Let's hear ideas on getting new riders/fans to the races

The Rock
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Edited Date/Time 7/4/2015 7:50am
I have wondered for years why promoters don't reach out to the Boy's Scouts, Cub Scouts, Girls Scouts, Brownies, etc with free tickets? For SX and MX it would be better IMHO to give tickets away to 1) increase food and drink sales and more importantly 2) hopefully hook people to the sport by exposing it to them in person.

With all of the competing (and less dangerous) options for youth's time we need to start being creative on how we can plant the seeds today for the riders and fans we need to keep the best sport on the planet growing and healthy. Having loop trails at MX tracks for beginners would be a big help. We are promoting the most addictive drug in the world (MX adrenaline) and we need to get samples out to potential new customers.

On a related note I've also thought about how we challenge ourselves to take one new person (at a minimum) to a race per year? If we all introduced a newbie to the sport each year that would help a tad eh? We'd need promoter help and honesty from the MX community if promoters started a first timer discount program. I buy a ticket then get one half off for someone that has never been to an event before.

Just brainstorming....least trying to but it feels more like cloudy skies at the moment. Been dwelling on this since the local moto thread popped up.
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Hookers and drugs could work?
The Rock
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7/2/2015 10:23am
True but those are both expense items. :-)

I am looking to "give" things away there are no hard costs associated with but have high value like free tickets. Promoters can make money from parking and concession sales but first they need the bodies pulling into their facilities.
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7/2/2015 10:25am
I wrote a proposal for IndyCar that they should have each team visit a different local high school on Thursday before each race, and give every student free tickets and pit passes for practice day. They will sell a lot of food and drinks, plus some of those kids will catch the fever and come back on race day for many years.

Supercross runs during the school year, doesn't have a practice day, and is basically sold out. For the Nationals, I like your idea of giving free tickets to Boy Scouts and other youth groups. Enough for the troop and a few parents. Anything to get more potential fans engaged.
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7/2/2015 10:29am
I brought one of my non moto bros to Millville last year and he didn't seem to dig it. Too much walking for him I think. Idk I guess its not for everybody. SX is a lot better place to showcase the sport to new comers imo.

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7/2/2015 10:32am Edited Date/Time 7/2/2015 10:34am
The too much walking deal is why the had to lower the standards for military basic training. These kids today are SOFT from having their faces stuck to a display all the time indoors.

Holigan-Thanks for the feedback Michael
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7/2/2015 10:39am
Riders and fans are two different things.

You could get more riders if somehow the sport was more affordable and there are more places to practice. Both are clearly difficult to accomplish.

And now are we talking fans at pro races or at the local Podunk track?

Podunk tracks could run all sorts of special promotions but advertising is very expensive and while the prices of everything have gone up, attending a National or Supercross is a lot more expensive than going to the movies.

I think they need to balance the spectacle (sx) with the cost to the spectators.
7/2/2015 10:45am Edited Date/Time 7/2/2015 10:46am
I sat beside some people in Atlanta. A guy and his son were into moto, and he brought his friend and his friend's daughter along. Both of the guys were in their mid-40s, and the kids were around 10. It was the first time going to SX for the one guy and his daughter, the other guy and his son had been several times. The new guy said to his buddy, "All they do is talk. They ride for 5 minutes then talk for another 20 minutes." Unlike him, I(and his buddy) know how the races work(heats, semis, LCQs, mains, track maintenance etc), but I think for newcomers there's a lot of breaks in the action. I think Nitro Circus would've been a better fit for them. Or Maybe they're used to NASCAR where once the racing starts it doesn't really stop until it's over. Not sure what changes could be made to keep the action going and keep people's attention, just thought I'd share what I heard a first timer saying about his SX experience.
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I ran a meeting as a festival, two days of racing with live music and a bar in the evenings, aimed at family's.
You could try all sorts inc a classic car/bike show n shine, auto jumble/swap meet, fair ground rides, sat eve pit bike racing, free tickets to people who live near the track and might otherwise have cause to complain (noise, dust etc).
I also sold event stickers/flyers on eBay in the build up and reached a massive global audience with a few key words in the description.
We ended up with over 4000 people attending from as far away as South Africa and Australia and a deal with sky TVs motors channel that shows mxgp in the UK, all for a vintage/evo meeting that was meant to be for a couple of hundred locals... The sky's the limit if you put the effort in.
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7/2/2015 11:21am
I think a good bleacher system located where you could see a good portion of the track. I know now days, you have to get on the fence for a good view, and if you get there when the crowd is already settled in, it's hard to find a good viewing spot.
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Tell them it's a party atmosphere. Hot girls, beer, the great outdoors and dudes shredding motorcycles. Maybe have a popular band play after??
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7/2/2015 11:36am
More gate drops with top riders, shorter moto's so it is less boring, tracks that have less lap time separation between have's and have not's.

