Star Racing - turning everything on its head?

LouisianaMotocross wrote:

What makes you feel certain plessinger will be on star next year?

LouisianaMotocross wrote:

What makes you feel certain plessinger will be on star next year?

TeamGreen wrote:

Some of us are "hopeful'...including me.

LouisianaMotocross wrote:

What makes you feel certain plessinger will be on star next year?

TeamGreen wrote:

Some of us are "hopeful'...including me.

LouisianaMotocross wrote:

Oh. I thought there was more to it than being hopeful based off the thread.

yz133rider wrote:

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors. Meanwhile the other teams typically...

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors.

Meanwhile the other teams typically continue with the tradition of 1 elite guy and 1 support type rider.

If something happens to the top rider on those teams the whole operation effectively goes up in smoke.

The tractor trailers, engine and suspension testing, countless crew members, test tracks, all that is for nothing because the #2 rider really isn’t all of a sudden going to be in position to carry the team.

This model is seemingly outdated and I think star is going to quickly prove that.

With the number of injuries, sicknesses, dnfs, one bad race sometimes means the whole operation is for nothing when the team only has one real top rider. Seems foolish in a sport as risky as this one is.

Will see how star does in the coming seasons, but their 250 performance shows some serious potential ahead.

yz133rider wrote:

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors. Meanwhile the other teams typically...

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors.

Meanwhile the other teams typically continue with the tradition of 1 elite guy and 1 support type rider.

If something happens to the top rider on those teams the whole operation effectively goes up in smoke.

The tractor trailers, engine and suspension testing, countless crew members, test tracks, all that is for nothing because the #2 rider really isn’t all of a sudden going to be in position to carry the team.

This model is seemingly outdated and I think star is going to quickly prove that.

With the number of injuries, sicknesses, dnfs, one bad race sometimes means the whole operation is for nothing when the team only has one real top rider. Seems foolish in a sport as risky as this one is.

Will see how star does in the coming seasons, but their 250 performance shows some serious potential ahead.

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

I don't see Star starting a trend. Can't see Honda or Kawasaki funding four guys on their factory teams. I have to assume Star is receiving...

I don't see Star starting a trend. Can't see Honda or Kawasaki funding four guys on their factory teams. I have to assume Star is receiving a lot of support due to their recent success. The KTM group is already supporting 6 guys on 450s under factory tents.

yz133rider wrote:

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors. Meanwhile the other teams typically...

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors.

Meanwhile the other teams typically continue with the tradition of 1 elite guy and 1 support type rider.

If something happens to the top rider on those teams the whole operation effectively goes up in smoke.

The tractor trailers, engine and suspension testing, countless crew members, test tracks, all that is for nothing because the #2 rider really isn’t all of a sudden going to be in position to carry the team.

This model is seemingly outdated and I think star is going to quickly prove that.

With the number of injuries, sicknesses, dnfs, one bad race sometimes means the whole operation is for nothing when the team only has one real top rider. Seems foolish in a sport as risky as this one is.

Will see how star does in the coming seasons, but their 250 performance shows some serious potential ahead.

ZOSICK wrote:

Every team has a #2 rider for nothing. However, if the #2, #3 or #4 is not going to win, getting on the box is just...

Every team has a #2 rider for nothing. However, if the #2, #3 or #4 is not going to win, getting on the box is just as good to some extent. You really think because Star will be loaded that they won't have their "#2" rider. Every team has their #1 guy. Name a top team that doesn't. KTM/HSQ/Gas Gas are more stacked than Star will be. As is sits, they have the current and defending SX/MX titles holders. Star may win the MX title this year but Honda also has a chance. That being said, I don't see Star winning SX (450). That bike has flaws and it's known. Also, let's be honest, some of these teams can't afford to have more than one #1 rider. Usually, the #2 rider is a guy why can get on the box at a reduced price.

Frank Tuesday wrote:

So they'll have 2 "elite" riders and 2 "support" riders. They're doing what other teams do, but doubling the number of riders. Which is great. More...

So they'll have 2 "elite" riders and 2 "support" riders. They're doing what other teams do, but doubling the number of riders. Which is great. More top tier bike for more riders is always great. But let's be honest. It would be surprising if two of those riders were contending for 450 titles. For all the talk about how every year has the deepest field ever, there are maybe 7 or 8 riders who are real title contenders. The next 12 will get an occasional podium and maybe a win if everything falls in their favor on the day.

WoodsRacer wrote:

In a slightly different way, isn't KTM leading this trend, and Star (yamaha) is finally following suit? KTM through its various models and teams has Barcia...

In a slightly different way, isn't KTM leading this trend, and Star (yamaha) is finally following suit?

