Never hear of broken naviculars anymore?

Aceofspades
Edited Date/Time 1/31/2015 11:00am
I remember back in the 80's that Hannah, ward, omara, and maybe others at one time or another had broken navicular bones in their wrists. Any reason why we never hear of that particular injury? As I recall it was particularly nasty because there was very minimal blood flow around the area which made it take forever to heal.
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hillbilly 1/29/2015 7:47pm
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I seem to have a memory of RV2 breaking his and fusing it,right one. And bagget maybe.

I had injured myself in morning practice at gatorback and was sitting on top of my bus filming with a new camcorder ,it was a big vhs thing,the battery was bigger than any camcorder today,but anyway,I was filming RJ at the very moment storbeck landed on him.

Continued filming as he walk3d to a ambulance near me and a huge crowd gathered. Could tell it was not good. Still have that tape somewhere.
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bigborefan 1/29/2015 7:51pm
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It's called the scaphoid now. I broke mine this summer. No long term problems so far.
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jeffro503 1/29/2015 8:00pm
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Funny how a little bone the size of a bean....if not healed correctly can damn near end the career of a rider. They take a LONG time to heal correctly.

Have you guys heard of the surgery where they cut your hand open , surgically tie a vein to the side of the bone for a faster healing process? Supposed to cut the healing time down quite a bit.
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slackinoff 1/29/2015 8:57pm
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No, but I was just thinking to myself why they couldn't pipe a vein into the area.

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FlickitFlat 1/29/2015 9:10pm
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Isn't that the wrist problems JS7 had a couple of years ago?
swedishfishmx 1/29/2015 9:33pm
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I broke mine pretty good a couple years ago. Bothers me everyday. Sometimes it's really bad and I can't pull in the clutch.
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mark_swart 1/29/2015 9:58pm
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FlickitFlat wrote:
Isn't that the wrist problems JS7 had a couple of years ago?
That's what I was thinking too... maybe his first year in the big class?
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50dippin 1/29/2015 10:02pm
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The navicular typically refers to the same bone as the scaphoid but in the foot. I shattered mine and it took well over a year to walk normally again.
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bvm111 1/29/2015 11:03pm
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Scaphoid is Greek derived and navicular Latin.... Same bone

Broke mine in 2001 and had the screw put in and forced my "retirement" from ok local rider status until last year when i came out of retirement into the used to pretty ok and sort of fast old fat vet rider class! Woohoo Tongue
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bd 1/29/2015 11:36pm
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Didn't that injury end RJ's career?

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bvm111 wrote:
Scaphoid is Greek derived and navicular Latin.... Same bone Broke mine in 2001 and had the screw put in and forced my "retirement" from ok local...
Scaphoid is Greek derived and navicular Latin.... Same bone

Broke mine in 2001 and had the screw put in and forced my "retirement" from ok local rider status until last year when i came out of retirement into the used to pretty ok and sort of fast old fat vet rider class! Woohoo Tongue
That's funny!

Broke mine in '85 when I hit a downed bike tapped out in third after a downhill jump. Went superman for quite a few feet then landed hands first on the ground. Knew it wasn't good. Doctors blew the diagnosis on the x-Ray and raced for another 4 weeks with a taped wrist. By the time they caught it, it had started to heal in an offset position. It's done now, hurts a little to a lot depending on the day, and have about 50% movement. If it gets jammed, a shooting pain will run up my arm. Learned to live with it.
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broke mine in 06, not horible but still bothers me some....depending in the activity.
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Sandberm 1/30/2015 5:39am
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Pfft...learn how to do your business with the other hand and move on.

Next topic, whats with the bald chick?
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My son is still in a brace from a break back in November. He was in a hard cast for two months, but the doc put him in a removable brace at our last visit. He gets a CT scan in a couple of weeks (exactly three months from the day of the injury) and I pray that bone is healed.
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Eddie_E 1/30/2015 8:16am
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I have been suffering from "skiers thumb" type injury that I got from going down on a sand track.

This thing is taking a long time to heal. It's been 4 months and I still don't have a strong grip from my thumb and it's painful when I grip hard. the big bone where my thumb meets my hand is 20% bigger now and I wonder if it's crushing the ulnar collateral ligament. Using a small rubber sand bag seems to be helping the strength and range or motion.
I guess it's good the tracks around me don't open until April.
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I broke mine after my rookie national season (1983). I tried to ride Saddleback in a cast the next season and then rode Hangtown and called it quits. I guess you could say it ended my "career".
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bd wrote:
Didn't that injury end RJ's career? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/08/16/29291/s1200_Ricky_Johnson_Gainesville_1989.jpg[/img]
Didn't that injury end RJ's career?

