Savatgy's Bike Problem - Chain?

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6/2/2018 5:22 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/2/2018 5:23 PM

Anyone hear anything about what happened to his bike in the first moto? It sure looked like a chain. He looked down on that side after he crested that little hill and then the bike coasted very easily for quite a ways. If the motor let go, you'd think it would have shown some signs like smoke or locking up at some point. I would also think he would have at least tried to kick it over but he knew for some reason that it was a lost cause before he even stopped rolling.

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6/2/2018 5:33 PM

Engine.

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6/2/2018 5:35 PM

*Electrical

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6/2/2018 5:45 PM

GuyB wrote:

Engine.

Engine chain? ?

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6/2/2018 6:04 PM

GuyB wrote:

Engine.

GuyB, thank you so much for the insight! Great to know it was his engine. It wasn’t one of the thousands of moving parts inside of it, just the engine in general! Wow!

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6/2/2018 6:11 PM

craigathan404 wrote:

GuyB, thank you so much for the insight! Great to know it was his engine. It wasn’t one of the thousands of moving parts ...more

Do you even lift, bro?

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6/2/2018 6:15 PM

Turbo failure!

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6/2/2018 6:17 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/2/2018 6:18 PM

GuyB wrote:

Engine.

craigathan404 wrote:

GuyB, thank you so much for the insight! Great to know it was his engine. It wasn’t one of the thousands of moving parts ...more

I’m sure that entire engine came apart immediately so they knew the exact part that failed so they could tell you...you know, instead of taking that short turn around time to get Savatgy’s bike a fresh engine back and into staging for Moto 2...ohh wait, they did take the roughly 35 mins or so they had to focus on getting Savatgy’s bike back together, the other bikes prepped and back to the line...not tear down the engine. You know, logic and such.

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6/2/2018 6:27 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/2/2018 6:28 PM

For some people being a dick is merely a hobby. For others, a serious profession.

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6/2/2018 6:41 PM

GuyB wrote:

Engine.

craigathan404 wrote:

GuyB, thank you so much for the insight! Great to know it was his engine. It wasn’t one of the thousands of moving parts ...more

Let’s see. The original poster suggests it was a chain. I corrected him on that.

When I talked to someone from PC, I asked if it was fuel (because it was late in the moto) or engine. They said engine, when they could have taken the easy route and said fuel. I’m sorry that answer wasn’t adequate for you.

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6/2/2018 6:44 PM

GuyB wrote:

Engine.

craigathan404 wrote:

GuyB, thank you so much for the insight! Great to know it was his engine. It wasn’t one of the thousands of moving parts ...more

ML512 wrote:

I’m sure that entire engine came apart immediately so they knew the exact part that failed so they could tell you...you know, ...more

I have no idea on this....those guys can do a complete motor swap in 35 mins or so? Takes me that long to clean a filter

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6/2/2018 7:19 PM

Seems like pc has the most engine failures of any teams

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6/2/2018 7:23 PM

GuyB wrote:

Engine.

craigathan404 wrote:

GuyB, thank you so much for the insight! Great to know it was his engine. It wasn’t one of the thousands of moving parts ...more

Sorry, they left their x-ray glasses back at the shop so no official word. Does it matter if it dropped a valve, or the rod broke, the main bearing came apart or thenpsiton cracked? Either way the engine catastrophicly failed, and that's what ended his race..

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6/2/2018 7:26 PM

logan_140 wrote:

Seems like pc has the most engine failures of any teams

yeah i think they have to push the limits to keep up on HP, i dont think kawi 250'fs have the best base power in compaison to star/ktm bikes.

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6/2/2018 7:26 PM

logan_140 wrote:

Seems like pc has the most engine failures of any teams

Maybe they are pushing the envelope more or doing more r and d in real time.

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6/2/2018 7:37 PM

Wow!! Why be a decent human being when it's so easy to be a total dick, right?
Thanks for all you do GuyB! Most of us appreciate the info.

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6/2/2018 8:10 PM

craigathan404 wrote:

GuyB, thank you so much for the insight! Great to know it was his engine. It wasn’t one of the thousands of moving parts ...more

ML512 wrote:

I’m sure that entire engine came apart immediately so they knew the exact part that failed so they could tell you...you know, ...more

KennyT wrote:

I have no idea on this....those guys can do a complete motor swap in 35 mins or so? Takes me that long to clean a filter

We watched Osborne's motor swap at Millville last year. That bike was washed, motor out and new one in the frame.before the 450 gate even dropped. It was pretty quick.

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6/2/2018 8:17 PM

logan_140 wrote:

Seems like pc has the most engine failures of any teams

Excaliburbmx wrote:

Maybe they are pushing the envelope more or doing more r and d in real time.

Either way it's not a good look. Gotta make some potential clients second guess sending their engines to them

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6/2/2018 8:20 PM

I thought it might have been chain as there was no smoke? Like none, blue, white, black? Just dead. Maybe it really was electrical this time!

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6/2/2018 8:47 PM

Coasted to a stop looking down at chain side.
No smoke or evidence of a piston failure or lock up.
Word from the team it was an engine failure.
An Oregano on the sideline eating a bag of dicks.

ermm sounds like a transmission failure with a side of cock in mouth to me

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6/2/2018 9:32 PM

logan_140 wrote:

Seems like pc has the most engine failures of any teams

Excaliburbmx wrote:

Maybe they are pushing the envelope more or doing more r and d in real time.

chump6784 wrote:

Either way it's not a good look. Gotta make some potential clients second guess sending their engines to them

Average PC client isn't going to get anything close to what Savatgy has anyway. The average customer would bad mouth them out of business if they were sent the ticking time bomb engine package that these guys are riding. Local Joe isn't going to be willing to do a total engine rebuild every 4 hours to keep it running. Chicken Licks Raceway would have rods, pistons, and valves scattered all over the property.

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6/2/2018 9:35 PM

Mitch must be so pissed!

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6/2/2018 9:47 PM

logan_140 wrote:

Seems like pc has the most engine failures of any teams

Sure does, all the way back to the days of 125s. Southwick is especially harsh.

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6/2/2018 9:53 PM

Does anyone know why they have to swap motors?
Why don't they have a second race bike, fully set up ready to fuel up & go?

Deal with the blown one on Monday morning..?

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6/2/2018 9:58 PM

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

Does anyone know why they have to swap motors?
Why don't they have a second race bike, fully set up ready to fuel up & go? ...more

You're only allowed to tech one bike/frame. So you have to continue with that bike and swap the engine.

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6/2/2018 10:13 PM

What if the frame breaks?

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6/3/2018 12:13 AM

Crush wrote:

I thought it might have been chain as there was no smoke? Like none, blue, white, black? Just dead. Maybe it really was ...more

I was thinking the same thing when I was watching.

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6/3/2018 12:15 AM

logan_140 wrote:

Seems like pc has the most engine failures of any teams

The titles on their door don't lie.

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6/3/2018 12:36 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/3/2018 12:37 AM

Underground wrote:

Coasted to a stop looking down at chain side.
No smoke or evidence of a piston failure or lock up.
Word from the team it was ...more

Def an engine failure, watch half a second before he lands. That front end drops hard off the step off.

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6/3/2018 1:51 AM

Underground wrote:

Coasted to a stop looking down at chain side.
No smoke or evidence of a piston failure or lock up.
Word from the team it was ...more

Jeff alessi wrote:

Def an engine failure, watch half a second before he lands. That front end drops hard off the step off.

Is it likely the connecting rod snapped? I didn't see his rear wheel lock up so something inside was still at least half working haha. Damn shame he rode his heart out!

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