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Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they...

Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they cared about law and order?

Does it bother you that your leader campaigned on staying out of wars, being a no wars president, and opposing regime change, now in the last week he’s flipped on all three of those?

This is why I only pop in here every few months. All you people in the MAGA cult here cannot under any circumstances say your guy was wrong. He will change his stance multiple times a day and you guys do too right there with him. All you guys ever have is insults. No evidence to back up your claims. Nothing. Every actual conservative policy falls flat on its face when applied to him. But he’s your leader anyway. Why?

Wow, doesn't a cult follow their leader blindly knowing it's wrong?Thats the Dems as a whole, starting riots in the streets when dem politicians say "take...

Wow, doesn't a cult follow their leader blindly knowing it's wrong?

Thats the Dems as a whole, starting riots in the streets when dem politicians say "take to the streets and be seen and heard",  maxi pad waters called on her supporters to publicly confront and harass members of the Trump administration.

You have it completely backwards who the cult is.

No. People in cults almost always don’t actually know they’re in a cult.

I condemn all rioters. Anyone who rioted during BLM, burned Teslas, or attacked police on January 6th should be prosecuted accordingly. Your guy pardoned violent rioters who injured police officers. That okay with you?

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Well, YOU should be used to it then, LOL

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We all should be used to it, just because you didn't like Biden doesn't mean that you aren't included in the group of people he made...

We all should be used to it, just because you didn't like Biden doesn't mean that you aren't included in the group of people he made look like idiots.

We're all Americans.

"We're all Americans." - Some more than others.....

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I get exhausted just trying to stay current with what's going on.  

I don't know how some of you can spend so much time in the trenches fighting this out.

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Do you love the way your leader is handling this situation? Diplomacy via social media?

it's 2025, and I have no issues.You get your panties in a bunch anytime he does anything.Much better than that geezer we had the last 4...

it's 2025, and I have no issues.

You get your panties in a bunch anytime he does anything.

Much better than that geezer we had the last 4 years.

Thank you

Luke

Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they...

Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they cared about law and order?

Does it bother you that your leader campaigned on staying out of wars, being a no wars president, and opposing regime change, now in the last week he’s flipped on all three of those?

This is why I only pop in here every few months. All you people in the MAGA cult here cannot under any circumstances say your guy was wrong. He will change his stance multiple times a day and you guys do too right there with him. All you guys ever have is insults. No evidence to back up your claims. Nothing. Every actual conservative policy falls flat on its face when applied to him. But he’s your leader anyway. Why?

Ono Hombre, "...........3rd base" LOL

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Do you love the way your leader is handling this situation? Diplomacy via social media?

it's 2025, and I have no issues.You get your panties in a bunch anytime he does anything.Much better than that geezer we had the last 4...

it's 2025, and I have no issues.

You get your panties in a bunch anytime he does anything.

Much better than that geezer we had the last 4 years.

Thank you

Luke

Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they...

Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they cared about law and order?

Does it bother you that your leader campaigned on staying out of wars, being a no wars president, and opposing regime change, now in the last week he’s flipped on all three of those?

This is why I only pop in here every few months. All you people in the MAGA cult here cannot under any circumstances say your guy was wrong. He will change his stance multiple times a day and you guys do too right there with him. All you guys ever have is insults. No evidence to back up your claims. Nothing. Every actual conservative policy falls flat on its face when applied to him. But he’s your leader anyway. Why?

Dude, don't even start with the "law & order" BS... We could go on forever with a list about your "side". 

We are staying out of "wars"... Did you hear anyone declare war? If so, please point me to the site or article stating as such... President Trump is a no wars president, he is trying to end the Iran / Israel conflict and the Ukraine / Russia one as well. Give it time, he's only been the president for 6 months. And where did he specifically say he wanted regime change? Please point me to the actual article or site where he says that. You should go work for MSDNC with that spin... He's my (and yours, like it or not) President because he has the balls to do the difficult and uncomfortable things that no other president is recent times were willing or able to do. I don't agree with everything he does or says, but I believe he has the best interest of the majority of the American people in mind. Perfect, not hardly, but way better than anyone else lately. 

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it's 2025, and I have no issues.You get your panties in a bunch anytime he does anything.Much better than that geezer we had the last 4...

it's 2025, and I have no issues.

You get your panties in a bunch anytime he does anything.

Much better than that geezer we had the last 4 years.

Thank you

Luke

Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they...

Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they cared about law and order?

Does it bother you that your leader campaigned on staying out of wars, being a no wars president, and opposing regime change, now in the last week he’s flipped on all three of those?

This is why I only pop in here every few months. All you people in the MAGA cult here cannot under any circumstances say your guy was wrong. He will change his stance multiple times a day and you guys do too right there with him. All you guys ever have is insults. No evidence to back up your claims. Nothing. Every actual conservative policy falls flat on its face when applied to him. But he’s your leader anyway. Why?

Hudweiser9 wrote:
Dude, don't even start with the "law & order" BS... We could go on forever with a list about your "side". We are staying out of "wars"...

Dude, don't even start with the "law & order" BS... We could go on forever with a list about your "side". 

