What is wrong with Villo's bike?

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He's spinning the tire up a lot. His strength is to be able to ride the corners hard but he hasn't been able to get any traction off the rear wheel all season. I noticed it too when I was watching his GoPro footage from A1.
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slipdog 1/13/2013 7:28pm
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Bridgestone pulled out of MX/SX a few years ago.
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DownSouth 1/13/2013 7:33pm
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The same thing that is wrong with everyones bikes. They get them dialed in so they feel good at the team test track and their home tracks. Then when the actual race season starts they spend a few races trying to cope with different raceday conditions before they hit a setup that works better.
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OldTiddler 1/13/2013 7:36pm
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What's "wrong"?

Fro and RC on the broadcast noted that his front end might not be quite figured out yet, and it's only the second race, on a slippery track.

But really, I think the traction overall is just fine--the guy logged a 50 second lap time (the fastest of the night?) later in the race and ran down TC with the same intensity that he's always brought.
ButteryWaffles 1/13/2013 7:44pm
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Nothing is wrong with his bike. He throws down fast laps in practice, it works fine for Weimer. The competition has stepped up and he has to ride over his head.




Funny how the bike excuse is ok for him.

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chrisbuehler 1/13/2013 7:55pm
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ButteryWaffles wrote:
Nothing is wrong with his bike. He throws down fast laps in practice, it works fine for Weimer. The competition has stepped up and he has...
Nothing is wrong with his bike. He throws down fast laps in practice, it works fine for Weimer. The competition has stepped up and he has to ride over his head.




Funny how the bike excuse is ok for him.
Only Stewart rides over his head, something must be wrong with Villo's bike
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Crush 1/13/2013 7:59pm
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OldTiddler wrote:
What's "wrong"? Fro and RC on the broadcast noted that his front end might not be quite figured out yet, and it's only the second race...
What's "wrong"?

Fro and RC on the broadcast noted that his front end might not be quite figured out yet, and it's only the second race, on a slippery track.

But really, I think the traction overall is just fine--the guy logged a 50 second lap time (the fastest of the night?) later in the race and ran down TC with the same intensity that he's always brought.
When they were talking about that with RV and Chad, I just thought, fuck, how much does the fork help, just run last years gear.

RV and Reedy looked so damn good on last years bikes, coming back from injuries or not, go back to the old setup!
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JeepnMike 1/13/2013 8:02pm
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I asked the same question last week but nobody replied. With his noteable (sarcasm) success starting from lane one last week, did he pick lane one on the start of the main again in Phoenix just to keep it fair for the competition? I was blown away he lined up there again and low and behold, he got a shitty start again.

I think he would ride a different race up front, he just can't seem to get there.
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chrisbuehler 1/13/2013 8:04pm
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Crush wrote:
When they were talking about that with RV and Chad, I just thought, fuck, how much does the fork help, just run last years gear. RV...
When they were talking about that with RV and Chad, I just thought, fuck, how much does the fork help, just run last years gear.

RV and Reedy looked so damn good on last years bikes, coming back from injuries or not, go back to the old setup!
My thought exactly. Seems like all these forks do is cause issues for everyone. When a factory supported guy like RV has issues, what hope do the weekend warriors have with these "superior" forks?
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rider error
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bh626 1/13/2013 8:12pm
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Crush wrote:
When they were talking about that with RV and Chad, I just thought, fuck, how much does the fork help, just run last years gear. RV...
When they were talking about that with RV and Chad, I just thought, fuck, how much does the fork help, just run last years gear.

RV and Reedy looked so damn good on last years bikes, coming back from injuries or not, go back to the old setup!
Exactly, how much better can the new bikes be? The 450's are way overpowered for an SX track already. CR's bike looked great last year.

Maybe part of he deal is that they have to race with current tech to help the factory further the brand?
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chrisbuehler 1/13/2013 8:15pm
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bh626 wrote:
Exactly, how much better can the new bikes be? The 450's are way overpowered for an SX track already. CR's bike looked great last year. Maybe...
Exactly, how much better can the new bikes be? The 450's are way overpowered for an SX track already. CR's bike looked great last year.

Maybe part of he deal is that they have to race with current tech to help the factory further the brand?
Why else would they run the stupid duel exhaust that adds 5lbs to the bike?
scrubbin627 1/13/2013 8:17pm
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Its not the bike....it was the second round. Im sure they will get it straightened out
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sharkey 1/13/2013 9:00pm
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villos only problem is his starts. and he washed out in the same corner canard did, just early in the race
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Rooster 1/13/2013 9:20pm
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He finished second in a very deep field.

Nothing's wrong.
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brianfagan9 1/13/2013 9:31pm
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sharkey wrote:
villos only problem is his starts. and he washed out in the same corner canard did, just early in the race
RV has laid down the fastest lap times the last 2 races and that is in traffic. When he pulls a holeshot or starts in the top 3 and destroys everyone then you guys are gonna be asking the same stupid shit of the other guys. This topic will be completely forgotten when he wins the title anywho.
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jmb227 1/13/2013 9:59pm
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Tucking the front is nothing new for RV. Its just cause he rides balls out and attacks the corners hard. When you do that front end washouts are going to happen. Hes just fast enough that normally it isnt an issue.
His starts are his issue this year. If he gets a holeshot he will checkout faster then a kid trying to buy condoms.
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bh626 wrote:
Exactly, how much better can the new bikes be? The 450's are way overpowered for an SX track already. CR's bike looked great last year. Maybe...
Exactly, how much better can the new bikes be? The 450's are way overpowered for an SX track already. CR's bike looked great last year.

Maybe part of he deal is that they have to race with current tech to help the factory further the brand?
How would anyone know what's inside the suspension? All of the suspension looks the same on the outside. . .

I'd say they should go back to the old suspension and continue to progress the new suspension until it's ready for race day.

But is the fork really the issue? He was able to throw down some FAST laps with the same suspension. I think it was just a minor rider error.
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burn1986 1/14/2013 6:48am
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Well, RV was coming through the pack well, he just got held up a little. If he gets a start, it will be hard to catch him. If anything, the fork rebound was set wrong.
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Mx4life320 1/14/2013 7:04am
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He washes out the front end and now theres a problem with his bike?? C mon guys.. Really.. Its round 2, of course the bike isnt set up perfect. Also, it was a slick flat corner, Trey fell there too, Is the CRF broken too? Oh Wait barica won so nvm. RV was pushing a little to hard. Thats all..
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danman 1/14/2013 8:40am
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mototed 82 wrote:
from the horses mouth "its all my fault i washed the front end out "

http://www.pulpmx.com/sites/default/files/audio/2013-phoenix-villopoto…
Jamie_Munro wrote:
RV sticks it to him @ the end that's hilarious. Clearly a bit pi**ed off
I love it. RV should have said it would have worked but the setup was just a bit off, but you wouldn't know jack about setup since you got fired.
Either way, funny stuff.
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fader418 1/14/2013 9:30am
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If you want to win the 450 class you need to start in the top 3, PERIOD...
theonlinelegend 1/14/2013 9:44am
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Nothings wrong with the bike, but his gate selection this week seemed off.
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JeepnMike 1/14/2013 9:48am
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theonlinelegend wrote:
Nothings wrong with the bike, but his gate selection this week seemed off.
Same gate selection as previous week, same shitty start.
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rollingtach 1/14/2013 9:49am
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He had his starts down pretty good last year but now it seems as though the reduced
weight of the air forks has thrown off all the previous race settings. You probably can
only do so much in testing to adapt to the changes but it'll take race time to really work
out the differences.

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