Ideas and suggestions to make SX better

MX45
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Cut the tuff blocks in half so they are half as tall. Allowing them to be ridden over and landed on with out ruining your night.
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All mud races
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Jarid332 wrote:
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Bear cage?

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4/5/2015 3:59pm
I don't think there needs to be any radical changes to the point system or any throw-away rounds. I do agree that the speeds need to be lowered. The high speed rhythm sections are the most dangerous (think Wil Hahn's last two crashes). Maybe add some deeper sand sections, walls, uneven rhythms, etc. The one big change I would recommend would be to put the premier class on 250Fs and the regional classes on 125Ts. This solves a lot of problems:

1. Most people think the 450 is too much bike indoors, anyway. Putting the premier racers on 250Fs isn't going to hurt their lap times at all.
2. Making the support classes ride 125Ts would give the top amateurs a real reason to develop their skills on one. This means an easier transition to to 250Fs for the young guys.
3. The two classes would sound a lot different and look a lot different because the 125s probably aren't jumping the same obsticles.
4, Taking the top guys off of the 450s will probably make them try the impossible less often (Roczen probably doesn't go for ill-fated jump in Oakland if he is on a 250).
5. Go ahead and keep the outdoor nationals 250F/450F, there is no reason to change the displacements in that series.
6. Hopefully, all of this will keep the top guys healthier all season - and that is the one thing that will make the racing much better.


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- Superpole system for qualification

- more racing from top guys during an evening: scrapping semis and multiple main event races for each venue
4/5/2015 4:33pm
1, Production rule on tires.
2. 25 minute moto for 450f/ 20 minute moto for 250f
3. Limit data that can be collected during practice and races.
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12-13 Round Championship, when was the last time the series was over by the 12th round. (probably happened but not often)

Start the SX season two weeks later and still leave a 3-4 week break for Out-Door testing before the MX season commences.

That still leaves 25 weeks of racing action for the year and could leave some time for some big off one event races like the Monster Energy Cup, Red Bull Straight Rhythm and maybe some new races to pop up.

As for the races themselves on a weekly basis, re prep the track before the main events so it looks like it does when the first 250 heat race hits the track! Let the fastest 22 riders start on a groomed track and carve in the lines having the track completely change from lap one to lap 20. - May or may not work, just a thought.

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Jarid332 wrote:
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JPT wrote:
Bear cage?
Now we're talking!
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4/5/2015 4:53pm
The thing that I'd really like to see is split the 450 main into two 10 lap mains and award points for both like outdoors.
One before the 250 main and one right after.
4/5/2015 5:12pm
Can the whole SX extravaganza and make outdoor motocross the real sport again. Then for the ones who can't ride MX just have a arena/fight club type" ride till the last one standing", no rules...now that's entertainment and it gets rid of all the girly SX crap!
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Ditch the timed practices and go back to racing to make it into the night show. I couldn't give a shit who can do the fastest lap, I want to see the gate drop and watch a RACE. The track changes every lap so comparing everyone's best "hot lap" to qualify seems kind of dumb (to me anyway) Line em up, drop the gate and X amount move on, and X amount go to the next round. It's racing, I want to watch a race, not someone trying to do "One superfast lap" in practice.
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I know I'll get ripped for this, but here goes.
Start 2 rows, 10 fastest guys in front. I know it's exciting to see 20 bikes start heads up, but that only lasts for 10 seconds. Then it's back to the 2 or 3 guys up front for the most part. I would gladly give up the 20 bike start to see 20 laps of good racing.

I'd like to see all the fast guys up front for once, instead of it all depending on the start. If you don't get a real good start your pretty much f****d in SX!
I think it would be a lot more entertaining and fun to watch instead of the snooze fests we've been seeing. All other forms of racing do some form of this. Reward the fast guys.

A chase would be awesome too, imo.

And bs on the "tradition" crap.
Sports constantly have to evolve or they die out. Hell, even baseball is looking for ways to speed the game up and improve the product. The NFL is always tweeking things to make the game better. Like changing the rules to increase passing. Nascar added the chase. NHL and NBA changed the rules to get rid of grabbing to speed the game up and make it more entertaining. Notice a trend?
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sumdood wrote:
Ditch the timed practices and go back to racing to make it into the night show. I couldn't give a shit who can do the fastest...
Ditch the timed practices and go back to racing to make it into the night show. I couldn't give a shit who can do the fastest lap, I want to see the gate drop and watch a RACE. The track changes every lap so comparing everyone's best "hot lap" to qualify seems kind of dumb (to me anyway) Line em up, drop the gate and X amount move on, and X amount go to the next round. It's racing, I want to watch a race, not someone trying to do "One superfast lap" in practice.
I agree with this 100%.