We are staying out of "wars"... Did you hear anyone declare war? If so, please point me to the site or article stating as such... President Trump is a no wars president, he is trying to end the Iran / Israel conflict and the Ukraine / Russia one as well. Give it time, he's only been the president for 6 months. And where did he specifically say he wanted regime change? Please point me to the actual article or site where he says that. You should go work for MSDNC with that spin... He's my (and yours, like it or not) President because he has the balls to do the difficult and uncomfortable things that no other president is recent times were willing or able to do. I don't agree with everything he does or says, but I believe he has the best interest of the majority of the American people in mind. Perfect, not hardly, but way better than anyone else lately. 

I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be both.

Ah the ol “we haven’t declared war so we aren’t at war” argument. Nice one. Go tell all the families of dead soldiers from Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq their loved ones weren’t at war.

I’m giving him the “time” he set himself. He said he’d end both major conflicts within 24 hours of inauguration. Should I not hold him to that standard?

Go ahead and prove you disagree with him on some things then. Name them here please.

As far as when did he say anything about regime change, he posted this just minutes after his Secretary of Defense said we are not in the regime change business:

“It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"

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Love might be a little strong to use when talking about politicians... But, yes, I approve of the way he's handling the situation. And let's be...

Love might be a little strong to use when talking about politicians... But, yes, I approve of the way he's handling the situation. And let's be real, he is not using social media as his diplomatic tool, but you know that and are just trying to get one over on anyone supporting President Trump in this matter. I'm sure he was working the phones to all parties involved, using Qatar as the mediator. Heard on the news just this morning he was on the phone to Netanyahu about stopping the conflict. Was it premature to announce it on social media, probably, considering the players involved. Peace between these two nations will be a delicate and difficult thing to manage.Hopefully cooler heads prevail and both sides stop the fighting. We will see..

Did you approve of him ripping apart the diplomatic agreement the Obama Administration had made with Iran to ensure they would never come close to getting...

Did you approve of him ripping apart the diplomatic agreement the Obama Administration had made with Iran to ensure they would never come close to getting a nuclear weapon? Iran was adhering to that and allowed multiple inspections. Not a single shot fired. It was only after this administration ripped apart that deal and said that agreement is no more that Iran said okay I guess the deal is off and went ahead and began their nuclear program again. On its face, sure, there’s a strong argument this strike was necessary. We can’t allow Iran to even come close to getting a nuclear weapon. But I refuse to give credit to a person who intentionally sets a house on fire then comes screaming to me about how they were able to save the dog inside.

Yes, because that "deal" was BS. All it did was kick the proverbial can down the road (it was only good for 10 years) for the next administration to deal with. And trust Iran to adhere to the "rules"? I don't trust Iran as far as I could spit. If you honestly think Iran was going to stick to the rules of the deal, I have some ocean-front property in Nebraska to sell you. No, Iran didn't fire any shots, but their proxies sure did. And that's how Iran operates, using proxies (Hamas, Al-Queida, Hezbollah, etc... ) to do their dirty work while keeping their hands "clean".

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I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be...

I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be both.

Ah the ol “we haven’t declared war so we aren’t at war” argument. Nice one. Go tell all the families of dead soldiers from Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq their loved ones weren’t at war.

I’m giving him the “time” he set himself. He said he’d end both major conflicts within 24 hours of inauguration. Should I not hold him to that standard?

Go ahead and prove you disagree with him on some things then. Name them here please.

As far as when did he say anything about regime change, he posted this just minutes after his Secretary of Defense said we are not in the regime change business:

“It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"

You saying you don't have a 'side' has to be one of the most dishonest things I have ever seen on this website.  Just a straight up lie.

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Hudweiser9 wrote:
Love might be a little strong to use when talking about politicians... But, yes, I approve of the way he's handling the situation. And let's be...

Love might be a little strong to use when talking about politicians... But, yes, I approve of the way he's handling the situation. And let's be real, he is not using social media as his diplomatic tool, but you know that and are just trying to get one over on anyone supporting President Trump in this matter. I'm sure he was working the phones to all parties involved, using Qatar as the mediator. Heard on the news just this morning he was on the phone to Netanyahu about stopping the conflict. Was it premature to announce it on social media, probably, considering the players involved. Peace between these two nations will be a delicate and difficult thing to manage.Hopefully cooler heads prevail and both sides stop the fighting. We will see..

Did you approve of him ripping apart the diplomatic agreement the Obama Administration had made with Iran to ensure they would never come close to getting...

Did you approve of him ripping apart the diplomatic agreement the Obama Administration had made with Iran to ensure they would never come close to getting a nuclear weapon? Iran was adhering to that and allowed multiple inspections. Not a single shot fired. It was only after this administration ripped apart that deal and said that agreement is no more that Iran said okay I guess the deal is off and went ahead and began their nuclear program again. On its face, sure, there’s a strong argument this strike was necessary. We can’t allow Iran to even come close to getting a nuclear weapon. But I refuse to give credit to a person who intentionally sets a house on fire then comes screaming to me about how they were able to save the dog inside.

Hudweiser9 wrote:
Yes, because that "deal" was BS. All it did was kick the proverbial can down the road (it was only good for 10 years) for the...

Yes, because that "deal" was BS. All it did was kick the proverbial can down the road (it was only good for 10 years) for the next administration to deal with. And trust Iran to adhere to the "rules"? I don't trust Iran as far as I could spit. If you honestly think Iran was going to stick to the rules of the deal, I have some ocean-front property in Nebraska to sell you. No, Iran didn't fire any shots, but their proxies sure did. And that's how Iran operates, using proxies (Hamas, Al-Queida, Hezbollah, etc... ) to do their dirty work while keeping their hands "clean".

