Alessi Shenanigans...

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lostboy819 10/27/2014 11:42am
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Jeff alessi wrote:
i learned what i did was wrong but what i learned more was how much the man was waiting for something to jump on, you got...
i learned what i did was wrong but what i learned more was how much the man was waiting for something to jump on, you got riders out there doing drugs tarnishing the name of the sport getting caught and even worse getting away with it and the only thing the man is worried about is penalizing an alessi over something i think we can all call a stupid mistake.. i did learn my lesson but i guarentee you had i ghost ridden my bike into another rider or got popped i would of been treated alot different then you see..
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You obviously did not "learn your lesson" because you say "the man is worried about is penalizing an alessi over something i think we can all...
You obviously did not "learn your lesson" because you say "the man is worried about is penalizing an alessi over something i think we can all call a stupid mistake." Nope, I certainly don't call it that. It was much more than that! A stupid mistake it much more innocent than that.

I just laugh that you say you were pointing the laser at the helmet! hahhaa! How many more lies do you expect us to believe? ooops, DC wrote his comment when I was writing mine........
I think he should have been taken out in handcuffs but it looks like DC is a decent guy for not having him arrested.
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35smom 10/27/2014 11:42am
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FGR01 wrote:
That's an AMA Pro rule. Don't have that rule in local yokel amateur series. I've never raced but this is what I've been told.
Overdrive wrote:
" I've never raced but this is what I've been told. "

Quote of the day.
davistld01 wrote:
More than a few folks ought to begin their every post here with that...
He's referring to not racing AMA Pro...not racing at all.
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motosmith 10/27/2014 11:43am
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I live for threads like this.

They only come around about once a year but it's well worth the wait.
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Matt Wozney 10/27/2014 11:46am
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I'll be posting videos of all the Pro motos plus some helmet cam video from Hog Heaven later today.
I didn't get any sight lap madness from that last 250 moto. I was walking to my spot for the start of the moto during that time and missed what had (or had not) happened.

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BobbyM 10/27/2014 11:50am
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Matt Wozney wrote:
I'll be posting videos of all the Pro motos plus some helmet cam video from Hog Heaven later today. I didn't get any sight lap madness...
I'll be posting videos of all the Pro motos plus some helmet cam video from Hog Heaven later today.
I didn't get any sight lap madness from that last 250 moto. I was walking to my spot for the start of the moto during that time and missed what had (or had not) happened.
Losing yer touch Matthew.... Smile
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JW381 10/27/2014 11:52am
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Matt Wozney wrote:
I'll be posting videos of all the Pro motos plus some helmet cam video from Hog Heaven later today. I didn't get any sight lap madness...
I'll be posting videos of all the Pro motos plus some helmet cam video from Hog Heaven later today.
I didn't get any sight lap madness from that last 250 moto. I was walking to my spot for the start of the moto during that time and missed what had (or had not) happened.
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Losing yer touch Matthew.... Smile
For real, you should know where the money is at by now! Haha
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CR250Rider wrote:

Lied about the fine.. 10k vs 25k
Cheating with the laser.. Washougal
Blaming The Man.
Adds up to someone that has no honor
2WheelsForTheMasses wrote:
Jeff was referring to total fine, not just by the sanctioning body, but out of pocket fines and his pay. It cost him $25000
So he was on Motoconcepts pay roll? Thought they were saying he had nothing to do with the team when this all went down??
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88YZ125 10/27/2014 11:58am
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Did anyone actually see Alessi doing what he's been accused of, or is it just speculation by a lot of people? Any videos or actual eyewitness accounts that corroborate each other?
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CR250Rider wrote:

Lied about the fine.. 10k vs 25k
Cheating with the laser.. Washougal
Blaming The Man.
Adds up to someone that has no honor
2WheelsForTheMasses wrote:
Jeff was referring to total fine, not just by the sanctioning body, but out of pocket fines and his pay. It cost him $25000
yak651 wrote:
So he was on Motoconcepts pay roll? Thought they were saying he had nothing to do with the team when this all went down??
Oh snap!

This thread is like an onion
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Camp332 wrote:
Bro, we shredded Chest, and Tri's today! Even threw in some calves. Don't make me do a doughnut on your jump faces bro's!
Bro you couldn't even lift your ballsack on a freezing cold day let alone a hot one. You don't even lift!
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slipdog 10/27/2014 12:29pm
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Camp332 wrote:
Bro, we shredded Chest, and Tri's today! Even threw in some calves. Don't make me do a doughnut on your jump faces bro's!
SquidBro wrote:
Bro you couldn't even lift your ballsack on a freezing cold day let alone a hot one. You don't even lift!
I don't know what all this "lift" bs is about, in my house we never lift!

