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6/20/2014 9:53am
TripleFive wrote:
I am a JS7 fan regardless of what happened.
bdlcks wrote:
TripleFive I've adopted your profile pic temporarily in support hope you don't mind
No problem.

Unless you're super attached to orange and blue, would you mind selecting a different color scheme?






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6/20/2014 10:04am
TripleFive wrote:
No problem. Unless you're super attached to orange and blue, would you mind selecting a different color scheme? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57450/s1200_JS7YW.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57452/s1200_JS7YB.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57453/s1200_JS7Y.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57454/s1200_JS7R.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57455/s1200_JS7YBGR.jpg[/img]
No problem.

Unless you're super attached to orange and blue, would you mind selecting a different color scheme?






Whoa, I think I'm tripping on adderall or something right now man. I can taste the colors.
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6/20/2014 10:05am Edited Date/Time 6/20/2014 10:06am
Gigantic Stewart fan...Always will be....Fuck all the shit talkers



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Bubba has my support!!!

One of the best ever to swing a leg over a dirt cycle. I have seen him from his mini bike days to seeing him hit so hard in Vegas on his 125 that you could here the thump on the floor of Sam Boyd- he is one bad MF'er.






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6/20/2014 10:46am
Well if this was supposed to be a PED then Stewart should of dominated the entire the SX season. He didn't. He's prescribed something that he takes as prescribed. How the hell did that give him an edge?
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6/20/2014 10:47am Edited Date/Time 6/20/2014 10:47am
FastEddy wrote:
I like James and he is amazing to watch ride/race. The most exciting guy on 2 wheels IMO. But I do have some questions regarding this...
I like James and he is amazing to watch ride/race.
The most exciting guy on 2 wheels IMO.
But I do have some questions regarding this PR...

The medication in question is and has been prescribed to Stewart by his physician to treat a long-term condition.

Long term condition they say. Ok then,people have long term conditions - it's not rare..
I believe he's passed FIM drug testing standards in the past for the MXoN (if I'm not mistaken).
Makes me wonder how long has he been treating this so-called condition, with this particular banned med in question?
Or is it something that was recently added to the banned list - that he just kept taking anyway?

Adderall has been kicked around for a few days now,but nothing confirmed.
How long has it been on the banned WADA list for (exactly how many years)?

One would think if he was taking it he would know the test would come back positive.
That's a no brainer.

Sure would like to hear the full story on all this,some day.

Good luck to James & Suzuki.

This whole thing is still sorta strange to me -without the detailed full true story.
Long time condition, not long time prescription
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6/20/2014 10:53am
Kyle978 wrote:
I'm very critical of Raining Yellow, but I support this post and the message. I wish there was more common sense around here.
X3; until the smoke clears, I think that he deserves the benefit of the doubt and doesn't deserve all the hate and bullshit that's spewed by some of the "fans" out there. I'm not a JS7 fanboy but like many of the folks that post on here, have a lot of respect for the guys that qualify for a Supercross Race or an Outdoor National, whether they finish first or twenty-first.
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6/20/2014 11:10am Edited Date/Time 6/20/2014 11:14am
FastEddy wrote:
I like James and he is amazing to watch ride/race. The most exciting guy on 2 wheels IMO. But I do have some questions regarding this...
I like James and he is amazing to watch ride/race.
The most exciting guy on 2 wheels IMO.
But I do have some questions regarding this PR...

The medication in question is and has been prescribed to Stewart by his physician to treat a long-term condition.

Long term condition they say. Ok then,people have long term conditions - it's not rare..
I believe he's passed FIM drug testing standards in the past for the MXoN (if I'm not mistaken).
Makes me wonder how long has he been treating this so-called condition, with this particular banned med in question?
Or is it something that was recently added to the banned list - that he just kept taking anyway?

Adderall has been kicked around for a few days now,but nothing confirmed.
How long has it been on the banned WADA list for (exactly how many years)?

One would think if he was taking it he would know the test would come back positive.
That's a no brainer.

Sure would like to hear the full story on all this,some day.