We didn’t trust Iran to adhere to the rules. Part of the deal was allowing multiple inspections throughout the year. Those were being done and, up until we broke the deal, Iran was adhering to it. After we ripped up the deal, October 7th happened and they resumed their nuclear program. Maybe they would have anyway. Who knows? We will never know. None of this was ever about “trusting” Iran. We didn’t have to. In the agreement, we were able to inspect them to ensure all was being done as agreed upon. If your guy made this exact deal, you’d call him a master negotiator. “Wow look at that. Incredible. They agreed to stop their nuclear program and allow multiple yearly inspections and all we had to do was unfreeze their own money. Art of the deal baby! This is why we needed a businessman in the White House.”

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We didn’t trust Iran to adhere to the rules. Part of the deal was allowing multiple inspections throughout the year. Those were being done and, up...

We didn’t trust Iran to adhere to the rules. Part of the deal was allowing multiple inspections throughout the year. Those were being done and, up until we broke the deal, Iran was adhering to it. After we ripped up the deal, October 7th happened and they resumed their nuclear program. Maybe they would have anyway. Who knows? We will never know. None of this was ever about “trusting” Iran. We didn’t have to. In the agreement, we were able to inspect them to ensure all was being done as agreed upon. If your guy made this exact deal, you’d call him a master negotiator. “Wow look at that. Incredible. They agreed to stop their nuclear program and allow multiple yearly inspections and all we had to do was unfreeze their own money. Art of the deal baby! This is why we needed a businessman in the White House.”

So much truth here but all the Trump Loyalists won't be able to admit it.

America is cooked.

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Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they...

Would you laugh if Democrats blindly fell in line to follow a convicted felon held civilly liable of sexual assault after talking about how much they cared about law and order?

Does it bother you that your leader campaigned on staying out of wars, being a no wars president, and opposing regime change, now in the last week he’s flipped on all three of those?

This is why I only pop in here every few months. All you people in the MAGA cult here cannot under any circumstances say your guy was wrong. He will change his stance multiple times a day and you guys do too right there with him. All you guys ever have is insults. No evidence to back up your claims. Nothing. Every actual conservative policy falls flat on its face when applied to him. But he’s your leader anyway. Why?

Hudweiser9 wrote:
Dude, don't even start with the "law & order" BS... We could go on forever with a list about your "side". We are staying out of "wars"...

Dude, don't even start with the "law & order" BS... We could go on forever with a list about your "side". 

We are staying out of "wars"... Did you hear anyone declare war? If so, please point me to the site or article stating as such... President Trump is a no wars president, he is trying to end the Iran / Israel conflict and the Ukraine / Russia one as well. Give it time, he's only been the president for 6 months. And where did he specifically say he wanted regime change? Please point me to the actual article or site where he says that. You should go work for MSDNC with that spin... He's my (and yours, like it or not) President because he has the balls to do the difficult and uncomfortable things that no other president is recent times were willing or able to do. I don't agree with everything he does or says, but I believe he has the best interest of the majority of the American people in mind. Perfect, not hardly, but way better than anyone else lately. 

I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be...

I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be both.

Ah the ol “we haven’t declared war so we aren’t at war” argument. Nice one. Go tell all the families of dead soldiers from Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq their loved ones weren’t at war.

I’m giving him the “time” he set himself. He said he’d end both major conflicts within 24 hours of inauguration. Should I not hold him to that standard?

Go ahead and prove you disagree with him on some things then. Name them here please.

As far as when did he say anything about regime change, he posted this just minutes after his Secretary of Defense said we are not in the regime change business:

“It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"

You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient for you.... No one has declared war, whether you like it or not. No boots have been put on the ground as it was in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.That is a fact and is irrefutable.To bring those conflicts into this conversation about Trump, he wasn't the president back then, (and not even a politician yet) is weak. I don't / didn't agree with any of those conflicts. I like how you guys suffering from major TDS like to take everything he says in literal terms. You're so anxious to play the "see, I told you so" game that it's insufferable. I don't agree that he should be deporting illegal immigrants that have not committed any other crime other than crossing the border illegally first. I would rather ICE concentrate on the gang-bangers,rapists, murders criminals first, then follow up with the rest. If they are harboring the criminals, then take them at the same time. I don't agree with him wanting to fire the Fed chief. Let his term run out and move on. Nice try spinning the regime change thing... Did you even read what you posted? "But if the current Iranian regime is unable Make Iran Great Again, why wouldn't there be a regime change?" Where in that statement is he saying there has to be regime change? If that's you interpretation, good for you.

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Hudweiser9 wrote:
You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient...

You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient for you.... No one has declared war, whether you like it or not. No boots have been put on the ground as it was in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.That is a fact and is irrefutable.To bring those conflicts into this conversation about Trump, he wasn't the president back then, (and not even a politician yet) is weak. I don't / didn't agree with any of those conflicts. I like how you guys suffering from major TDS like to take everything he says in literal terms. You're so anxious to play the "see, I told you so" game that it's insufferable. I don't agree that he should be deporting illegal immigrants that have not committed any other crime other than crossing the border illegally first. I would rather ICE concentrate on the gang-bangers,rapists, murders criminals first, then follow up with the rest. If they are harboring the criminals, then take them at the same time. I don't agree with him wanting to fire the Fed chief. Let his term run out and move on. Nice try spinning the regime change thing... Did you even read what you posted? "But if the current Iranian regime is unable Make Iran Great Again, why wouldn't there be a regime change?" Where in that statement is he saying there has to be regime change? If that's you interpretation, good for you.

