Alessi gets 'Alessied' by Wilson - Unseen Video

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Mxdnusa 3/16/2014 4:27pm
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mxgreg85 wrote:
Dean tries to go inside a little hot, Mike already outside sees it at the last minute, tries to turn inside to take the line away...
Dean tries to go inside a little hot, Mike already outside sees it at the last minute, tries to turn inside to take the line away. The attempt to compare that to Mike aiming and popping clutch at Tickle solidifies my opinion of this family in racing. Believe the hype..
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I saw the same thing but I must admit, I wonder if in "real time" it looks different. But comparing that to the MA/BT move... only...
I saw the same thing but I must admit, I wonder if in "real time" it looks different. But comparing that to the MA/BT move... only a nut job would go there.
I thought same thing. Looks like mike alessid' deano,but his timing was off!
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Sandberm 3/16/2014 4:29pm
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I guess I can see mcr's point. It looked a little brutal. The difference is, Tickle was all the way to the outside of the turn and basically Mike pinned him against the fence. In this instance Wilson and Alessi were right out in the middle of the pasture. One can see that maybe Dean thought Mike was going to go more outside rather then cut down so hard pinching him off.

Depends where the racing line was too to anticipate Mikes move.

But,...Dean probably should have waited to make that move the next lap if he was closer behind Mike in the previous straight. It would have been more obvious to Mike he was being challenged/passed and he could have reacted differently.
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Iwannaride 3/16/2014 4:31pm
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MCRacing wrote:
Some insight into what happens on the track and off the track at the races that people aren't aware of. This is a video of Dean...
Some insight into what happens on the track and off the track at the races that people aren't aware of. This is a video of Dean Wilson and Mike Alessi that was taken during the end of last night's main event that didn't get televised. It's a very similar intentional/unintentional t-bone of those we've seen lately.

The video and complaint were presented to AMA immediately following the race and the powers that be at AMA refused to give consideration to the incident in terms of negligence. Is it right for such similar situations that have recently occurred (Alessi/Tickle, Stewart/Barcia) and many more in the past, be handled so differently? It is our belief a fair and objective perspective from fans, teams and AMA is critical to the growth if this sport.

Has anyone posted the clip when Alessi stands one RV2's front wheel? Problem is Alessi/Alessi's have a history of being at the center of the problems and how many breaks will one family get? Wilson looks like an aggressive racing incident vs Mike's take out move on Tickle.Aggressive is OK, takeout is NOT!! The best thing you could do is accept the punishment and let Mike's recent racing do the talking, but you look for any excuse to cry foul which will only work against Mike's approval ratings. Just let it go and get to racing!!
overthebars39 3/16/2014 4:34pm
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Look where Deano's wheel is pointing to, then Alessi gasses it and he ends up getting T-Boned.
Mike tried to prevented Wilson from cutting in and found himself on the ground.

I agree with the rest here saying the MCR PR is terrible and causes more harm then good this way. You are seriously putting yourself and the whole team off as amateurs.

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PJ205 3/16/2014 4:42pm
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This is one of the most childish posts that I have ever seen. Reminds me of something an elementary school student would do.
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Cashmore 3/16/2014 4:44pm
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I can't believe you would come in here with this kind of crap... deano was trying to shut his line down and pass him and mike nailed the throttle taking himself down. I like mike and wish him the best, but this can't even be compared to mike purposely ramming his bike into tickle.
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Xeno 3/16/2014 4:44pm
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Will anybody sympathize with the OP? Jeff? Motodude? Bueller?
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downard254 3/16/2014 4:59pm
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davistld01 wrote:
My question is the same as Jeff's. What happened two turns before this one? Looks like a racing incident to me...unless it was a payback from...
My question is the same as Jeff's. What happened two turns before this one? Looks like a racing incident to me...unless it was a payback from something that happened prior.