Action sports are in, short attention span You-tube generation must be served.
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Hookers and drugs could work?
leave Kessie out of this bro
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7/2/2015 12:42pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2015 12:44pm
More gate drops with top riders, shorter moto's so it is less boring, tracks that have less lap time separation between have's and have not's. Action...
More gate drops with top riders, shorter moto's so it is less boring, tracks that have less lap time separation between have's and have not's.

Action sports are in, short attention span You-tube generation must be served.
Exactly.
I was smitten as a 13 y/o when invited to muddy, sloppy Trans AMA race at Rio Bravo Hou, TX.
Nobody needed to entice me, talk it up, explain much of anything. I WAS HOOKED THAT DAY. 58 yrs old and still faithfully follow moto!

Today's generation NEEDS to be entertained and coddled. Times have definitely changed.....pfftt
They can't get there faces out of there smart phones.
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5 minute moto, 5 minute nap. Repeat...
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We need to get back to the family. Kids need to see races. My dad brought me to races. I won't say that's the only reason I ride but it's a big one. Marketing needs to change.

We need a lites class and a open class! Talent is spread damn thin.

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SEE ARE125 wrote:
I sat beside some people in Atlanta. A guy and his son were into moto, and he brought his friend and his friend's daughter along. Both...
I sat beside some people in Atlanta. A guy and his son were into moto, and he brought his friend and his friend's daughter along. Both of the guys were in their mid-40s, and the kids were around 10. It was the first time going to SX for the one guy and his daughter, the other guy and his son had been several times. The new guy said to his buddy, "All they do is talk. They ride for 5 minutes then talk for another 20 minutes." Unlike him, I(and his buddy) know how the races work(heats, semis, LCQs, mains, track maintenance etc), but I think for newcomers there's a lot of breaks in the action. I think Nitro Circus would've been a better fit for them. Or Maybe they're used to NASCAR where once the racing starts it doesn't really stop until it's over. Not sure what changes could be made to keep the action going and keep people's attention, just thought I'd share what I heard a first timer saying about his SX experience.
My friends every year at the ATL SX say the same thing... they go and enjoy bunt don't really understand why they see the "bad" riders more than the good riders. Their words, not mine

At the nationals, viewing sucks. Needs more bleachers, even LL's needs better bleachers as not everyone have a $10K golf cart to sit in
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7/2/2015 2:22pm
it's the 4 stroke's fault. Bring back 2 strokes.

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if moto was big,like soccer,it would be banned.

there would be a need for more tracks,or really crowded tracks.

the injuries and deaths would be high profile,look at soccer.

so,at that time your dirt people,tree humpers,carbon footers,RC16s,lawyers would be all up in motos grill.

be glad we are small and still get to do this shit.
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Monster girls half naked, loud metal music, more fire, riders are armed with bats, blades, maces. Bring back the sponsors with deeper pockets; Beer & Cigarettes. Make Gwar the in house band. As the influx of money comes the riders can make more, lower tier riders can as well, health insurance will be provided. It will attract top talent & bring MMA to sport merging them into the worlds favorite sport!
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hillbilly wrote:
if moto was big,like soccer,it would be banned. there would be a need for more tracks,or really crowded tracks. the injuries and deaths would be high...
if moto was big,like soccer,it would be banned.

