Please JS7 Don't Race Outdoors...

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5/8/2011 9:55am
The great outdoors will offer js7 more room to(cartwheel,flipover,bounce,lawndart&ragdoll)!!
Compared to the strict confines of stadium walls!!!! could be a epic seasons of highlights.
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5/8/2011 10:05am
At least this time when bubba crashed in front of K Dub he wasnt pushing his bike into him like he did in A1 09 which allowed the cocky Grant to win, this time he just rode over his head and took K Dub out in the usual Stewart way, which is never crash ALONE, this is the first time I have ever said Stewart is a danger to the comp, but this year clearly proved this. Everyone is pushing but why is it Stewart week in and week crashing worse than he ever has, even worse than 2002!!
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5/8/2011 10:18am
Dont beat me up,could it be too much horsepower for JS7?
not ? his ability to ride a motorcyle. the old saying to go fast
sometimes u need to go slower!!
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5/8/2011 10:23am
smeg wrote:
LOL....u guys are easy.......hehehehe
You do realize you are not even a moderately skilled troll right?

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5/8/2011 10:31am
jerryhk91 wrote:
When did James ever take it to RC Outdoors ? I must have slept the 05 thru 07 season.
`ol Ger wrote:
Smile that's easy.

he didn't.
washougal, glen helen.... help me out here.
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5/8/2011 10:38am
I don't quiet remember him taking it to RC unless you are talking about this; https://youtu.be/aKjLFCKjLsg Yeah RC clean pass on Stewart then gets landed on...
I don't quiet remember him taking it to RC unless you are talking about this;

https://youtu.be/aKjLFCKjLsg

Yeah RC clean pass on Stewart then gets landed on, he sure did put it on him.
Thankfully RC got up and rode away from this. This is exactly what other racers do not need to be worrying about with him around them.

I said this elsewhere, but RV is shaking his head as he goes by Stewart in the whoops last night. That speaks volumes of what other riders are thinking about it.

Can anyone think of a MX/SX title contender that crashed himself out of so many races in one season, ever?
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5/8/2011 11:06am
Jabjr222 wrote:
Seriously, can someone put together a list of the riders taken out, either directly or indirectly, by bubba over the years? He is unarguably the fastest...
Seriously, can someone put together a list of the riders taken out, either directly or indirectly, by bubba over the years? He is unarguably the fastest guy on two wheels and no one can deny that, but I can't recall a rider being such a hazard to the people around him. Yeah, last night was a racing incident but hasn't he had a huge number of "racing incidents"?
KAWboy14 wrote:
villopoto
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Bubba's victims:

1. Reed (Lost count really, but let's just mention the out-of-control take-out from behind in the whoops a couple of weeks ago)
2. Windham twice (last night, apparently, and he also pushed his bike into his way as he got up after his crash with Reed at Anaheim(?) a couple of years ago)
3. Carmichael (Jumped on his head...)
4. That kid over the triple last year, forget who it was.
5. Tedesco (rode back onto the track without looking on the landing of a double when Tedesco was already in the air)
6. Wasn't there somebody in Toronto?
7. James Stewart (He's cleaned himself out more times than even he can remember)

There must be more that I can't remember off the top of my head

Now, make a similar list for any one other single rider and see if you get as many.
5/8/2011 11:25am
Black cat has used up his nine lives. Hope someone puts a stop to it before....
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5/8/2011 1:55pm
Jabjr222 wrote:
Seriously, can someone put together a list of the riders taken out, either directly or indirectly, by bubba over the years? He is unarguably the fastest...
Seriously, can someone put together a list of the riders taken out, either directly or indirectly, by bubba over the years? He is unarguably the fastest guy on two wheels and no one can deny that, but I can't recall a rider being such a hazard to the people around him. Yeah, last night was a racing incident but hasn't he had a huge number of "racing incidents"?
KAWboy14 wrote:
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Robgvx wrote:
Bubba's victims: 1. Reed (Lost count really, but let's just mention the out-of-control take-out from behind in the whoops a couple of weeks ago) 2. Windham...
Bubba's victims:

1. Reed (Lost count really, but let's just mention the out-of-control take-out from behind in the whoops a couple of weeks ago)
2. Windham twice (last night, apparently, and he also pushed his bike into his way as he got up after his crash with Reed at Anaheim(?) a couple of years ago)
3. Carmichael (Jumped on his head...)
4. That kid over the triple last year, forget who it was.
5. Tedesco (rode back onto the track without looking on the landing of a double when Tedesco was already in the air)
6. Wasn't there somebody in Toronto?
7. James Stewart (He's cleaned himself out more times than even he can remember)