Let's be honest though.... you are clearly so far on the other side from @ThatOneMXGuy that you will spin shit just as hard the other direction to keep Daddy Donald looking like a hero.

 

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Hudweiser9 wrote:
Dude, don't even start with the "law & order" BS... We could go on forever with a list about your "side". We are staying out of "wars"...

Dude, don't even start with the "law & order" BS... We could go on forever with a list about your "side". 

We are staying out of "wars"... Did you hear anyone declare war? If so, please point me to the site or article stating as such... President Trump is a no wars president, he is trying to end the Iran / Israel conflict and the Ukraine / Russia one as well. Give it time, he's only been the president for 6 months. And where did he specifically say he wanted regime change? Please point me to the actual article or site where he says that. You should go work for MSDNC with that spin... He's my (and yours, like it or not) President because he has the balls to do the difficult and uncomfortable things that no other president is recent times were willing or able to do. I don't agree with everything he does or says, but I believe he has the best interest of the majority of the American people in mind. Perfect, not hardly, but way better than anyone else lately. 

I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be...

I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be both.

Ah the ol “we haven’t declared war so we aren’t at war” argument. Nice one. Go tell all the families of dead soldiers from Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq their loved ones weren’t at war.

I’m giving him the “time” he set himself. He said he’d end both major conflicts within 24 hours of inauguration. Should I not hold him to that standard?

Go ahead and prove you disagree with him on some things then. Name them here please.

As far as when did he say anything about regime change, he posted this just minutes after his Secretary of Defense said we are not in the regime change business:

“It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"

Hudweiser9 wrote:
You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient...

You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient for you.... No one has declared war, whether you like it or not. No boots have been put on the ground as it was in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.That is a fact and is irrefutable.To bring those conflicts into this conversation about Trump, he wasn't the president back then, (and not even a politician yet) is weak. I don't / didn't agree with any of those conflicts. I like how you guys suffering from major TDS like to take everything he says in literal terms. You're so anxious to play the "see, I told you so" game that it's insufferable. I don't agree that he should be deporting illegal immigrants that have not committed any other crime other than crossing the border illegally first. I would rather ICE concentrate on the gang-bangers,rapists, murders criminals first, then follow up with the rest. If they are harboring the criminals, then take them at the same time. I don't agree with him wanting to fire the Fed chief. Let his term run out and move on. Nice try spinning the regime change thing... Did you even read what you posted? "But if the current Iranian regime is unable Make Iran Great Again, why wouldn't there be a regime change?" Where in that statement is he saying there has to be regime change? If that's you interpretation, good for you.

My “side” is that I’m against that piece of shit because he’s truly the worst person to ever hold that office. You spin that as TDS. I see a dude who refused to accept an election result and sent a mob to attack police officers. Then he pardoned said rioters once he got back into office. He’s also stated the Comstitution should be suspended so he could stay in power. That’s all super alarming to me, and it has nothing to do with actual policies. We can discuss actual policies if you want to. He’s pretty weak there too. Holding very few actual conservative opinions. I disagreed with plenty Obama and Biden and Bush and Clinton did, but I never once felt like they were in any way a danger to our Republic. Nobody did. Harris, for all my disagreements with her, accepted her loss and oversaw the certification of her loss. Would your guy EVER do that?

Warfare is entirely different now. You know that right? Boots on the ground is not the main asset of our military.

Good to hear you have a few things you disagree with him on! That’s more than most on here. 

You asked where he said anything about regime change and I showed you where.

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I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be...

I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be both.

Ah the ol “we haven’t declared war so we aren’t at war” argument. Nice one. Go tell all the families of dead soldiers from Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq their loved ones weren’t at war.

I’m giving him the “time” he set himself. He said he’d end both major conflicts within 24 hours of inauguration. Should I not hold him to that standard?

Go ahead and prove you disagree with him on some things then. Name them here please.

As far as when did he say anything about regime change, he posted this just minutes after his Secretary of Defense said we are not in the regime change business:

“It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"

"I don’t have a side”. ~ Ono Hombre

Jeez, now you're just trying to insult everyone's intelligence in here. 

Go back through your previous posts and get us some quotes where you were bashing Smokin' Joe or the other fella B-Rock for some of the things they did, they both have been discussed in here "ad nauseam"..............but you said..........

Thank you

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Hudweiser9 wrote:
You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient...

You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient for you.... No one has declared war, whether you like it or not. No boots have been put on the ground as it was in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.That is a fact and is irrefutable.To bring those conflicts into this conversation about Trump, he wasn't the president back then, (and not even a politician yet) is weak. I don't / didn't agree with any of those conflicts. I like how you guys suffering from major TDS like to take everything he says in literal terms. You're so anxious to play the "see, I told you so" game that it's insufferable. I don't agree that he should be deporting illegal immigrants that have not committed any other crime other than crossing the border illegally first. I would rather ICE concentrate on the gang-bangers,rapists, murders criminals first, then follow up with the rest. If they are harboring the criminals, then take them at the same time. I don't agree with him wanting to fire the Fed chief. Let his term run out and move on. Nice try spinning the regime change thing... Did you even read what you posted? "But if the current Iranian regime is unable Make Iran Great Again, why wouldn't there be a regime change?" Where in that statement is he saying there has to be regime change? If that's you interpretation, good for you.