Not standing up for the AMA or Wilson...but Wilson doesn't really have a history of torpedoing other riders.
Wilson does have a history of running it in hard on guys. The last time I remember seeing much of it, he pushed Tomac around a few times before it came back and bit him in the ass. His halo doesn't rest perfectly square upon his head either.
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Ramrod 3/16/2014 5:03pm
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I'm sure Wilson didn't intend for that to happen.

Also, that incident is totally different than with Tickle. The glasses Alessi's wear are special.
scott_nz 3/16/2014 5:15pm
3/16/2014 5:15pm
Wilson did not "Alessi" Alessi,

mike turned down early, Dean tried to stop and turn as best he could, (he did fall over doing so), Dean did not gun it and release the clutch Like Mike did to Broc,

nice try, but that was racing,
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dkg 3/16/2014 5:17pm
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MCRacing. In looking at the videos, my objective opinion is that the AMA got this one right. Frankly, in the video you show, both riders are in the process of turning and had contact not taken place, both riders would have successfully negotiated the turn. In the Tickle incident, had contact not been made, the probabilities are that Mike with the orientation of the bike and acceleration most likely would have left the track. In the Alessi/Wilson incident, it seems it was just a turn where the riders got together and both were attempting to negotiate the race track. In the Alessi/Tickle incident, the bikes orientation at time of impact raises the question of what turning maneuver Mike was engaged in when the incident took place. Just my two cents worth, I could be wrong, and just so we are clear, I don't believe that Mike had a premeditated intent to T-Bone Tickle, I am assuming you are looking for objective opinions on why the difference.
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Socket946 3/16/2014 5:19pm
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This is fucking epic.

This will be brown holed, and covered up by guyb here in minutes.

Just like any epic Alessi melt down on here...or any industry melt down for that matter.
woodsryder 3/16/2014 6:02pm
3/16/2014 6:02pm
Obviously the Alessi's have turned everyone at MotoConcepts into a bunch of dumb asses like themselves.
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hartebreak 3/16/2014 6:04pm
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With all these Alessi threads, I think the admin should create a whole section for the threads. We can have 'Moto Related", then "Race Shop" and then insert an Alessi section just in front of "New rider questions".
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Spartacus 3/16/2014 6:08pm
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Marketing director.

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IWreckALot 3/16/2014 6:11pm
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Crush wrote:
I will say it looks like Deano is landing from a pretty hard jump on the inside on a slick surface so it might have been...
I will say it looks like Deano is landing from a pretty hard jump on the inside on a slick surface so it might have been harder to bind up, Mike was already cutting down. Frame by frame it's hard to really tell, especially with no reference as to the section before.

Regardless, if I was running your ship, i'd be keeping quiet and letting the results do the talking. Any drama from any angle at this point ISN'T a good thing. Just keep quiet, keep improving and keep the incidents away–That includes posting shit like this.

Just don't. You're not gonna make fans here.
Yeah the :16 clip didn't really give enough perspective to say one way or the other. It looked like Alessi could have conceded if he wanted to avoid the incident but he dumped the clutch again and Wilson couldn't get on the binders enough. Plus, as best as I can tell, Wilson's rear brake was locked the whole time and he didn't dump the clutch and twist the throttle like an inexperienced foosball player.

And I further agree that you don't really see any other teams getting out there trying to defend their rider's move. They accept that people are going to think what they want and the AMA is going to do what the AMA feels is best for their business and they know if they don't like it, they can find somewhere else to race. By providing the Alessi's a home, you've put the team on a very short leash. It is what it is and isn't going to change.
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IWreckALot 3/16/2014 6:12pm
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hartebreak wrote:
With all these Alessi threads, I think the admin should create a whole section for the threads. We can have 'Moto Related", then "Race Shop" and...
With all these Alessi threads, I think the admin should create a whole section for the threads. We can have 'Moto Related", then "Race Shop" and then insert an Alessi section just in front of "New rider questions".
They already have that. It's called Brotocross.
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S.Loyer 3/16/2014 6:16pm
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Amazing PR work MCR.
Solidifying that you are the biggest joke for a professional team.

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erikcrvjl 3/16/2014 6:26pm
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There's a difference, Alessi was on the fucking ground before the turn. Brakes work a lot better when you're not in the air.