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bobby397 10/27/2014 12:30pm
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88YZ125 wrote:
Did anyone actually see Alessi doing what he's been accused of, or is it just speculation by a lot of people? Any videos or actual eyewitness...
Did anyone actually see Alessi doing what he's been accused of, or is it just speculation by a lot of people? Any videos or actual eyewitness accounts that corroborate each other?
Do you read the post by others? Check my earlier post
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lostboy819 10/27/2014 12:36pm
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88YZ125 wrote:
Did anyone actually see Alessi doing what he's been accused of, or is it just speculation by a lot of people? Any videos or actual eyewitness...
Did anyone actually see Alessi doing what he's been accused of, or is it just speculation by a lot of people? Any videos or actual eyewitness accounts that corroborate each other?
bobby397 wrote:
Do you read the post by others? Check my earlier post
I think he just wants to post in a thread with "Shenanigans" in the title,I can now cross that off my bucket list.
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I don't know what all this "lift" bs is about, in my house we never lift!

Not everyone should be allowed to have kids...
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Gringoe 10/27/2014 12:45pm
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I respect mike for trying to gain every advantage possible at the hog heaven professional championship to beat a kid who's never had a factory ride besides a couple races of fill ins Silly you've come a long long way mike since podiuming your second national in the 450 class! Mostly down but hey it's entertaining
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bobby397 10/27/2014 12:50pm
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88YZ125 wrote:
Did anyone actually see Alessi doing what he's been accused of, or is it just speculation by a lot of people? Any videos or actual eyewitness...
Did anyone actually see Alessi doing what he's been accused of, or is it just speculation by a lot of people? Any videos or actual eyewitness accounts that corroborate each other?
bobby397 wrote:
Do you read the post by others? Check my earlier post
lostboy819 wrote:
I think he just wants to post in a thread with "Shenanigans" in the title,I can now cross that off my bucket list.
Haha, Jeffs post pretty much confirmed my story. Why else would he ride to that spot of the track and straight back to the gate. It was the only place jimmy would gap him the first 250 moto. That said, alessi did look damn fast on the 250 not to ride it much. Also Alex frye looked really fast hanging with those guys in one of his first pro races
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shuggs 10/27/2014 12:52pm
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davistld01 wrote:
That's probably the biggest whiney-baby load of crap I've ever heard in my life. Because of your juvenile behavior, you could have at the very least...
That's probably the biggest whiney-baby load of crap I've ever heard in my life. Because of your juvenile behavior, you could have at the very least gotten somebody hurt, and effected a championship battle that you weren't a part of and neither was your brother, really...but you still think you were treated unjustly? Bullcrap. You were penalized to the max because of what you did...because you straight up lied about it...you put your family (mostly Mike) in a compromising position...and you deserved it. I mean, did YOU pay the $25K? Don't be such a cry baby. Jeez!

I didn't call you out, just stating facts as I see them...just like everybody else does here. We post opinions. And I'm not trying to re-crucify you, bro...but just be real about stuff, don't cry about it.

Sorry but you can do anything to me but just DONT EVER LIE as once you do that were finished. There is a lot of things that get me about Team Alessi and this has been building for a long time, to name a few:
1. MA standing on Ivans bike (was it), loved it when Carpenter turned back to help a team mate deal with a fuckhead.
2. TA, come on now there is tough love and there is going too far.
3. MA tearful at winning a heat race - really?? Christ son it dont really matter save it for the main.
4. JA lasergate, again man up boy and just say 'I was a dick' we have all done something like this and got on with life afterwards.
5. TA at lasergate, why the meltdown and drug ring crap, speak to your kid get the truth (I know when my kids aint telling the whole story and it soon comes out) then go see 'THE MAN' and tell him how your going to deal with it.
6. MA on Tickle, ffs if you meant to take him out fine just say so (and if it was more a hit than you expected say so) - this is the big boys and rubbing is racing (IMO sadly missing since 4t took over).

These are just what I can think of right now and to me MA (and to some extent JA) have wasted their time, remember boys you only get 1 shot at living and no point in 5 - 10 years saying if only...

