Too old to moto? Anyone dual sporting?

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I may get thrashed for not talking moto here but I was just curious if any other lifelong moto guys are doing this. Any of you old guys that have bodies wearing out from years of motoing try dual sporting? I tell you I am loving it. Bought a Yamaha WR250R recently. So nice to be able to walk out the door whenever the mood strikes and take off and ride through the hills around San Diego. Dealing with cars is very similar to heading into the first turn with 30 125 beginners! Then when you see anything that resembles dirt you take off road. Best thing of all is my body does not get wrecked after a day on the MX track


And sorry for the title....we should never be too old to moto. Lets just say my knees are too worn out to moto..
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Yup, had the pleasure of doing some terrific rides with good people (one or two reports in the Hall of Fame). It's a great way to stay on a bike, and California especially has some terrific opportunities for organized and self run rides (the Sheetiron in Nor Cal is pretty cool).

GMan does a fair bit, too, I think.

There's no bad time on a bike, and it's a great way to stay on focused on what you can do rather than what days are past.
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It's still 2 wheels. I just prefer to stay off the pavement to avoid an accident with a car or something worse. But still riding trails and just slowing down to enjoy the scenery.
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KennyT wrote:
I may get thrashed for not talking moto here but I was just curious if any other lifelong moto guys are doing this. Any of you...
I may get thrashed for not talking moto here but I was just curious if any other lifelong moto guys are doing this. Any of you old guys that have bodies wearing out from years of motoing try dual sporting? I tell you I am loving it. Bought a Yamaha WR250R recently. So nice to be able to walk out the door whenever the mood strikes and take off and ride through the hills around San Diego. Dealing with cars is very similar to heading into the first turn with 30 125 beginners! Then when you see anything that resembles dirt you take off road. Best thing of all is my body does not get wrecked after a day on the MX track


And sorry for the title....we should never be too old to moto. Lets just say my knees are too worn out to moto..
I've been thinking about getting a dual sport. I know a group of guys that are into it. They go for miles and miles on nothing but logging roads. I guess some of the scenery is amazing.

Whats the top speed on your WR? Can you maintain freeway speed?
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KennyT wrote:
I may get thrashed for not talking moto here but I was just curious if any other lifelong moto guys are doing this. Any of you...
I may get thrashed for not talking moto here but I was just curious if any other lifelong moto guys are doing this. Any of you old guys that have bodies wearing out from years of motoing try dual sporting? I tell you I am loving it. Bought a Yamaha WR250R recently. So nice to be able to walk out the door whenever the mood strikes and take off and ride through the hills around San Diego. Dealing with cars is very similar to heading into the first turn with 30 125 beginners! Then when you see anything that resembles dirt you take off road. Best thing of all is my body does not get wrecked after a day on the MX track


And sorry for the title....we should never be too old to moto. Lets just say my knees are too worn out to moto..
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I've been thinking about getting a dual sport. I know a group of guys that are into it. They go for miles and miles on nothing...
I've been thinking about getting a dual sport. I know a group of guys that are into it. They go for miles and miles on nothing but logging roads. I guess some of the scenery is amazing.

Whats the top speed on your WR? Can you maintain freeway speed?
It is a amazing bike. It will get up to 70 pretty quick and supposedly tops out at 85-90 according to other forums I have been on. It gets a little ragged the faster you go but at 70 it is no problem. I got a seat kit for it to make the longer rides a little less pain in the ass.

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I just moved from Texas to Colorado so I can take my dual sporting to a whole. nutha. level.
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2009 KLX250.

Doesn't have a lot of beans, but it's still fun in the woods. And on the roads in between the woods runs.

My kid has been riding it more than me though this year - I gotta get out more....
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I want me one of them Adventure Bikes!
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Dual Sports are awesome.......my current DS is a 2012 KTM 500 XC converted to street legal. Plated and good to goSmile

Had a KTM 990 but for me at under 160 # is was to much for technical segments when DSing. Great bike for psuedo off road for a small guy - perhaps for a man well over 200 # tall and fit the 990 would be great.