there would be a need for more tracks,or really crowded tracks.

the injuries and deaths would be high profile,look at soccer.

so,at that time your dirt people,tree humpers,carbon footers,RC16s,lawyers would be all up in motos grill.

be glad we are small and still get to do this shit.
I tend to lean towards this. If it was bigger, everyone would be like "why do we have these super fast and well-suspended bikes but safety technology hasn't kept pace"? They would have a great point, and legislative action could be a real possibility. Especially at the amateur level.
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I know those years in the late 80s and 90s when alll those breasts were set free at Washougal my pack grew exponentially...
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7/2/2015 6:54pm
Give free admission to the local city residents.
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Better jobs for young people (and all), and more affordable bikes. I think there has the be another level of bikes. 2 strokes and older technology fours, new price. 99% of people riding an 08 can't outride it. Sell the 08 as a 2016 for four grand, get more people riding again.
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Free Beer. Seriously though, I've spoken on it before, but no one really cares unless they ride. I literally know 1 person that watches the races and doesn't/didn't ride. He was a roomate of mine and he lived in a house of moto heads. Even then, most people I know that ride don't follow the races. I hate to be negative about it, but the peak has passed. There's crazy development all over the place, tracks are disapeering left and right. Every single riding spot that we had growing up is gone. All of them, with the exception of E-town. Chatsworth ORV park, all the pits around our town, all the trail for the most part is gone. I remember in the late 90s/early 2000s it seemed like everyone in school had a bike or quad. Nowadays I guarantee that back home there's no one with a bike. The hey-days of 4 moto games on the market at the same time, action figures, etc. The wow is gone for the civilian in the equation. Kids grew up with the X-games, they don't care anymore. The wanna play minecraft and bury their face in an iPad 8 hours a day. I (We) used to jump our huffy's off of a ramp made of plywood and a cinder block at 5 years old and getting a dirt bike was like getting a fucking golden Mercedes. It's just different.
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7/2/2015 8:12pm
How about getting old riders and old fans back into it. Its such a pita to go watch a race anymore.. How about AMA life members get the parking VIP, bleacher seats,etc. thinking about my dads friends who started racing in the 70s, and none of them go..but they still race/ride.
Im with Hillbilly.
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7/2/2015 8:18pm
For me I'd go often if I was able to walk the track or at least get close to more than one place, to just sit behind the fences they put up sucks. I do a bit of photography and hate that I can't walk around the track and get to see different angles.
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7/2/2015 8:33pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2015 8:34pm
Xracerdone wrote:
Monster girls half naked, loud metal music, more fire, riders are armed with bats, blades, maces. Bring back the sponsors with deeper pockets; Beer & Cigarettes...
Monster girls half naked, loud metal music, more fire, riders are armed with bats, blades, maces. Bring back the sponsors with deeper pockets; Beer & Cigarettes. Make Gwar the in house band. As the influx of money comes the riders can make more, lower tier riders can as well, health insurance will be provided. It will attract top talent & bring MMA to sport merging them into the worlds favorite sport!
No gwar without Dave! Was oderus the last original member?
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7/2/2015 8:39pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2015 8:50pm
Running Race around the track after the races, winner gets autographed rider jersey of their choice,entry free free with pit pass purchase.
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7/2/2015 8:42pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2015 8:44pm
The Rock already touched on this but I recently purchased two tickets for me and the old man for the PGA Championship at Whistling Straits. For each of our tickets, we are allowed to bring up to four juniors (17 and under) to the event for free. I thought that was pretty neat (Golf is in a similar situation and really making a push to get more youth involved). Granted, the tickets were overpriced at $95 a pop (hey...it's not everyday a major rolls through town and I've never been to a PGA event) but something similar could be incorporated for the Nationals. And no, I'm definitely not suggesting $95 tickets.

But on the other hand, I tend to agree with Hillbilly on this.

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7/2/2015 8:43pm
Get Disney involved,those fuckers can turn anything into the next big idea.

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