There must be more that I can't remember off the top of my head

Now, make a similar list for any one other single rider and see if you get as many.
no. 4 was partridge and 6 i think was preston. didn't ivan get injured a couple of times by bubba.
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5/8/2011 2:07pm
WhKnuckle wrote:
Yeah, he doesn't ride good outdoors. He's only got 3 national titles, a 24-0 450 season and he was the only guy who could consistently take...
Yeah, he doesn't ride good outdoors. He's only got 3 national titles, a 24-0 450 season and he was the only guy who could consistently take it to RC. We don't want riders of that low caliber messing up the racing.
Easy killer. He never took it to RC. It was the other way around, which caused several concussions for JS. If I'm not mistaken he won 3 overalls against RC from 05 to 07, one of which RC DNF'd both motos at Glen Helen. Correct me if I'm wrong. You should have ended your comment after the word "season".
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5/8/2011 4:08pm
rodb wrote:
The great outdoors will offer js7 more room to(cartwheel,flipover,bounce,lawndart&ragdoll)!!
Compared to the strict confines of stadium walls!!!! could be a epic seasons of highlights.
this
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5/8/2011 4:10pm
MOTOPHILE wrote:
I want to see a clean season of racing and the "what if's" of you being out of MX are better than the "what if's" of...
I want to see a clean season of racing and the "what if's" of you being out of MX are better than the "what if's" of you taking out other riders. Please just stay away.
Sincerely, MX Fan
Wow! A lot of MX police on Vital.
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The '11 season offers some excellent opportunities to produce a JBS7 Greatest Hits dvd.
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5/8/2011 4:50pm
Jabjr222 wrote:
Seriously, can someone put together a list of the riders taken out, either directly or indirectly, by bubba over the years? He is unarguably the fastest...
Seriously, can someone put together a list of the riders taken out, either directly or indirectly, by bubba over the years? He is unarguably the fastest guy on two wheels and no one can deny that, but I can't recall a rider being such a hazard to the people around him. Yeah, last night was a racing incident but hasn't he had a huge number of "racing incidents"?
KAWboy14 wrote:
villopoto
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Robgvx wrote:
Bubba's victims: 1. Reed (Lost count really, but let's just mention the out-of-control take-out from behind in the whoops a couple of weeks ago) 2. Windham...
Bubba's victims:

1. Reed (Lost count really, but let's just mention the out-of-control take-out from behind in the whoops a couple of weeks ago)
2. Windham twice (last night, apparently, and he also pushed his bike into his way as he got up after his crash with Reed at Anaheim(?) a couple of years ago)
3. Carmichael (Jumped on his head...)
4. That kid over the triple last year, forget who it was.
5. Tedesco (rode back onto the track without looking on the landing of a double when Tedesco was already in the air)
6. Wasn't there somebody in Toronto?
7. James Stewart (He's cleaned himself out more times than even he can remember)

There must be more that I can't remember off the top of my head

Now, make a similar list for any one other single rider and see if you get as many.
Jason Thomas will have knee surgery Thursday instead of racing the outdoors. He's been racing with a blown up knee since Stew landed on him mid-season.

Pushing the limit is one thing. Habitually injuring other riders while riding over his head is another, not to mention hazardous and dangerous.

In many many years of racing and going to races, I've never once wished an injury on anyone... but after watching him blow up JT like that earlier in the season, it'd been all right with me if Chad hadn't been there to keep JS from exploding into the stands in Dallas. Pretty tired of seeing friends of mine (JT) and riders who deserve immense respect (KW and CR) -- with something like 350-400 SX main events between the three of them -- pay the price for Stewart's self-centered recklessness.

That's not "just racing"... it's just stupid. No, it's more than stupid. It's just wrong.
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5/8/2011 6:25pm
WhKnuckle wrote:
Yeah, he doesn't ride good outdoors. He's only got 3 national titles, a 24-0 450 season and he was the only guy who could consistently take...
Yeah, he doesn't ride good outdoors. He's only got 3 national titles, a 24-0 450 season and he was the only guy who could consistently take it to RC. We don't want riders of that low caliber messing up the racing.
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And RC was lucky bubba didn't kill him when he jumped on him.
And Stewart was lucky Carmichael missed landing on him by inches in almost the same situation a year later at High Point. Carmichael was no more in control of that situation than Stewart was the year before.