Good luck to James & Suzuki.

This whole thing is still sorta strange to me -without the detailed full true story.
hasko158 wrote:
Long time condition, not long time prescription
No shit?

"Makes me wonder how long has he been treating this so-called condition, with this particular banned med in question?"

How long exactly (3 years? 6 months?)has he had the prescription/been taking it for?
That was one of my questions.
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6/20/2014 11:51am
FastEddy wrote:
No shit? [i]"Makes me wonder [b]how long[/b] has he been treating this so-called condition, [b]with this particular banned med in question[/b]?"[/i] How long [b]exactly [/b](3 years...
No shit?

"Makes me wonder how long has he been treating this so-called condition, with this particular banned med in question?"

How long exactly (3 years? 6 months?)has he had the prescription/been taking it for?
That was one of my questions.
Who gives a shit if it started the week before seattle.

If the dude has a condition then why would anyone be against him taking something to help him?

If he had a TUE everyone found out he was taking adderall, would people still say its an unfair advantage???

Of course they would. Thats how vital works.

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6/20/2014 12:11pm
IceMan446 wrote:
Who gives a shit if it started the week before seattle. If the dude has a condition then why would anyone be against him taking something...
Who gives a shit if it started the week before seattle.

If the dude has a condition then why would anyone be against him taking something to help him?

If he had a TUE everyone found out he was taking adderall, would people still say its an unfair advantage???

Of course they would. Thats how vital works.

fact of the matter that isn't how it happened, so in essence your post means absolutely nothing.

just wanted to point that out.

carry on, brah
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6/20/2014 12:14pm
Free JLa. . . I mean James!
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peelout wrote:
fact of the matter that isn't how it happened, so in essence your post means absolutely nothing.

just wanted to point that out.

carry on, brah
I get it happened. The rules are the rules.

Im saying for the people who think Adderall is a PED regardless, would the TUE even have mattered?

I dont think so. They would still think its an unfair advantage.
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6/20/2014 12:18pm
peelout wrote:
fact of the matter that isn't how it happened, so in essence your post means absolutely nothing.

just wanted to point that out.

carry on, brah
IceMan446 wrote:
I get it happened. The rules are the rules. Im saying for the people who think Adderall is a PED regardless, would the TUE even have...
I get it happened. The rules are the rules.

Im saying for the people who think Adderall is a PED regardless, would the TUE even have mattered?

I dont think so. They would still think its an unfair advantage.
Well, how much Adderall are we talking here in hypothetical world? Therapeutic levels, or higher?
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6/20/2014 12:20pm Edited Date/Time 6/20/2014 12:21pm
peelout wrote:
fact of the matter that isn't how it happened, so in essence your post means absolutely nothing.

just wanted to point that out.

carry on, brah
IceMan446 wrote:
I get it happened. The rules are the rules. Im saying for the people who think Adderall is a PED regardless, would the TUE even have...
I get it happened. The rules are the rules.

Im saying for the people who think Adderall is a PED regardless, would the TUE even have mattered?

I dont think so. They would still think its an unfair advantage.
GrapeApe wrote:
Well, how much Adderall are we talking here in hypothetical world? Therapeutic levels, or higher?
i'm guessing enough that "DickButt" would be a regular figure on the broadcast team

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6/20/2014 12:23pm
TripleFive wrote:
No problem. Unless you're super attached to orange and blue, would you mind selecting a different color scheme? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57450/s1200_JS7YW.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57452/s1200_JS7YB.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57453/s1200_JS7Y.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57454/s1200_JS7R.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/20/57455/s1200_JS7YBGR.jpg[/img]
No problem.

Unless you're super attached to orange and blue, would you mind selecting a different color scheme?






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6/20/2014 12:27pm
IceMan446 wrote:
I get it happened. The rules are the rules. Im saying for the people who think Adderall is a PED regardless, would the TUE even have...
I get it happened. The rules are the rules.

Im saying for the people who think Adderall is a PED regardless, would the TUE even have mattered?

