Southwick announces end of operation

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Edited Date/Time 1/10/2014 9:57am
Web page at www.motocross338.org announces no more local racing, the end.
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1/9/2014 4:36pm
Well that blows
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1/9/2014 4:36pm
My favorite place on earth. Grew up on that track.. Devistating.
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1/9/2014 4:37pm
That really sucks
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1/9/2014 4:46pm
God damn it.....that is sad news! Was really hoping to see that track back on the national schedule again. At least we got Glen Helen back....but losing southwick is still a big dent I think. Always one of my favorite tracks to watch.

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1/9/2014 4:50pm
Sign of the times. Can't blame them when most of the customer base are bitches like the guy who started the robbed thread.
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1/9/2014 4:58pm
It looks like thats dianes farewell letter. I dont think it has anything to do with the new lease.
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1/9/2014 5:01pm
I see what your saying.
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1/9/2014 5:04pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2014 5:08pm
Cygnus wrote:
Sign of the times. Can't blame them when most of the customer base are bitches like the guy who started the robbed thread.
I imagine there's plenty of people in Mass right now who would gladly trade being ripped off $30 for the chance to keep their favorite track.

You get what you give.
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1/9/2014 5:08pm
No tracks to ride at = reduced industry (Bike sales, parts/accessories) = other sports thrive, MX dwindles.
Too bad the industry giants don't
open and manage tracks in the interest of increasing and sustaining riders. Or maybe outside companies like all the ones sponsoring the college football bowls could be sold on the concept. Or open a casino with a track next to it. I dunno ....
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1/9/2014 5:13pm
dedi684 wrote:
It looks like thats dianes farewell letter. I dont think it has anything to do with the new lease.
If there is a new lease, the new owners should put out the word instead of letting everyone thinking the worse.
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1/9/2014 5:15pm
Joko wrote:
No tracks to ride at = reduced industry (Bike sales, parts/accessories) = other sports thrive, MX dwindles. Too bad the industry giants don't open and manage...
No tracks to ride at = reduced industry (Bike sales, parts/accessories) = other sports thrive, MX dwindles.
Too bad the industry giants don't
open and manage tracks in the interest of increasing and sustaining riders. Or maybe outside companies like all the ones sponsoring the college football bowls could be sold on the concept. Or open a casino with a track next to it. I dunno ....
Damn those are honestly great ideas, I never really thought of it.

very very sad to see this place go.

How badass would it be, to see manufacturer owned tracks all throughout the U.S.
man a guy can dream.

-Get like a 10$ discount for riding at your brands track etc. Damn if i was a Ceo of one of the corporations, id completely do that in a heartbeat.
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1/9/2014 5:19pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2014 5:21pm
dedi684 wrote:
It looks like thats dianes farewell letter. I dont think it has anything to do with the new lease.
Joko wrote:
If there is a new lease, the new owners should put out the word instead of letting everyone thinking the worse.
Who knows its not on the nesc schedule but I hear it will be open. Track was in the worst condition I have ever seen it and it seems like most riders hated it. Hate to lose it but the place needs major work imho.
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1/9/2014 5:22pm
Heartbreaking.

The first race I ever watched was at Southwick, an NESC event in 1995. I was hooked. It was the first National I went to, and my first ever NESC race. Lots of great memories in that sand.
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does anyone know what they are doing with the property? is it for sale
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1/9/2014 5:28pm
Maybe KTM has the forward thinking
to try it, they seem more progressive than others. Imagine having that year's model line up (125/150/250sx, 250/450 sxf) available at their track all year round for riders and new potential riders to the sport having the ability to try out the bikes and or sport. Or if FOX had gear rentals available as well to go along with the bike tryouts. Heck, a person can go to a ski lodge, rent
everything and get their feet we .... MX should follow the plan?
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Cygnus wrote:
Sign of the times. Can't blame them when most of the customer base are bitches like the guy who started the robbed thread.
I think you're a bit off base with that one......
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1/9/2014 7:14pm
I really hope they (DC)
Find another sand Track in the near future!
im all for variety
but I love sand tracks
. Both watching and riding.
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1/9/2014 7:17pm
i raced the last moto ever at the wick, Steve Burdette won it
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1/9/2014 7:43pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2014 7:43pm
So sad! I grew up racing there, lots of memories.
Moto338 will be missed.

R.I.P Moto338
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1/9/2014 7:54pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2014 7:58pm
pete24 wrote:
i raced the last moto ever at the wick, Steve Burdette won it
What class did Steve win? He is quite the character and its very impressive that he held a 2 digit national number for something like a decade, with his lowest number being #32!

I hate to say it but Southwick was no where near what it used to be these last couple years (track wise). Go on youtube and watch any race in the mid 90s like 1996 and it was wayyyyyyyyy rougher. Seems like since 2007 when they dozed the track after the motos, it was never the same. Southwick was known for being rough and sandy but turned into, kind of sandy / hard base with somewhat rough at the national. The locals no longer had that big advantage and the second moto lap times weren't far off from the first moto. I also think the direction of the track and removal of the woods section including the frog pond, really made a big impact in the decline of Southwick.

The sand was literally removed from the bikes after 4+ decades of racing. If you think about it, every bike that left the track was covered in sand, now times that by say 400+ riders, times 2 motos each a weekend for 30+ weekends a year and that's a lot of dirt and that's a low average!

I don't think this will be the end of it, just waiting for new promoters to take over.
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1/9/2014 7:57pm
Joko wrote:
Web page at www.motocross338.org announces no more local racing, the end.
The wording Diane used implies the track will be closed forever. That is not the case. She is no longer the lease holder and the wording she uses on the website is... unfortunate. Unless Diane knows something the American Legion Post 338 and the new lease holder don't know, Southwick will be back.

