 5:39am
get real OP, you do realize he is trying to stay focused on putting in perfect laps for 2 motos on race day? Pretty lame on you to come on here and start bashing him. You have no clue of reality apparently, you just so caught up with getting a sig that you fail to realize your entering his workspace during his working hours....
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7/8/2015 5:40am Edited Date/Time 7/8/2015 6:05am
What appleman said!

But this guy may be trying to teach every rider that there is a reaction to their reaction!

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