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I would hope that the old promoters would see it only as business. It seems this industry has a whole lot of "personal" and at the same time a whole lot of "business". Is it a big middle finger when Red Bull moves from Honda to KTM? Should Red Bull have waited a year when making the move out of...

I don't expect that......but it seemed the second the current promoters announced their retirement Southwick was proclaimed dead and buried. Everything I was hearing from MXSports and Weege and Fro on TV was that Southwick was closing down, folding up the tents, and going away......as a track not just a National. Then I saw a glimmer of hope in a...

You are leaving out when contracts are signed and where riders are at that point. Mid-January people were asking "what's wrong with RV?" Pre-Hangtown some STILL had James coming out and handing Dungey and RV a beat down. Peick has been real good this year and will have offers for next year....but beating Reed isn't saying much right now. He...

In constant amazement as to the conspiracy theorists whether 9/11, lunar landing, Area 51 etc. Now it enters SX racing? I was shocked 1 pr 2 had these thoughts.......there are many out there though. Stay away from anything sharper than a bowling ball. It really explains why Dungey got no penalty at all for passing Millsaps......he's with Monster too right?

Loved reading through these old thoughts on the new guard. Now. We can see Tomac showing how it just isn't that easy on the big bikes. The lap times he was posting in the west series had many thinking he would be winning the 450 class if he got on one. Also how Barcia's fast start slowed considerably. Always fun...

Actually Millsaps said Dungey doubled in the same spot under the same red cross flag......he wasn't penalized at all. And I'm sure they would have dq'd reed, canard, Barcia, or James. Funny.

That's what you are missing! Ambiguity allows that to happen! If the rules stated no passing is allowed until after the next corner, it is black and white. If the down rider was 10 feet further from the corner, it would be zero issue today. I don't think any of them should have been roosting and scrubbing as they "rolled"...

I am the one saying the rulebook is fucked! I'm saying RV absolutely should have been docked on the first instance AT THE FINISH, not his restart position. That was all at the hands if the race official, if it was an infraction, what the penalty is, and when the penalty is to be handed out. I think that is...

So you like it like this? Cool! Good point on congress by the way? congress? It is damn simple to put in writing what the penalty will be for jumping/passing under Red Cross flags and when the Red Cross zone begins and ends. It can be argued Stewart should not have passed into the section based on what the rules...

That's in the rulebook? No, you just made it up. Nowhere does it say Red Cross means medical peeps are on the track. It has to do with how bad a spot a down rider is in and how much danger he is in. Often the Red Cross will be out before any medical peeps can get there so...... Point...

It would sound exactly the same except the avatars would reversed.

Well, didn't think you'd have an intelligent comment. A rulebook for little league can't be ambiguous. If it is, it is a suggestion book. That's what SX has, an official suggestion book. All of the suggestions within are malleable and up for interpretation for all, as long as it is what the race official says. Any rulebook that gives the...

That was good.

What concerns you or me may not concern RV. That type of wording does not belong in a rulebook for a professional sport. Ambiguous at bet. Seriously though, we have seen riders getting tripled past when they are at the landing of the jump with yellows only. A guy starting his bike off to the side of the corner exiting...

They need to make it clear starting now for all of them how Red Cross flags will be displayed, when it is ok stop paying them mind, and what the penalties will be (I'm all for a lap). Also it needs to be made serious how the flaggers will show. Get them out into the track and get more of...

I always am fascinated when rule-type stuff like this happens, because no one knows how it will be handled......or can argue how it should be handled. What does a Team manager use to argue with when everything is left up to a judgement from the race official? If the rulebook stated how something like the RV restart penalty was to...

Surprising I would agree......and that those that dislike RV disagree. Fact is RV is still behind James here and the Red Cross is just being held way off to the side. RV was very stupid for even attempting to pass in that corner for fear of being penalized, but the photo doesn't make a very good case, unless you are...

http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/pdf/AMA_SupercrossRulebook13_web.pdf Page 25. You can't pass until past the "area of concern". Usually Red Cross pertains to triples not corners. If rule was black and white, cannot pass at all from the sight of the Red Cross until THROUGH the next corner? That would work. "Area of concern" leaves a judgement call in the riders minds too. Rules need to...

Go read the rulebook. The part that dictates about flags. Then try to find the part about where it is ok to pass after the Red Cross, what the penalties are, how they should be displayed, etc. All you will find is that Red Cross means you roll the jumps and you don't pass over the jumps. It doesn't have...