LungButter wrote:
Let's be honest though.... you are clearly so far on the other side from @ThatOneMXGuy that you will spin shit just as hard the other direction...

Let's be honest though.... you are clearly so far on the other side from @ThatOneMXGuy that you will spin shit just as hard the other direction to keep Daddy Donald looking like a hero.

 

Nope, but I'll take what he is doing over anyone else's administration by a long shot. What spin, care to elaborate? 

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Hudweiser9 wrote:
You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient...

You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient for you.... No one has declared war, whether you like it or not. No boots have been put on the ground as it was in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.That is a fact and is irrefutable.To bring those conflicts into this conversation about Trump, he wasn't the president back then, (and not even a politician yet) is weak. I don't / didn't agree with any of those conflicts. I like how you guys suffering from major TDS like to take everything he says in literal terms. You're so anxious to play the "see, I told you so" game that it's insufferable. I don't agree that he should be deporting illegal immigrants that have not committed any other crime other than crossing the border illegally first. I would rather ICE concentrate on the gang-bangers,rapists, murders criminals first, then follow up with the rest. If they are harboring the criminals, then take them at the same time. I don't agree with him wanting to fire the Fed chief. Let his term run out and move on. Nice try spinning the regime change thing... Did you even read what you posted? "But if the current Iranian regime is unable Make Iran Great Again, why wouldn't there be a regime change?" Where in that statement is he saying there has to be regime change? If that's you interpretation, good for you.

LungButter wrote:
Let's be honest though.... you are clearly so far on the other side from @ThatOneMXGuy that you will spin shit just as hard the other direction...

Let's be honest though.... you are clearly so far on the other side from @ThatOneMXGuy that you will spin shit just as hard the other direction to keep Daddy Donald looking like a hero.

 

Hudweiser9 wrote:

Nope, but I'll take what he is doing over anyone else's administration by a long shot. What spin, care to elaborate? 

You really think that the Iran situation is better today,  than before the prior agreement was abandoned?

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LungButter wrote:
Let's be honest though.... you are clearly so far on the other side from @ThatOneMXGuy that you will spin shit just as hard the other direction...

Let's be honest though.... you are clearly so far on the other side from @ThatOneMXGuy that you will spin shit just as hard the other direction to keep Daddy Donald looking like a hero.

 

Hudweiser9 wrote:

Nope, but I'll take what he is doing over anyone else's administration by a long shot. What spin, care to elaborate? 

ns503 wrote:

You really think that the Iran situation is better today,  than before the prior agreement was abandoned?

Agreement with Iran? Hahaha!

Here's a pallet of cash, don't do anything I wouldn't do, you rascal.

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Israel and Iran haven't made a statement, Trump saying there is a ceasefire doesn't make it so.

TeamGreen wrote:

Really?

That’s your response?

Bwaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaa

Congratulations, dude! That makes you our very own Jasmine Crockett. 😂

You Can Not Make This Shit Up (Because, you don’t have to).

TG, do you think this aged well?

So, the cease-fire that The Donald spoke of didn’t happen?

Some of you jus’ crack me the fuck up…

FINALLY we get a president that’s goin’ after the stupid shit that’s been allowed to exists for 46  fucking years…

And all you can do is bitch like the old cunts on The View. 

Sorry, not sorry, Bitches. 😂

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I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be...

I don’t have a “side”. Just asking a simple question. Do you follow your guy or do you believe in law and order? It can’t be both.

Ah the ol “we haven’t declared war so we aren’t at war” argument. Nice one. Go tell all the families of dead soldiers from Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq their loved ones weren’t at war.

I’m giving him the “time” he set himself. He said he’d end both major conflicts within 24 hours of inauguration. Should I not hold him to that standard?

Go ahead and prove you disagree with him on some things then. Name them here please.

As far as when did he say anything about regime change, he posted this just minutes after his Secretary of Defense said we are not in the regime change business:

“It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"

Hudweiser9 wrote:
You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient...

You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient for you.... No one has declared war, whether you like it or not. No boots have been put on the ground as it was in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.That is a fact and is irrefutable.To bring those conflicts into this conversation about Trump, he wasn't the president back then, (and not even a politician yet) is weak. I don't / didn't agree with any of those conflicts. I like how you guys suffering from major TDS like to take everything he says in literal terms. You're so anxious to play the "see, I told you so" game that it's insufferable. I don't agree that he should be deporting illegal immigrants that have not committed any other crime other than crossing the border illegally first. I would rather ICE concentrate on the gang-bangers,rapists, murders criminals first, then follow up with the rest. If they are harboring the criminals, then take them at the same time. I don't agree with him wanting to fire the Fed chief. Let his term run out and move on. Nice try spinning the regime change thing... Did you even read what you posted? "But if the current Iranian regime is unable Make Iran Great Again, why wouldn't there be a regime change?" Where in that statement is he saying there has to be regime change? If that's you interpretation, good for you.

My “side” is that I’m against that piece of shit because he’s truly the worst person to ever hold that office. You spin that as TDS...