I dont think so. They would still think its an unfair advantage.
GrapeApe wrote:
Well, how much Adderall are we talking here in hypothetical world? Therapeutic levels, or higher?
peelout wrote:
i'm guessing enough that "DickButt" would be a regular figure on the broadcast team [img]https://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/037/6/6/dickbutt_by_tlmber-d75eelq.jpg[/img]
i'm guessing enough that "DickButt" would be a regular figure on the broadcast team

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Great post peelout. This testing nonsense was nothing but a ploy to mske mx seems "legitimate", as if anybody but we the fans give a shit...
Great post peelout. This testing nonsense was nothing but a ploy to mske mx seems "legitimate", as if anybody but we the fans give a shit about this sport. We caught a dirty rider! Now what? Hey if we're lucky itll make 'Sportcenter'! Thatll prove to the public (who never heard of mx/sx and couldn't give a shit otherwise) that we are a real sport! Great job, whoever asked for this stupid testing nonsense! Now lets get down to the brass tacks of how we are going to explain away the results as a "mistake" so that one of our cash cows doesnt have to be punished for failing the drug test. The test you guys running the show asked for. How does it feel to be a "real" sport, guys?
Nicely said. It's how I see it also, they probably make $ off it too one way or the other?! It's sad when you think about it, only the promoter is coming out ahead with the added publicity and what all that turns into monetarly, every one else is disposable when something like this happens.
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I support JS7 cause I love his riding style and talent, but I don't support cheating. Why didn't he get a TUE????????
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6/20/2014 12:42pm
Guys the fans of motorcross and supercross need to stand up for js7 these riders risk everything to race as hard as they can every weekend for us to watch and they deserve our respect. If he is not aloud to race I will be canceling the recording of allraces of my tv and will not attend any other races he is a legend in our sport and we can not lethim end on this.
6/20/2014 12:46pm Edited Date/Time 6/20/2014 12:47pm
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Get it, Raining Yellow, pissing in the sample bottles is what got him found out , lol ................................

And I see Peelout is still in denial..........., Or .. is your real name Ben Johnson, Lance Armstrong...........
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6/20/2014 12:54pm Edited Date/Time 6/20/2014 1:21pm
IceMan446 wrote:
Who gives a shit if it started the week before seattle. If the dude has a condition then why would anyone be against him taking something...
Who gives a shit if it started the week before seattle.

If the dude has a condition then why would anyone be against him taking something to help him?

If he had a TUE everyone found out he was taking adderall, would people still say its an unfair advantage???

Of course they would. Thats how vital works.

Why didn't he get a TUE?
Was it because he'd just started taking it (didn't know he needed to get a TUE) ?
It makes no sense ,why he would risk it if he knew.
That is what I don't understand.

As for being against him for taking it for a disorder....that I'm not.
And it still doesn't answer my question. lol


Antonio Cairoli used an Albuterol Inhaler after each of his rides at the Lakewood MXoN - seen it with my own eyes.
Nobody,not even Team USA fans questioned it as an unfair advantage or cried about it,even at that elevation that I can remember - because they knew he had asthma.
I'd assume he had a TUE - FIM MXoN has testing and does every year.
So to assume that fans are going to cry unfair about a rider because he got a TUE - I don't buy that.
And even as big as the FIM vs AMA stuff is on here around the MXoN time - that's not how Vital was.
So I would disagree.




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Good grief. I think I am done with MX. Stewart was pretty much the only excitement. Watching the rv2 domination is boring.
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Just wanted to show more JS7 support.

Who can forget this video

Bubba is arguably one of the best ever on a 2T .


Bubba and RC-Some of the best moto action in the last decade


Bubba could even make this bike lay flat

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IceMan446 wrote:
Who gives a shit if it started the week before seattle. If the dude has a condition then why would anyone be against him taking something...
Who gives a shit if it started the week before seattle.

If the dude has a condition then why would anyone be against him taking something to help him?

If he had a TUE everyone found out he was taking adderall, would people still say its an unfair advantage???

Of course they would. Thats how vital works.