Feel free to add any points I have missed tho (as expect it to be a big list llf llf llf)
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88YZ125 wrote:
Did anyone actually see Alessi doing what he's been accused of, or is it just speculation by a lot of people? Any videos or actual eyewitness...
Did anyone actually see Alessi doing what he's been accused of, or is it just speculation by a lot of people? Any videos or actual eyewitness accounts that corroborate each other?
bobby397 wrote:
Do you read the post by others? Check my earlier post
lostboy819 wrote:
I think he just wants to post in a thread with "Shenanigans" in the title,I can now cross that off my bucket list.
https://youtu.be/MFZG8KQJni8

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Roostermx58 10/27/2014 1:01pm
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TDeath21 wrote:
When you have built a bad reputation, you'll get shit on for things that might not be true, no matter how big or small they are...
When you have built a bad reputation, you'll get shit on for things that might not be true, no matter how big or small they are. Fact of life.
the most TRUE statement of these posts.
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lostboy819 10/27/2014 1:04pm
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shuggs wrote:
Sorry but you can do anything to me but just [b][i]DONT EVER LIE[/i][/b] as once you do that were finished. There is a lot of things...
Sorry but you can do anything to me but just DONT EVER LIE as once you do that were finished. There is a lot of things that get me about Team Alessi and this has been building for a long time, to name a few:
1. MA standing on Ivans bike (was it), loved it when Carpenter turned back to help a team mate deal with a fuckhead.
2. TA, come on now there is tough love and there is going too far.
3. MA tearful at winning a heat race - really?? Christ son it dont really matter save it for the main.
4. JA lasergate, again man up boy and just say 'I was a dick' we have all done something like this and got on with life afterwards.
5. TA at lasergate, why the meltdown and drug ring crap, speak to your kid get the truth (I know when my kids aint telling the whole story and it soon comes out) then go see 'THE MAN' and tell him how your going to deal with it.
6. MA on Tickle, ffs if you meant to take him out fine just say so (and if it was more a hit than you expected say so) - this is the big boys and rubbing is racing (IMO sadly missing since 4t took over).

These are just what I can think of right now and to me MA (and to some extent JA) have wasted their time, remember boys you only get 1 shot at living and no point in 5 - 10 years saying if only...

Feel free to add any points I have missed tho (as expect it to be a big list llf llf llf)
Pretty accurate except it was Walker who went back to help Ivan but overall a very good post .
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C.Worthy 10/27/2014 1:05pm
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shuggs wrote:
Sorry but you can do anything to me but just [b][i]DONT EVER LIE[/i][/b] as once you do that were finished. There is a lot of things...
Sorry but you can do anything to me but just DONT EVER LIE as once you do that were finished. There is a lot of things that get me about Team Alessi and this has been building for a long time, to name a few:
1. MA standing on Ivans bike (was it), loved it when Carpenter turned back to help a team mate deal with a fuckhead.
2. TA, come on now there is tough love and there is going too far.
3. MA tearful at winning a heat race - really?? Christ son it dont really matter save it for the main.
4. JA lasergate, again man up boy and just say 'I was a dick' we have all done something like this and got on with life afterwards.
5. TA at lasergate, why the meltdown and drug ring crap, speak to your kid get the truth (I know when my kids aint telling the whole story and it soon comes out) then go see 'THE MAN' and tell him how your going to deal with it.
6. MA on Tickle, ffs if you meant to take him out fine just say so (and if it was more a hit than you expected say so) - this is the big boys and rubbing is racing (IMO sadly missing since 4t took over).

These are just what I can think of right now and to me MA (and to some extent JA) have wasted their time, remember boys you only get 1 shot at living and no point in 5 - 10 years saying if only...

Feel free to add any points I have missed tho (as expect it to be a big list llf llf llf)
It was Matt Walker who turned around to help Ivan not Carpenter. If I remember correctly he ended up being DQ'd from that moto for going the wrong way on the track. But kudos to him for helping out his teammate
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Camp332 10/27/2014 1:11pm
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Camp332 wrote:
Bro, we shredded Chest, and Tri's today! Even threw in some calves. Don't make me do a doughnut on your jump faces bro's!
SquidBro wrote:
Bro you couldn't even lift your ballsack on a freezing cold day let alone a hot one. You don't even lift!
Why you gotta bring my ballsack into this Bro!? You got me feelin some type of way, and I'm not sure what way that is Bruh!
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brocster 10/27/2014 1:32pm
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Gringoe wrote:
I respect mike for trying to gain every advantage possible at the hog heaven professional championship to beat a kid who's never had a factory ride...
I respect mike for trying to gain every advantage possible at the hog heaven professional championship to beat a kid who's never had a factory ride besides a couple races of fill ins Silly you've come a long long way mike since podiuming your second national in the 450 class! Mostly down but hey it's entertaining
^^^^^this

wish ole whipmeister would spill the beans on what happened at SWAN...