My “side” is that I’m against that piece of shit because he’s truly the worst person to ever hold that office. You spin that as TDS. I see a dude who refused to accept an election result and sent a mob to attack police officers. Then he pardoned said rioters once he got back into office. He’s also stated the Comstitution should be suspended so he could stay in power. That’s all super alarming to me, and it has nothing to do with actual policies. We can discuss actual policies if you want to. He’s pretty weak there too. Holding very few actual conservative opinions. I disagreed with plenty Obama and Biden and Bush and Clinton did, but I never once felt like they were in any way a danger to our Republic. Nobody did. Harris, for all my disagreements with her, accepted her loss and oversaw the certification of her loss. Would your guy EVER do that?

Warfare is entirely different now. You know that right? Boots on the ground is not the main asset of our military.

Good to hear you have a few things you disagree with him on! That’s more than most on here. 

You asked where he said anything about regime change and I showed you where.

Well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree about the worst person to hold the office of the President. I would have to say Carter and Biden were the worst in recent memory. Didn't care for either of the Bushes either. LBJ could be thrown into that group as well. The whole J6 thing was not a good look for sure. I didn't and still don't approve of the way that went down. The left wants to scream about due process, where was the J6'ers due process? They sat in prison for years with any due process. And the whole J6 committee was a farce. So much to unpack there, I would have to start a new thread. President Trump didn't send any Mob, you know that. That's just being disingenuous.Read or listen to his actual words of the speech that day. At no time did he say go attack the capital. I think the pot finally boiled over and it got out of hand, with the help of the Feds, FBI informants,Democrats, etc....I still have my doubts about the 2020 election after all that has come to light since. Where did the 81 million voters of Biden go in the 2024 election? I'm not sure they were ever there in the first place, but that is water under the bridge. 

If you plan on occupying a country after winning a war, your going to have to have boots on the ground. What President Trump did was the same as Clinton, Bush (1 & 2), Obama... A single military strike. As for regime change, again that is your interpretation of his statement. I see it as him wanting to have the Iranian people make a regime change if they so desire. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.

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LungButter wrote:
Let's be honest though.... you are clearly so far on the other side from @ThatOneMXGuy that you will spin shit just as hard the other direction...

Let's be honest though.... you are clearly so far on the other side from @ThatOneMXGuy that you will spin shit just as hard the other direction to keep Daddy Donald looking like a hero.

 

Hudweiser9 wrote:

Nope, but I'll take what he is doing over anyone else's administration by a long shot. What spin, care to elaborate? 

ns503 wrote:

You really think that the Iran situation is better today,  than before the prior agreement was abandoned?

Not really, but that's the point... If Obama had done what President Trump just did, it more than likely would not have gotten to the point it is (was). He tried appeasement and failed miserably. All that "agreement" did was, as I mentioned in another post, was kick the can down the road for the next administration to deal with. He just didn't have the intestinal fortitude to do what needed to be done. He was more worried about the optics and how it would make him look to Americans and the world.

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Trump will spin this as the president that has ended the most wars ever.

Yesterday he declared that the 12 day war had ended.

Today, a new agreement will end the 13 day war

Tomorrow, he will enforce a cease fire on the brutal 14 day war.

I have voted for the guy 3 times because the other options were so, so bad.

But damn, he rambles on and on, and his speeches come off like he is letting an elementary school debate team write them.

Now we have twitter diplomacy. "Isreal, TURN THE PLANES AROUND! DO NOT DROP THOSE BOMBS!" Like he is watching American idol.

Are you guys really happy with how he has handled tariffs. How can any business plan when they change every day depending on what he ate and what kind of indigestion it gave him? Damn, that was some funky egg foo Yung last night. Chinese tariffs are now 150% 

How about immigration? Arresting and deporting the ones that we might actually need to keep here. The ones that would gladly follow the law and seek citizenship if only the deadbeat politicians on BOTH sides would actually work on solving the issue.

Why even talk about the "big, beautiful bill" what a crock of bullshit.

He has turned everything into a raging clusterfuck.

He is going to lose the moderate voters that voted for him because they could not stomach Harris.

It really could happen. All it would take is democrats actually putting up some candidates that do not sound like AOC wanna-bees.

The start of his second term has been a serious disappointment and I don't see it turning around.

Roast me. Tell me I can't make this shit up. Whatever.... Some of you guys really need to look at this objectively. 

He is not a savior. He is not a genius. He is not a man with scruples or ethics.

I hate that our political system has devolved into one that leaves a guy like this as the one that is picked as the best choice.

Sad

sickening

disgusting

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EVH4Ever wrote:

He’s got a point, Jazzie. Time to bone up on Moo Goo Gai Pan.

Moo Goo Gai Pan is an American dish...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moo_goo_gai_pan

G-man wrote:
Is there anything you will not argue about? You are in the top 3 as far as idiots who have nothing positive to add other than...

Is there anything you will not argue about? You are in the top 3 as far as idiots who have nothing positive to add other than trying to prove other posters wrong. Guys like you have ruined non-moto. Do you ever post anything on the moto side? I don't recall reading anything substantial from you on there.

 The hilarious part is you're not even from the USA yet you're constantly in political arguments regarding our country.

You really need to step away from the keyboard a few days and go ride a motorcycle, if you even have one.