RJ came out to the olympic training center here in Colorado Springs to rehab that injury. He raced in a local supercross event I promoted to see how he was coming along. He won.

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hillbilly wrote:
I seem to have a memory of RV2 breaking his and fusing it,right one. And bagget maybe. I had injured myself in morning practice at gatorback...
I seem to have a memory of RV2 breaking his and fusing it,right one. And bagget maybe.

I had injured myself in morning practice at gatorback and was sitting on top of my bus filming with a new camcorder ,it was a big vhs thing,the battery was bigger than any camcorder today,but anyway,I was filming RJ at the very moment storbeck landed on him.

Continued filming as he walk3d to a ambulance near me and a huge crowd gathered. Could tell it was not good. Still have that tape somewhere.
Find that tape. I bet RJ hasn't seen the whole thing happen even though he probably doesn't want to.
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swedishfishmx wrote:
I broke mine pretty good a couple years ago. Bothers me everyday. Sometimes it's really bad and I can't pull in the clutch.
That was the main thing that made me stop racing in the early 80's. I had the big dream of going pro...but there was no technology available for surgery then, so it never healed right and I simply couldn't hold on to the bars more than a lap or so at most. It still bothers me from time to time, and I have issues with grip to this day in my left hand. I have had to resign myself to the thought that it was never meant to be...
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I've broken mine, kind of a pain in the ass. I was in a soft cast for a few months to see if it would heal on it's own and it didn't. Then they tried a hard cast to see if it would heal and it didn't. I ended up getting surgery and they took a bone graft from my hip and packed it in there along with a screw. A few months after that of taking it easy (in a soft cast) and monitoring it. I had this bone simulator thing that they had me put on my wrist every night that sent electronic pulses to it to promote blood flow and help healing. Eventaully it healed up (probably about a year later all said and done). It still bothers me from time to time, movements where I'm bending my wrist or applying pressure a certain way, but it's not that bad.
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Mine happened in a simple trip over the bars. It was diagnosed first as only a sprain by the ER, as it takes time for the break to appear on x-rays. I kept riding for 2-3 months, not knowing it was broken, and became very frustrated. I finally went to an Ortho, who saw the break. We debated surgery, but ended up going with a cast and bone stimulator. It healed, and the cast came off after 3-4 months. The recovery was slow, but it got to near 100% within a few months of having the cast off. I have no ill effects today, I perhaps lost 5% range of motion at the most.

Hearing others' stories, I now see I was very lucky.
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Eddie_E wrote:
I have been suffering from "skiers thumb" type injury that I got from going down on a sand track. This thing is taking a long time...
I have been suffering from "skiers thumb" type injury that I got from going down on a sand track.

This thing is taking a long time to heal. It's been 4 months and I still don't have a strong grip from my thumb and it's painful when I grip hard. the big bone where my thumb meets my hand is 20% bigger now and I wonder if it's crushing the ulnar collateral ligament. Using a small rubber sand bag seems to be helping the strength and range or motion.
I guess it's good the tracks around me don't open until April.
Skier thumb is a soft tissue injury. You have to give it time to heal properly. (mine is back to normal. But it did bother me for a while)
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Aceofspades wrote:
I remember back in the 80's that Hannah, ward, omara, and maybe others at one time or another had broken navicular bones in their wrists. Any...
I remember back in the 80's that Hannah, ward, omara, and maybe others at one time or another had broken navicular bones in their wrists. Any reason why we never hear of that particular injury? As I recall it was particularly nasty because there was very minimal blood flow around the area which made it take forever to heal.
I did mine 4 years ago. Thing still causes me problems some days. Push ups are a bitch bench press, swinging a bat
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FlickitFlat wrote:
Isn't that the wrist problems JS7 had a couple of years ago?
mark_swart wrote:
That's what I was thinking too... maybe his first year in the big class?
He did it in either 2010 or 2011... I think it was 2010.
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Sandberm wrote:
Pfft...learn how to do your business with the other hand and move on.

Next topic, whats with the bald chick?
What if you break both?
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Aceofspades wrote:
I remember back in the 80's that Hannah, ward, omara, and maybe others at one time or another had broken navicular bones in their wrists. Any...
I remember back in the 80's that Hannah, ward, omara, and maybe others at one time or another had broken navicular bones in their wrists. Any reason why we never hear of that particular injury? As I recall it was particularly nasty because there was very minimal blood flow around the area which made it take forever to heal.
Broke both of mine 13 years ago... Surgery has come a long way.. They don't fuse any longer, after putting a screw in you can be back riding in 3-4 months.
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Broke mine, right wrist, in 1978. Of all the broken bones and injuries I endured over the years, the Navicular is the only one that did not heal back to normal. Loss of movement, strength and random pain is the result of that injury.
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Been there done that

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