this attempt by the alessi's to go other places to race to build back mikes confidence and get some wins under his belt has been some cake in the face if that's what they set out to do....

again, mike is/was the epitome of professional motocross and should carry himself and his crew in such a way as to lead people to no questions of his finish but somehow he keeps falling into or setting that boobie trap...

if you want to question the parade (viewing) lap and what's above board or what's not. if it's all fair game sign me up for being the last back to the gate!

yes he can ride the wheels off of a mx bike but the other bullshit that surrounds him is just pathetic
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Camp332 wrote:
Bro, we shredded Chest, and Tri's today! Even threw in some calves. Don't make me do a doughnut on your jump faces bro's!
SquidBro wrote:
Bro you couldn't even lift your ballsack on a freezing cold day let alone a hot one. You don't even lift!
Camp332 wrote:
Why you gotta bring my ballsack into this Bro!? You got me feelin some type of way, and I'm not sure what way that is Bruh!
SquidBro wrote: Wanted, new spotter. Old one can't handle my load anymore. Racking the 6 plates easy and then some on the chest boys, this ain't no child's game. Maybe legs in the noon



not into ballsacks or big loads, bro. but i'm good for leg day
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Jeff alessi wrote:
i learned what i did was wrong but what i learned more was how much the man was waiting for something to jump on, you got...
i learned what i did was wrong but what i learned more was how much the man was waiting for something to jump on, you got riders out there doing drugs tarnishing the name of the sport getting caught and even worse getting away with it and the only thing the man is worried about is penalizing an alessi over something i think we can all call a stupid mistake.. i did learn my lesson but i guarentee you had i ghost ridden my bike into another rider or got popped i would of been treated alot different then you see..
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JS taking adderall for a disorder is tarnishing the sport? Get real no one outside the sport gives two shits who is prescribed a legal "drug."...
JS taking adderall for a disorder is tarnishing the sport? Get real no one outside the sport gives two shits who is prescribed a legal "drug."

What's tarnishing the sport is your lack of grammar skills. Now people are going to think all motocross racers are uneducated idiots that can't even write at an 8th grade level. I'm not sure what's worse, the mispeling of wurds or the complete misuse of words.
I figured kids getting kill over huge jumps and it played on the news was tarnishing the sport, now spelling,fuck,i need a drink.
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Camp332 10/27/2014 1:45pm
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SquidBro wrote:
Bro you couldn't even lift your ballsack on a freezing cold day let alone a hot one. You don't even lift!
Camp332 wrote:
Why you gotta bring my ballsack into this Bro!? You got me feelin some type of way, and I'm not sure what way that is Bruh!
peelout wrote:
[quote][b]SquidBro[/b] wrote: Wanted, new spotter. Old one can't handle my load anymore. Racking the 6 plates easy and then some on the chest boys, this ain't...
SquidBro wrote: Wanted, new spotter. Old one can't handle my load anymore. Racking the 6 plates easy and then some on the chest boys, this ain't no child's game. Maybe legs in the noon



not into ballsacks or big loads, bro. but i'm good for leg day
I can stand behind this statement Bro...


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C.Worthy 10/27/2014 1:51pm
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hillbilly wrote:
I figured kids getting kill over huge jumps and it played on the news was tarnishing the sport, now spelling,fuck,i need a drink.
hahaha I was being sarcastic to make a point hillbilly. You're alright in my book Grinning
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Overdrive 10/27/2014 1:57pm
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So what if Mike rode over in front of Jimmy's gate and proceeded to sabotage his line while he was on his parade lap?

Only difference is Jimmy isn't going to crash on the start like he would over the triple face that Mike sabotaged.

Jimmy would just get a bad start, just like the bad start you would get if someone were to point a laser in your eyes before starting.

What kind of idiot do you have to be to think of this kind of stuff, race straight up or go home.
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MJC 10/27/2014 2:42pm
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I figured when I opened vital this morning and saw this thread at 10 pages that Jeff had joined in..... and I was richly rewarded.

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