You can Thank me later. 😎

I rode last Sunday.

Your country's politics has an effect on the rest of the world.

If you don't like my posts, nobody is forcing you to read them, you could skip them, or block them, or not respond,.

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Agreement with Iran? Hahaha!

Here's a pallet of cash, don't do anything I wouldn't do, you rascal.

Nothing to see there.  Barry was just making a donation to his muslim brethern's cause.

I mean,  doesnt everybody send literal pallets of cash to their favorite church?  

 

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JustMX wrote:
Trump will spin this as the president that has ended the most wars ever.Yesterday he declared that the 12 day war had ended.Today, a new agreement...

Trump will spin this as the president that has ended the most wars ever.

Yesterday he declared that the 12 day war had ended.

Today, a new agreement will end the 13 day war

Tomorrow, he will enforce a cease fire on the brutal 14 day war.

I have voted for the guy 3 times because the other options were so, so bad.

But damn, he rambles on and on, and his speeches come off like he is letting an elementary school debate team write them.

Now we have twitter diplomacy. "Isreal, TURN THE PLANES AROUND! DO NOT DROP THOSE BOMBS!" Like he is watching American idol.

Are you guys really happy with how he has handled tariffs. How can any business plan when they change every day depending on what he ate and what kind of indigestion it gave him? Damn, that was some funky egg foo Yung last night. Chinese tariffs are now 150% 

How about immigration? Arresting and deporting the ones that we might actually need to keep here. The ones that would gladly follow the law and seek citizenship if only the deadbeat politicians on BOTH sides would actually work on solving the issue.

Why even talk about the "big, beautiful bill" what a crock of bullshit.

He has turned everything into a raging clusterfuck.

He is going to lose the moderate voters that voted for him because they could not stomach Harris.

It really could happen. All it would take is democrats actually putting up some candidates that do not sound like AOC wanna-bees.

The start of his second term has been a serious disappointment and I don't see it turning around.

Roast me. Tell me I can't make this shit up. Whatever.... Some of you guys really need to look at this objectively. 

He is not a savior. He is not a genius. He is not a man with scruples or ethics.

I hate that our political system has devolved into one that leaves a guy like this as the one that is picked as the best choice.

Sad

sickening

disgusting

Whole lotta truth in that one folks.

 

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Hudweiser9 wrote:
You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient...

You don't have a "side", but continuously come on this board and bash President Trump, anyone who might support him or is conservative leaning. How convenient for you.... No one has declared war, whether you like it or not. No boots have been put on the ground as it was in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.That is a fact and is irrefutable.To bring those conflicts into this conversation about Trump, he wasn't the president back then, (and not even a politician yet) is weak. I don't / didn't agree with any of those conflicts. I like how you guys suffering from major TDS like to take everything he says in literal terms. You're so anxious to play the "see, I told you so" game that it's insufferable. I don't agree that he should be deporting illegal immigrants that have not committed any other crime other than crossing the border illegally first. I would rather ICE concentrate on the gang-bangers,rapists, murders criminals first, then follow up with the rest. If they are harboring the criminals, then take them at the same time. I don't agree with him wanting to fire the Fed chief. Let his term run out and move on. Nice try spinning the regime change thing... Did you even read what you posted? "But if the current Iranian regime is unable Make Iran Great Again, why wouldn't there be a regime change?" Where in that statement is he saying there has to be regime change? If that's you interpretation, good for you.

My “side” is that I’m against that piece of shit because he’s truly the worst person to ever hold that office. You spin that as TDS...

My “side” is that I’m against that piece of shit because he’s truly the worst person to ever hold that office. You spin that as TDS. I see a dude who refused to accept an election result and sent a mob to attack police officers. Then he pardoned said rioters once he got back into office. He’s also stated the Comstitution should be suspended so he could stay in power. That’s all super alarming to me, and it has nothing to do with actual policies. We can discuss actual policies if you want to. He’s pretty weak there too. Holding very few actual conservative opinions. I disagreed with plenty Obama and Biden and Bush and Clinton did, but I never once felt like they were in any way a danger to our Republic. Nobody did. Harris, for all my disagreements with her, accepted her loss and oversaw the certification of her loss. Would your guy EVER do that?

Warfare is entirely different now. You know that right? Boots on the ground is not the main asset of our military.

Good to hear you have a few things you disagree with him on! That’s more than most on here. 

You asked where he said anything about regime change and I showed you where.

Hudweiser9 wrote:
Well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree about the worst person to hold the office of the President. I would have to say...

Well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree about the worst person to hold the office of the President. I would have to say Carter and Biden were the worst in recent memory. Didn't care for either of the Bushes either. LBJ could be thrown into that group as well. The whole J6 thing was not a good look for sure. I didn't and still don't approve of the way that went down. The left wants to scream about due process, where was the J6'ers due process? They sat in prison for years with any due process. And the whole J6 committee was a farce. So much to unpack there, I would have to start a new thread. President Trump didn't send any Mob, you know that. That's just being disingenuous.Read or listen to his actual words of the speech that day. At no time did he say go attack the capital. I think the pot finally boiled over and it got out of hand, with the help of the Feds, FBI informants,Democrats, etc....I still have my doubts about the 2020 election after all that has come to light since. Where did the 81 million voters of Biden go in the 2024 election? I'm not sure they were ever there in the first place, but that is water under the bridge. 

