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They were both fined, btw
Page 25. You can't pass until past the "area of concern".
You have posted that same stupid picture 6 times now.
As for the original topic, the AMA made their decision, its time to move on to Daytona.
Whole lotta crying around here going on.
Pit Row
Would Kongols be calling for his head?
LMAO
Rules infraction one and the time the penalty was handed down
Rules infraction two and if it was an actual penalty.
As for infraction one, it seems to me that administering the penalty "mid-race" which is essentially what they did during the re-start is an improper application, and I say this because had the race NOT been red flagged, the penalty would have been administered post-race, so the rider actually gains an unfair advantage due to the race stoppage. It's an unfair advantage because it was administered mid-race and not post race as infractions are typically done. We do not use a black flag to make riders stop in the mechanics area for a "stop and go" or "drive through" penalty like in auto racing and we do not use a "meatball" flag in MX/SX like used in road racing for forced pit stops due to rule infractions. Not to mention, lots of people were joking at the time that all the penalty is going to do during the restart is motivate RV, again, presenting an unfair advantage.
As for infraction two, the jumps have flashing red lights, there were two Red Cross flags and multiple yellow flags, so the idea that RV didn't know or see it is pure silliness. As for where the Red Cross flag area ends in regards to there being multiple flags displayed, what happens when you have a number of flags out as with last nights incident and as was said earlier "you go with the last flag shown," we'll many time, since they're displayed simultaneously, you can have Red Cross, yellow, yellow, Red Cross and then yellow again, so is the rider to, in the space of a hundred feet, to not pass-pass-not pass-pass? That is very confusing and the Red Cross flag area is not defined. It has always been my understanding that Red Cross flag supersedes yellow and that is the primary indicator, and you do not pass until past the "incident." Regardless of what the rule book says, in laymens terms, that is how I have always understood it, otherwise a yellow flag should NEVER be displayed when a red flashing light or Red Cross flag is displayed.
Last point and more of a question directed to GuyB, and the other powers that be who read here, is there an appeals process? We know when the fuel issue happened with RC, it was appealed to the FIM who over ruled the AMA decision, is that an option here? Does Rockstar Suzuki or Yoshimura Suzuki have any addition recourse or is trackside ruling final, without appeal?
There is nothing in the rule book that allows the penalty(or non-penalty in this case) that they assessed.
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