All the other suggestions in here are equivalent to a shark tank in the 3rd turn.
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I think It would be better if it ran on a two moto format like outdoors. Maybe two 15 min. + 2 lap mains for the 450's and 12min + 2 lap for the 250's
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Model pro dirt bike racing after pro golf. Semi one off events with huge purses like the Monster Cup.
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Make every one run bikes closer to stock
I see no reason to give the faster guys
an advantage with better bikes
Factory bikes
/guico/pc bikes.

run stock motors and suspension
would
1 slow things down
2 make it more affordable for every one
3 make it fair

if this happened it wouldn't be a surprise to see a privateer get an occasional win


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Timed main events
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4/6/2015 2:11pm
Tarz483 wrote:
Make every one run bikes closer to stock I see no reason to give the faster guys an advantage with better bikes Factory bikes /guico/pc bikes...
Make every one run bikes closer to stock
I see no reason to give the faster guys
an advantage with better bikes
Factory bikes
/guico/pc bikes.

run stock motors and suspension
would
1 slow things down
2 make it more affordable for every one
3 make it fair

if this happened it wouldn't be a surprise to see a privateer get an occasional win


Privateers are privateers because they are not as skilled as the top guys. On stock bikes they are still at a disadvantage.
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MR. X wrote:
Im confused how a throw away round would work. Isnt having a shitty week equivalent to a "throw"away?
Think mulligan.

There are no mulligans in motocross and Supercross.
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What the hell is wrong with u people stop with all the bullshit post already there is nothing wrong with sxand nothing to.change why do y'all keep going with this 2 Stokes are gone and not comeing back to pro racing tracks are good to go slowlying down bikes and tracks wont do.any thing to stop.injury in this sport get over it peps stop trying to bring the sport down with bull shit its already a small industry if u go and slow shit down and take away the good tracks Tv wont want to cover it and fans wont pay to see it this is how this sport is and its how its gunna stay so y'all.might as well get use to it end of story.
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moose man wrote:
What the hell is wrong with u people stop with all the bullshit post already there is nothing wrong with sxand nothing to.change why do y'all...
What the hell is wrong with u people stop with all the bullshit post already there is nothing wrong with sxand nothing to.change why do y'all keep going with this 2 Stokes are gone and not comeing back to pro racing tracks are good to go slowlying down bikes and tracks wont do.any thing to stop.injury in this sport get over it peps stop trying to bring the sport down with bull shit its already a small industry if u go and slow shit down and take away the good tracks Tv wont want to cover it and fans wont pay to see it this is how this sport is and its how its gunna stay so y'all.might as well get use to it end of story.
Grinning Grinning
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Tarz483 wrote:
Make every one run bikes closer to stock I see no reason to give the faster guys an advantage with better bikes Factory bikes /guico/pc bikes...
Make every one run bikes closer to stock
I see no reason to give the faster guys
an advantage with better bikes
Factory bikes
/guico/pc bikes.

run stock motors and suspension
would
1 slow things down
2 make it more affordable for every one
3 make it fair

if this happened it wouldn't be a surprise to see a privateer get an occasional win


Facepalm, you don't think Dungey on a stock bike is going to beat partridge on a stock bike?
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4/6/2015 3:54pm Edited Date/Time 4/6/2015 3:54pm
moose man wrote:
What the hell is wrong with u people stop with all the bullshit post already there is nothing wrong with sxand nothing to.change why do y'all...
What the hell is wrong with u people stop with all the bullshit post already there is nothing wrong with sxand nothing to.change why do y'all keep going with this 2 Stokes are gone and not comeing back to pro racing tracks are good to go slowlying down bikes and tracks wont do.any thing to stop.injury in this sport get over it peps stop trying to bring the sport down with bull shit its already a small industry if u go and slow shit down and take away the good tracks Tv wont want to cover it and fans wont pay to see it this is how this sport is and its how its gunna stay so y'all.might as well get use to it end of story.
U r rite.their is nothing.to see hearmove along.
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4/6/2015 4:00pm Edited Date/Time 4/6/2015 4:01pm
Stopping Lurch from screaming. Love the guy's work and energy but hate the scream as the gate drops.

For the children's sake please make it stop :-)
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4/6/2015 4:30pm Edited Date/Time 4/6/2015 4:30pm
Shorten the number of races to 10......then add more outdoor racesCheerful
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4/6/2015 6:51pm
Add one "Big Air" jump per track.

Keep the Pits open.

Sell better pit shirts, jersey's and hats that match team gear.

Water down a couple of areas.
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4/6/2015 7:20pm
Remove pointless races from night program. No pun intended.

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Bring in more dirt to allow for more variations. Such as elevated turns. More table to tables. Ect...All triples should be single to tables IMO.
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I said this in another thread a few days ago, but now that I've slept on it I like the idea even more.

- After Easter break, the "Finals" (last 5-6 rounds) pay more points (75-100? to the winner). The weighted system provides some excitement heading into the end of the series, even if you have a points run away during the "regular season."

- NO points reset - everybody keeps what they earned the first 2/3 of the season.

- 2-3 points for heat race wins.

- NO throw aways. It makes the points too confusing.

It could work. I love SX, but right now I'm not even all that excited about the rest of the season because it is a foregone conclusion what is going to happen, and that seems to be the case most years. A weighted finals system rewards both consistency in the regular season AND bravado down the stretch.

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