If you plan on occupying a country after winning a war, your going to have to have boots on the ground. What President Trump did was the same as Clinton, Bush (1 & 2), Obama... A single military strike. As for regime change, again that is your interpretation of his statement. I see it as him wanting to have the Iranian people make a regime change if they so desire. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.

You can’t have a discussion about bad presidents without having Woodrow Wilson in the mix.

Carry on.

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My “side” is that I’m against that piece of shit because he’s truly the worst person to ever hold that office. You spin that as TDS...

My “side” is that I’m against that piece of shit because he’s truly the worst person to ever hold that office. You spin that as TDS. I see a dude who refused to accept an election result and sent a mob to attack police officers. Then he pardoned said rioters once he got back into office. He’s also stated the Comstitution should be suspended so he could stay in power. That’s all super alarming to me, and it has nothing to do with actual policies. We can discuss actual policies if you want to. He’s pretty weak there too. Holding very few actual conservative opinions. I disagreed with plenty Obama and Biden and Bush and Clinton did, but I never once felt like they were in any way a danger to our Republic. Nobody did. Harris, for all my disagreements with her, accepted her loss and oversaw the certification of her loss. Would your guy EVER do that?

Warfare is entirely different now. You know that right? Boots on the ground is not the main asset of our military.

Good to hear you have a few things you disagree with him on! That’s more than most on here. 

You asked where he said anything about regime change and I showed you where.

Hudweiser9 wrote:
Well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree about the worst person to hold the office of the President. I would have to say...

Well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree about the worst person to hold the office of the President. I would have to say Carter and Biden were the worst in recent memory. Didn't care for either of the Bushes either. LBJ could be thrown into that group as well. The whole J6 thing was not a good look for sure. I didn't and still don't approve of the way that went down. The left wants to scream about due process, where was the J6'ers due process? They sat in prison for years with any due process. And the whole J6 committee was a farce. So much to unpack there, I would have to start a new thread. President Trump didn't send any Mob, you know that. That's just being disingenuous.Read or listen to his actual words of the speech that day. At no time did he say go attack the capital. I think the pot finally boiled over and it got out of hand, with the help of the Feds, FBI informants,Democrats, etc....I still have my doubts about the 2020 election after all that has come to light since. Where did the 81 million voters of Biden go in the 2024 election? I'm not sure they were ever there in the first place, but that is water under the bridge. 

If you plan on occupying a country after winning a war, your going to have to have boots on the ground. What President Trump did was the same as Clinton, Bush (1 & 2), Obama... A single military strike. As for regime change, again that is your interpretation of his statement. I see it as him wanting to have the Iranian people make a regime change if they so desire. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.

olds cool wrote:

You can’t have a discussion about bad presidents without having Woodrow Wilson in the mix.

Carry on.

Damn Olds cool, you must be really old! 🤣

But you're right.

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JustMX wrote:
Trump will spin this as the president that has ended the most wars ever.Yesterday he declared that the 12 day war had ended.Today, a new agreement...

Trump will spin this as the president that has ended the most wars ever.

Yesterday he declared that the 12 day war had ended.

Today, a new agreement will end the 13 day war

Tomorrow, he will enforce a cease fire on the brutal 14 day war.

I have voted for the guy 3 times because the other options were so, so bad.

But damn, he rambles on and on, and his speeches come off like he is letting an elementary school debate team write them.

Now we have twitter diplomacy. "Isreal, TURN THE PLANES AROUND! DO NOT DROP THOSE BOMBS!" Like he is watching American idol.

Are you guys really happy with how he has handled tariffs. How can any business plan when they change every day depending on what he ate and what kind of indigestion it gave him? Damn, that was some funky egg foo Yung last night. Chinese tariffs are now 150% 

How about immigration? Arresting and deporting the ones that we might actually need to keep here. The ones that would gladly follow the law and seek citizenship if only the deadbeat politicians on BOTH sides would actually work on solving the issue.

Why even talk about the "big, beautiful bill" what a crock of bullshit.

He has turned everything into a raging clusterfuck.

He is going to lose the moderate voters that voted for him because they could not stomach Harris.

It really could happen. All it would take is democrats actually putting up some candidates that do not sound like AOC wanna-bees.

The start of his second term has been a serious disappointment and I don't see it turning around.

Roast me. Tell me I can't make this shit up. Whatever.... Some of you guys really need to look at this objectively. 

He is not a savior. He is not a genius. He is not a man with scruples or ethics.

I hate that our political system has devolved into one that leaves a guy like this as the one that is picked as the best choice.

Sad

sickening

disgusting

he showed you all of this during his first term yet you voted for him again

the cognitive dissonance within MAGA is wild

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TheGreat wrote:

he showed you all of this during his first term yet you voted for him again

the cognitive dissonance within MAGA is wild

Yet a million times better than Biden or Harris.

 

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I’m cautiously optimistic that the violence will slow at some point. If the US is going to be an arm of the Israeli military, I’d like to see us use our precision abilities aimed at the actual Hamas personnel that are responsible for the horrendous October 7 atrocities and cause less collateral damage. We currently provide around 15% of Israel’s military budget so we should have some serious influence on it. 

I’d also like to see us do more to uphold our commitments to the Budapest agreement, but it’s pretty clear that won’t happen no matter who is in the White House. 

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