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That is what the AMA is saying.
Villo didn't win because of it, Stewart didn't lose because of it, the downed rider wasn't really even hurt apparently and certainly didn't get hurt any worse, but it was a really, really bad move by Villo and the AMA needs to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Taken from another post.... How is that OK?
It sure does say a lot about the AMA.
How many times has this kid jumped on flashing lights/medic flags and gotten away with it? That's no good AMA.
Pit Row
d. The Race Director may pronounce the following penalties.
• Warning
• Fine
• Lap deductions or finishing position deductions
• Time and/or point penalties
• Disqualification
• Suspension
• Probation not exceeding 12 months from the date of offence
The initial penalty of docking three spots in the restart is not a penalty which the Race Director is allowed to impose under the rule book. Any argument that doing so consitutes a "time" penalty does not work as the word time means just that, not restart location. Further, all of the above penalties seem to be ones that are imposed after the conclusion of the race. Proper handling of the initial penalty would have been to allow the race to restart in original running order and then impose the penalty. The Race Director is not given (under the rules) discretion to impose penalties other than those specifically stated.
Going on to the second arguable Red Cross flag violation, a strained review of the tapes could remotely conclude that no violation occurred. Is this really the proper message to send to the Riders regarding the respect to be given to a Red Cross flag? The flag was clearly dislayed. The offending Rider had a previous violation IN THE SAME race. Yet it is construed to be no penalty. Since the purpose of the red cross flag is safety to the riders and medical crew (something that would seem to be of paramount importance) perhaps strict interpretation should have been used.
The solution to these issues would probably be to add another subpart to paragraph d, such as:
• Or any other wild idea the Race Director comes up with at the time
GuyB, this post isn't directed at any comment you made even though I quoted your posting, the quotation just semed a good place to start.
As for the handling of these incidents, I'd award an EPIC FAIL.
Page 25. You can't pass until past the "area of concern". Usually Red Cross pertains to triples not corners. If rule was black and white, cannot pass at all from the sight of the Red Cross until THROUGH the next corner? That would work. "Area of concern" leaves a judgement call in the riders minds too. Rules need to cover it all from front to back so there is never ever a need for a judgement call. No mention of penalties at all.
Now as for how the penalty was handed out prior to the re-start for passing on the red cross, I have no idea.
The person I feel bad for is Milsaps. He's the one who took the biggest hit. That situation (the first penalty assessment) could potentially cost him a championship.
2 times in one race.
Same crap last year. It's sad, but why follow any of the rules. Just play dumb when you break one.
@DavidVuillemin another great example of how the AMAs rule book is grey and a joke
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