It's crazy to think that the guys over at MCR still wonder why they are the laughing stock of professional MX teams.
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Grizz 3/16/2014 6:31pm
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Alessi is looking right at Wilson and did nothing about it Blink
Hit me, bitch!

Just kidding, but don't forget that was in slow mo.
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CR250Rider 3/16/2014 6:31pm
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As Emig and KW would say, "The pass has been made, he needed to concede the position" alessi didn't and they both went down, exactly as described.

apples to oranges
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oshow 3/16/2014 6:32pm
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Racing incident. Nothing more.
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Paul333 3/16/2014 6:34pm
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CR250Rider wrote:
As Emig and KW would say, "The pass has been made, he needed to concede the position" alessi didn't and they both went down, exactly as...
As Emig and KW would say, "The pass has been made, he needed to concede the position" alessi didn't and they both went down, exactly as described.

apples to oranges
I agree completely.
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7 pages minimum. The haters will come out in droves blaming Alessi for everything from the ozone layer to the drug trade. MC Racing, you could cure cancer and the haters will still hate. I highly recommend not comparing and not living in the past. Its done, Alessi apologized to Tickle. Done deal.
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davistld01 3/16/2014 6:52pm
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Back in the day, this thread...especially the initial post would have been called a "waste of bandwidth".

MCRacing...I'm afraid that what you hoped would've resulted in a huge wave of support for Mike, and would have had everyone crying about how poorly MCR has been treated...has become a complete failure. This has done nothing more than solidify the idea in many a mind that Mike Alessi is the only good thing about an immature, whiney-baby organization. Sad, really.
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mx_563 3/16/2014 7:06pm
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Is Wilson's foot on the brake?
Does Wilson twist the throttle immediately prior to impact?
If Alessi wasn't there, would Wilson have made the turn?

When Alessi hit Tickle his foot was NOT on the brake, he DID accelerate into Tickle, and no, he never would have made that run regardless if Tickle was there or not.

I love that MCR just keeps on making things worse for themselves. It's so entertaining.
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Tumblin 3/16/2014 7:09pm
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hvaughn88 wrote:
Not to bag on y'all too much, but posting this kind of shit is so much of the reason people get so pissed off at y'all...
Not to bag on y'all too much, but posting this kind of shit is so much of the reason people get so pissed off at y'all and don't want to have your backs. Lets be real here, mike/tony/Jeff have all done some pretty dumb shit in the past. I'm not gonna cast stones because we all have done dumb shit...we're human, it happens. But the difference is, instead of taking your lumps and owning up to it, y'all deny deny deny, point fingers, place blame else where And post up videos of another rider running it in on mike. I mean what are you trying to accomplish here? Showing a video of mike getting hit doesn't change what he did to tickle. A word of advice, people would have a lot more respect for y'all and probably cut you some slack if you would just own your mistakes and move on.
Yep
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Aaron_Hart 3/16/2014 7:11pm
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he barely catches him haha when alessi did it he full blow put his handlebar through tickle
Whoops_Blitzer 3/16/2014 7:31pm
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I'd like to see it at normal speed, Zapruder Racing.

I sped it up to 3x and it was still at about half speed. At that speed though it definitely looks like Alessi called his bluff (see his front wheel actually leaving the ground as he gets on the throttle) and wound up on the ground for his troubles. Maybe it looks different at 1x.
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Sandberm 3/16/2014 7:41pm
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CR250Rider wrote:
As Emig and KW would say, "The pass has been made, he needed to concede the position" alessi didn't and they both went down, exactly as...
As Emig and KW would say, "The pass has been made, he needed to concede the position" alessi didn't and they both went down, exactly as described.

apples to oranges
Paul333 wrote:
I agree completely.
I completely dissagree.

Dean was too far behind Mike in the straight leading up to the corner for it to be obvious to Mike that there was a pass attempt hapening. I think Dean should have set that pass up one lap latter when he would be closer to MIke.

That being said, I still judge this a racing incident.

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