KTM through its various models and teams has Barcia, Osborn, Wilson, Anderson, Webb, and Musquin all on factory bikes. Pretty dang solid for 1 manufacturer.

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Aren’t Husky/GG/KTM different brands? Different sponsors?

midwestmoto wrote:

What is Star Yamaha? I googled them and didn't see a dealership or any product behind, "Star" Yamaha. Geico had funding from Geico, Husqvarna has Rockstar...

What is Star Yamaha? I googled them and didn't see a dealership or any product behind, "Star" Yamaha.

Geico had funding from Geico, Husqvarna has Rockstar, etc.

Is Star just a name the team decided to use for their team or is there a shop, product or store behind the Star name?

tek14 wrote:

Bobby Regan Bobby is the owner/dealer of Star. One of the few dealers who actually answers the phone and takes great pride in handling customer issues...

Bobby Regan
Bobby is the owner/dealer of Star. One of the few dealers who actually answers the phone and takes great pride in handling customer issues personally. Most weekends Bobby is traveling around the United States running his National Championship Motocrosss team, Star Racing.
Car dealership owner?
http://starracingyamaha.com/bobby-reagan
https://racerxonline.com/2020/12/21/250-words-the-biggest-team

yz133rider wrote:

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors. Meanwhile the other teams typically...

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors.

Meanwhile the other teams typically continue with the tradition of 1 elite guy and 1 support type rider.

If something happens to the top rider on those teams the whole operation effectively goes up in smoke.

The tractor trailers, engine and suspension testing, countless crew members, test tracks, all that is for nothing because the #2 rider really isn’t all of a sudden going to be in position to carry the team.

This model is seemingly outdated and I think star is going to quickly prove that.

With the number of injuries, sicknesses, dnfs, one bad race sometimes means the whole operation is for nothing when the team only has one real top rider. Seems foolish in a sport as risky as this one is.

Will see how star does in the coming seasons, but their 250 performance shows some serious potential ahead.

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Aren’t Husky/GG/KTM different brands? Different sponsors?

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

All owned by the same company. Yes, the teams have different sponsors, but sponsors don’t always cover all expenses when it comes to operating a factory...

All owned by the same company. Yes, the teams have different sponsors, but sponsors don’t always cover all expenses when it comes to operating a factory team. Either way, I wouldn’t expect them to collectively support more than 6 or 7 guys on 450s among the three brands.

yz133rider wrote:

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors. Meanwhile the other teams typically...

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors.

Meanwhile the other teams typically continue with the tradition of 1 elite guy and 1 support type rider.

If something happens to the top rider on those teams the whole operation effectively goes up in smoke.

The tractor trailers, engine and suspension testing, countless crew members, test tracks, all that is for nothing because the #2 rider really isn’t all of a sudden going to be in position to carry the team.

This model is seemingly outdated and I think star is going to quickly prove that.

With the number of injuries, sicknesses, dnfs, one bad race sometimes means the whole operation is for nothing when the team only has one real top rider. Seems foolish in a sport as risky as this one is.

Will see how star does in the coming seasons, but their 250 performance shows some serious potential ahead.

kiwifan wrote:

it helps when they have the big financial backing they have, other teams do not...isnt it that simple?

yz133rider wrote:

You mean to tell me Honda and Kawasaki don’t have the money that star Yamaha does? I just think they are so stuck in their ways...

You mean to tell me Honda and Kawasaki don’t have the money that star Yamaha does? I just think they are so stuck in their ways they’ll never try anything outside of the usual.

bents wrote:

Could be that Yamaha simply got sick of the KTM group winning everything. Good for them.

yz133rider wrote:

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors. Meanwhile the other teams typically...

Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors.

Meanwhile the other teams typically continue with the tradition of 1 elite guy and 1 support type rider.

If something happens to the top rider on those teams the whole operation effectively goes up in smoke.

The tractor trailers, engine and suspension testing, countless crew members, test tracks, all that is for nothing because the #2 rider really isn’t all of a sudden going to be in position to carry the team.

This model is seemingly outdated and I think star is going to quickly prove that.

With the number of injuries, sicknesses, dnfs, one bad race sometimes means the whole operation is for nothing when the team only has one real top rider. Seems foolish in a sport as risky as this one is.

Will see how star does in the coming seasons, but their 250 performance shows some serious potential ahead.

kiwifan wrote:

it helps when they have the big financial backing they have, other teams do not...isnt it that simple?

yz133rider wrote:

You mean to tell me Honda and Kawasaki don’t have the money that star Yamaha does? I just think they are so stuck in their ways...

You mean to tell me Honda and Kawasaki don’t have the money that star Yamaha does? I just think they are so stuck in their ways they’ll never try anything outside of the usual.