There is, however, a pre-existing land issue that the new lease holder was not made aware of until very recently and he is actively addressing the issue.

He has already purchased several pieces of equipment and expected to start reconfiguring and updating the track and facilities but this issue is delaying the start of any work. He is very passionate about bringing the 'Wick back and will do everything he can to make it happen. Stay tuned...
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1/9/2014 8:23pm
I really hope it is not true.

But that website is Diane's, and we all know that she and Ralph have retired. But the wording is odd, and does make it sound like things have really come to an end for the facility. But with the release of the 2014 NESC schedule, and various other New England racing schedules, none of which have any mention of Southwick, I suppose it does not look good.

NESC racing without Southwick is like eating a peanut butter and Jelly sandwich, but without the peanut butter!

Without scheduled racing at the facility for 2014, I find it hard to believe that the track can continue to exist - that is unless the new owners are taking a bridge year or something, and have the funds to carry it in the red for a year or so.

Can anyone confirmed that Mike Grundhal (or however you spell his name) is confirmed to be taking it over? I know he was talking about it and even put out a oddly worded press release back in August, but I also know that his deal was not signed at that point in time, and have heard several issues have popped up.

Does anyone know any specifics?
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1/9/2014 8:46pm
I agree with you Nick about how strange it is to see the NESC schedule without Southwick on it. I hope the track is not doomed but that is definitely a bad sign.

Hopefully some more information comes out about this.
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mxnick wrote:
I really hope it is not true. But that website is Diane's, and we all know that she and Ralph have retired. But the wording is...
I really hope it is not true.

But that website is Diane's, and we all know that she and Ralph have retired. But the wording is odd, and does make it sound like things have really come to an end for the facility. But with the release of the 2014 NESC schedule, and various other New England racing schedules, none of which have any mention of Southwick, I suppose it does not look good.

NESC racing without Southwick is like eating a peanut butter and Jelly sandwich, but without the peanut butter!

Without scheduled racing at the facility for 2014, I find it hard to believe that the track can continue to exist - that is unless the new owners are taking a bridge year or something, and have the funds to carry it in the red for a year or so.

Can anyone confirmed that Mike Grundhal (or however you spell his name) is confirmed to be taking it over? I know he was talking about it and even put out a oddly worded press release back in August, but I also know that his deal was not signed at that point in time, and have heard several issues have popped up.

Does anyone know any specifics?
Yes, Mike Grondahl is the new lease holder. Yes, there are issues however they are to be expected considering the situation... except for the land issue... that was very unexpected.
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Travis707 wrote:
Yes, Mike Grondahl is the new lease holder. Yes, there are issues however they are to be expected considering the situation... except for the land issue...
Yes, Mike Grondahl is the new lease holder. Yes, there are issues however they are to be expected considering the situation... except for the land issue... that was very unexpected.
What do you mean by land issue?
1/9/2014 9:06pm
You're never too big to fail......that sucks.
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BAMX wrote:
What do you mean by land issue?
Part of the new pit area was build on property that belongs to the school next door.
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mxnick wrote:
I really hope it is not true. But that website is Diane's, and we all know that she and Ralph have retired. But the wording is...
I really hope it is not true.

But that website is Diane's, and we all know that she and Ralph have retired. But the wording is odd, and does make it sound like things have really come to an end for the facility. But with the release of the 2014 NESC schedule, and various other New England racing schedules, none of which have any mention of Southwick, I suppose it does not look good.

NESC racing without Southwick is like eating a peanut butter and Jelly sandwich, but without the peanut butter!

Without scheduled racing at the facility for 2014, I find it hard to believe that the track can continue to exist - that is unless the new owners are taking a bridge year or something, and have the funds to carry it in the red for a year or so.

Can anyone confirmed that Mike Grundhal (or however you spell his name) is confirmed to be taking it over? I know he was talking about it and even put out a oddly worded press release back in August, but I also know that his deal was not signed at that point in time, and have heard several issues have popped up.

Does anyone know any specifics?
Travis707 wrote:
Yes, Mike Grondahl is the new lease holder. Yes, there are issues however they are to be expected considering the situation... except for the land issue...
Yes, Mike Grondahl is the new lease holder. Yes, there are issues however they are to be expected considering the situation... except for the land issue... that was very unexpected.
Well, that is awesome news, if it is in fact true.

Mike is the one guy who has the passion and funds to carry the thing while he gets it sorted out.

I hope that Southwick will come out swinging in 2015 and will host plenty of NESC, NEMA, NEMX and whatever other odd ball events they host, like the Jeep racing and the quad stuff.

What exactly are the issues that he is facing?

I could assume it is stuff with the town, and conditional use permit stuff? Hopefully it nothing that a few town meetings wont clear up...and that Southwick will continue.
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1/9/2014 9:33pm
mxnick wrote:
Well, that is awesome news, if it is in fact true. Mike is the one guy who has the passion and funds to carry the thing...
Well, that is awesome news, if it is in fact true.

Mike is the one guy who has the passion and funds to carry the thing while he gets it sorted out.

I hope that Southwick will come out swinging in 2015 and will host plenty of NESC, NEMA, NEMX and whatever other odd ball events they host, like the Jeep racing and the quad stuff.

What exactly are the issues that he is facing?

I could assume it is stuff with the town, and conditional use permit stuff? Hopefully it nothing that a few town meetings wont clear up...and that Southwick will continue.
See post above.

Mike met with town officials yesterday and will do everything he can to resolve it to everyones satisfaction as soon as possible.

Obviously this throws a monkey wrench into the works and will cause a delay but at this point the goal is to be operational this year. That being said, the solution to the land issue may require renovations to the pit area or possibly relocating the pits elsewhere on the property but that is speculation at this point. Right now it's a matter of going through the process and seeing where it goes.

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