I am huge RC fan, but no one knocked down more people, road more aggressively, and took more big chances than him.
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5/9/2011 10:19am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2011 10:29am
This thread is crazy and doesn't make sense, I hope this is not related to race issues instead of race incidents? Sad

I have seen the mofo ride a couple of times, so much talent it's creepy, and I couldn't care less if he's the devil himself (which he's not). Him not riding is like putting Kate Beckinsale in a burka. It's just doesn't make sense.
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5/9/2011 10:36am
DrSweden wrote:
This thread is crazy and doesn't make sense, I hope this is not related to race issues instead of race incidents? :( I have seen the...
This thread is crazy and doesn't make sense, I hope this is not related to race issues instead of race incidents? Sad

I have seen the mofo ride a couple of times, so much talent it's creepy, and I couldn't care less if he's the devil himself (which he's not). Him not riding is like putting Kate Beckinsale in a burka. It's just doesn't make sense.
In my case it has absolutely nothing to do with race. It has to do with the fact that Stewart has become a danger to himself and to the riders around him.
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5/9/2011 10:40am
Yes, Stewart has managed to take out a lot of riders this season, as well as in the past, and I agree he probably needs to work on his 'tunnel vision', if you want to call it that, but you have to admit he's not taking guys out on purpose, in most cases.

Although #7 isn't my favorite rider, and I'd rather see Villopoto, Reed, or Windham beat him in any given race, I still want to see the guy ride, he's amazing on a bike.

I don't understand why anybody wouldn't want to see as many of the top riders out there as possible. That's what makes it exciting as a fan. The more fast guys in the mix, the better, IMO.
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5/9/2011 10:40am
Anytime JS is in it to win it, we all benefit from it. I would love to see him line it up against this field. He can be a crazy motherfucker no doubt, but you can't deny he doesn't give it his all every time out. he is the past piece of an outdoor puzzle that would be amazing.

Of course, he isn't going to do it so we are all talking out of our ass, but the thought of him doing it is awesome!
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5/9/2011 10:50am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2011 10:59am
Jabjr222 wrote:
Seriously, can someone put together a list of the riders taken out, either directly or indirectly, by bubba over the years? He is unarguably the fastest...
Seriously, can someone put together a list of the riders taken out, either directly or indirectly, by bubba over the years? He is unarguably the fastest guy on two wheels and no one can deny that, but I can't recall a rider being such a hazard to the people around him. Yeah, last night was a racing incident but hasn't he had a huge number of "racing incidents"?
exactly! Ive been saying it for several years
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5/9/2011 10:52am
Getting a bit fed up with all this negative bullshit about James Stewart.

The guy is a genius on a dirtbike and he makes this shit exciting.
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5/9/2011 11:01am
JCRF217 wrote:
Why would you ever want a title contender, that brings excitement to the series, to not race? That has to be one of the dumbest things...
Why would you ever want a title contender, that brings excitement to the series, to not race? That has to be one of the dumbest things that was ever written on this page of all-time. I don't know if this thread should be in dumbgeon or hall-of-fame for how unbeleavably stupid it is.
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5/9/2011 11:01am
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In my case it has absolutely nothing to do with race. It has to do with the fact that Stewart has become a danger to himself...
In my case it has absolutely nothing to do with race. It has to do with the fact that Stewart has become a danger to himself and to the riders around him.
I was not aiming to you spec, but you got that. I just don't get how something that isn't an issue for his competitors is an issue for the fans? I assume if was a danger to the riders around him the riders would do something with the help of AMA?

Also, watching James ride lap after lap during practice, qualifying and mains with so much faster speed means he has to pass A LOT of riders and I saw how he backed down, screwed up his qualifying time and repeatedly took other lines to avoid all the road blocks he constant has to overcome... I guess if you are as fast as Stew, you increase the risk to hit someone...

And this is all based on the fact that Windham actually hitting him?
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5/9/2011 11:06am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2011 11:07am
jamma10 wrote:
Getting a bit fed up with all this negative bullshit about James Stewart. The guy is a genius on a dirtbike and he makes this shit...
Getting a bit fed up with all this negative bullshit about James Stewart.

The guy is a genius on a dirtbike and he makes this shit exciting.
Don't sweat it dude, the sport has a lot more idiot fans than it ever has. Just sit back and laugh at them.
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5/9/2011 11:12am
Isnt a "knucklepuff" the same as a peter puffer?
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5/9/2011 12:04pm
Stewart is a very talented rider. I am not sure that the fastest man on the planet moniker is deserved as he has periods of brilliance followed by periods of less than brilliance. At Vegas, after watching his most recent "less than brilliant" crash, my initial response was "another F*** Stewart crash, taking Kdub with him". Fankly I was starting to lean towards those the feel he is a hazard to himself and others. After reflection though, if the Riders can live with him, then who am I to complain. It just seems his being out of control cost more than just himself the championship this year. Anyway, I am beginning to wonder if the increased competition is causing a level of desperation in Stewart that is screwing with his head. He seems to be self-destructing both on and off the track. (Bear in mind that I only consider his recent run in with the law as imature stupidity). Frankly though there seems to be a pattern emerging. I hope he gets it together and has the mental discipline equivalent with his talent. If not I'll probably be saying often "another F*** Stewart crash". At some point though, enough is enough.

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