I have had the privilige of Riding DS bikes with one of the Icons of motorcycling.....been to S America twice and other awesome rides.
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I had thought about potentially registering and plating a CR500, but I would be in jail faster than you can say "5th gear wheelie". So I just saved myself the trouble.
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I am interested in this too. What are good bikes for this?
If we had a good list of bikes in this thread, it would be awesome.
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I am interested in this too. What are good bikes for this? If we had a good list of bikes in this thread, it would be...
I am interested in this too. What are good bikes for this?
If we had a good list of bikes in this thread, it would be awesome.
Husqvarna has great deals on TE510's and TE310's, KTM has the upper end bikes. I went with the Yamaha as I am done doing heavy offloading and that is where the Husky and KTM will shine. I am primarily doing a little more street the dirt so the Yamaha was a better choice for myself.
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Where about in San Diego do you offroad ? I know there are some areas up around Cahuilla but anything closer to Carlsbad ?
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Yup, when they closed down Clear Creek 5 yrs ago we all bought dual sports so we can now poach and ride wherever the hell we damn well please. Best investment I ever made. Plated 07 WR450, its like a special gift from god that I cherish heavily.

6/14/2013 10:13am Edited Date/Time 6/14/2013 10:22am
I have a 950 adventure S and im not to old to moto.
It's just fun to attack the twisties and battle some offroad after, on a big ass dirtbike like the KTM.
6/14/2013 10:19am
Yes,I have been dual sporting since I was 16 years old,they called them Enduro bikes back then,now at 52 and the racing behind me.I do quite a bit more of it.
I have had converted many dirt bikes to street legal status,a couple of WR's,XR',EXC,KLX..Have a few buddies that are into it also.
Like you racing just is too brutal on the body anymore.
Planned vacations around dual sport rides.
Have done a week in Costa Rica.
9 day trip to Copper Canyon Mexico
Many trips to California, Colorado,Utah,Oregon.plus the home state of AZ has lots of dual sport riding.
Dual sporting has extended my riding years and is a blast,I get to see much more than when I go hiking which is harder on my knees than riding anyway.
Most any riding is good riding.
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Yup, had the pleasure of doing some terrific rides with good people (one or two reports in the Hall of Fame). It's a great way to...
Yup, had the pleasure of doing some terrific rides with good people (one or two reports in the Hall of Fame). It's a great way to stay on a bike, and California especially has some terrific opportunities for organized and self run rides (the Sheetiron in Nor Cal is pretty cool).

GMan does a fair bit, too, I think.

There's no bad time on a bike, and it's a great way to stay on focused on what you can do rather than what days are past.
Gman? That dude rocks!!
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Kudos to Gary for getting as much riding in as he does. Whatever else goes on here, he rides and much respect for that.

As far as bikes, almost all of the bikes that are dual sport ready qualified are pretty good. My 525 was probably the perfect bike, really like the RFS generation engines from KTM, they are billet proof and really easy to maintain (adjusting valves is a snap), six speeds (close or wide ratio), choice of engine sizes. KTM does seem to have the stuff ironed out that were issues with the shift over to the new style engines. In Cali, you can find some 04-06 plated bikes, but technically they are not plateable and you never know if the CARB bureaucrats will catch up with one that made it through the DMV (same with the plated CRX Hondas in Cali). A plated 03 or the 07 OEM dual sport is a pretty nice bike. The Yamaha's a really nice, it's pretty hard to go wrong on any of them. Personally, I'd want a big bore rather than a 250, especially if you'll spend any time at speed on the trail or roads getting to trails.

I'd love to try an Adventure or SE, 990 or 690, but not sure my body has much left for even a 500 bike, which is why I ended up selling my 525 a few years ago.

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I used a DR-Z 400E for a dual sport mount for a few years. It worked very well, soft enough to be comfy, enough power to get you on down the road and that magic e-button. Did a Copper Canyon ride on it and a lot of local stuff, not sure why I moved it on, but will probably pick up another one to compliment the singletrack beast that is my KTM 200.
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Here's a pic of my beast



Deep in Mexico somewhere

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6/14/2013 12:42pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2013 12:46pm
Did somebody say “DualSport”?

Thanks FTE (nice pic) and yea the bottom line is I luv riding motosickles more than anything else I can think of.

With age (55) and two surgeries (first for that) in 2012 was the longest time I have not been on a moto track (15 months and counting).

And you know what—I find myself not missing it that much as I thought. Been keeping busy riding my streetbike and occasional Dual Sport Ride.
Now it’s triple digits and Jet-ski time. Heading out to LAughlin tomorrow and riding the Colorado River--should be FUN!

a streetbike buddy at work had seen my 4 Saloon 4 Lake TT (Tavern to Tavern) slideshows and he’s the type guy that will empty his wallet to buy EVERYTHING in the catalog for his bike….hehehe

He had never been in the dirt and it was quite an adventure for him but he survived (barely) and can’t wait for the 6th Annual TT.

Check out the Movie Trailer:

Movie Clip


Here is the Slideshow:

AZ TT




I ride a 2002 KTM EXC that is perfect for the type of riding I do:



[URL]http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Arizona-s-5th-Annual-TT-R…]


Went for a 640 mile streetbike ride up in the White Mountains over the Holiday and rode some epic roads:






Annual Ride to the Pines....
[URL]https://picasaweb.google.com/103236087598437918425/Alpine#slideshow/588…]


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im getting one next month. really wanted the ktm, but can't justify the $10g price tag.. kicked around the idea of the new CRF250L, but got talked out of that one pretty quick (320lb 250f)... so now it's looking like i'm getting one of these. waiting for it to hit my dealer next month... can't wait.

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6/14/2013 1:53pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2013 1:57pm
Took me about five minutes to fall in love with this badboy. 350- almost 40 HP. Seems like a good displacement vs. weight. Also they said it tops out at 90MPH which is fast enough for me on the street.

KTM EXC 350 F

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Great topic here ... I am selling off some of my older MX bikes in order to buy a DS bike. Will post up when I find one.
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6/14/2013 3:48pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2013 3:49pm
englishman wrote:
Where about in San Diego do you offroad ? I know there are some areas up around Cahuilla but anything closer to Carlsbad ?
Hi Englishman. I actually live right next to Carlsbad, about 5 mins from the old raceway. Probably not the best source for places to ride just yet as I am sure most of the dirt roads/trails I have come across are not legal off roading areas. I take back roads between Vista-Fallbrook-Escondido-Camp Pendleton, lots of nice winding roads and I keep a look out for dirt roads/trails. Have yet to find any off road areas where I feel it would be wise to return multiple times. Still looking, if I find some good areas I will post it on here. When going down Melrose drive (the old Carlsbad downhill/freeway) I did pull off and checked out what was left of the old track....not much left but I think I found devils drop.

I agree with other posters about engine size. If you plan on doing much in the way of hgh speed trails and long distance freeway riding my 250 will go the speed with no problem but it would be much nicer to have a big bore for that. I find I am running in the 40-60 mph range most of the time so the 250 is perfect for that.

Moto soul I love that KTM. I was real tempted to get that but it was about $2,500 over the Yamaha so that is why I went with what I did.
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I had thought about potentially registering and plating a CR500, but I would be in jail faster than you can say "5th gear wheelie". So I...
I had thought about potentially registering and plating a CR500, but I would be in jail faster than you can say "5th gear wheelie". So I just saved myself the trouble.
Drool...


Here's what my "dual sport" looks like. I swear I could take it off road if I just had some knobby tires.

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Yea we've had some good times Dual-Sporting, the people, friends you meet and adventures of it all are Priceless no doubt. Smile






I've done many LA to Barstow to Vegas rides and the Arizona Trail Riders put on an epic event each year. This year is in the beautiful Prescott Wilderness and a "must do" event.

Last yr was in Payson & my ol Cali buds signed up at the last second. They were glad they did and will be back.

Payson DS

Cheers! Cheerful
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6/15/2013 12:57am Edited Date/Time 6/15/2013 1:00am
Drool... [img]https://www.strappe.com/cr500r.jpg[/img] Here's what my "dual sport" looks like. I swear I could take it off road if I just had some knobby tires. [img]http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x266/gojackets21/FZ1%20for%20sale/Photo_090408_004.jpg[/img]
Drool...


Here's what my "dual sport" looks like. I swear I could take it off road if I just had some knobby tires.

Nice BIKE! Woohoo

I had two and just sold "Silver" (2002 fz1) to my buddy who lives in Balboa. He's the Bartender @ the Balboa Saloon and new to streetbikes but we have ridden/raced dirtbikes for 40 yrs.
He doesn't have anyone to ride with so, stroll on in one day on your bike, it would blow his mind! Cool




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Bought a 2013 XC 2013 to go along with my modern and vintage mx bikes in order to do some dual sport riding and love the KTM. So far, have done two of the AMA dual sport rides (Hanging Rock and Flint Ridge) and both were more challenging than I expected...50 miles in the morning and another 50 miles in the afternoon after lunch is rougher than running a few motos. After the Hanging Rock event, it was clear that a set of bark busters were needed...glad I got those on the bike prior to Flint Ridge as it had even tighter single track sections. Doing a week long trail ride trip in Colorado coming up in August and anxious to see how my carb and lungs deal with the high altitude. Anybody have thoughts on running a trials tire vs a knobby for riding in the mountains of Colorado?

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I do both. I have a 2013 KX450F and a 2004 XR650L that I ride. I find myself racing once or twice a month (when it used to be every weekend) and practice riding and dual sporting more. I also hit a vintage event once or twice a year with my 73 CR250 Elsinore. Any time on two wheels is great.

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