FastEddy wrote:
Why didn't he get a TUE? Was it because he'd just started taking it (didn't know he needed to get a TUE) ? It makes no...
Why didn't he get a TUE?
Was it because he'd just started taking it (didn't know he needed to get a TUE) ?
It makes no sense ,why he would risk it if he knew.
That is what I don't understand.

As for being against him for taking it for a disorder....that I'm not.
And it still doesn't answer my question. lol


Antonio Cairoli used an Albuterol Inhaler after each of his rides at the Lakewood MXoN - seen it with my own eyes.
Nobody,not even Team USA fans questioned it as an unfair advantage or cried about it,even at that elevation that I can remember - because they knew he had asthma.
I'd assume he had a TUE - FIM MXoN has testing and does every year.
So to assume that fans are going to cry unfair about a rider because he got a TUE - I don't buy that.
And even as big as the FIM vs AMA stuff is on here around the MXoN time - that's not how Vital was.
So I would disagree.




Regarding Cairoli & Albuterol(salbutamol);

Clinical studies show no compelling evidence that salbutamol and other β2-agonists can increase performance in healthy athletes.[27] In spite of this, salbutamol required "a declaration of Use in accordance with the International Standard for Therapeutic Use Exemptions" under the 2010 WADA prohibited list. This requirement was relaxed when the 2011 list was published to permit the use of "salbutamol (maximum 1600 micrograms over 24 hours) and salmeterol when taken by inhalation in accordance with the manufacturers’ recommended therapeutic regimen." [28][29]

According to two small and limited studies, performed on eight and 16 subjects, respectively, salbutamol increases the performance even for a person without asthma.[30][31][32]

Another study contradicts the above findings, however. The double blind, randomised test conducted on 12 non-asthmatic athletes concluded that salbutamol had a negligible effect on endurance performance. Nevertheless, the study also showed that the drug's bronchodilating effect may have improved respiratory adaptation at the beginning of exercise.[33]


So Cairoli having an unfair advantage is a tad overrated. If you want to whine about that on an asthma patient.. kinda silly isn't it?


Anyways, this is a JS7 support thread. I'll support him if he's got a valid subscription for whatever he's tested positive for.

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I'm in support of the athletes (riders) who passed their drug tests.
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This whole things is a circus. I feel incredibly bad for what James is going through. This thread is for positive support,keep it that way.
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6/21/2014 12:20pm Edited Date/Time 6/21/2014 12:28pm
Lamecake wrote:
Regarding Cairoli & Albuterol(salbutamol); Clinical studies show no compelling evidence that salbutamol and other β2-agonists can increase performance in healthy athletes.[27] In spite of this, salbutamol...
Regarding Cairoli & Albuterol(salbutamol);

Clinical studies show no compelling evidence that salbutamol and other β2-agonists can increase performance in healthy athletes.[27] In spite of this, salbutamol required "a declaration of Use in accordance with the International Standard for Therapeutic Use Exemptions" under the 2010 WADA prohibited list. This requirement was relaxed when the 2011 list was published to permit the use of "salbutamol (maximum 1600 micrograms over 24 hours) and salmeterol when taken by inhalation in accordance with the manufacturers’ recommended therapeutic regimen." [28][29]

According to two small and limited studies, performed on eight and 16 subjects, respectively, salbutamol increases the performance even for a person without asthma.[30][31][32]

Another study contradicts the above findings, however. The double blind, randomised test conducted on 12 non-asthmatic athletes concluded that salbutamol had a negligible effect on endurance performance. Nevertheless, the study also showed that the drug's bronchodilating effect may have improved respiratory adaptation at the beginning of exercise.[33]


So Cairoli having an unfair advantage is a tad overrated. If you want to whine about that on an asthma patient.. kinda silly isn't it?


Anyways, this is a JS7 support thread. I'll support him if he's got a valid subscription for whatever he's tested positive for.

" If you want to whine about that on an asthma patient.. kinda silly isn't it?"

I wasn't whining about AC & his inhaler.
I was simply making a point that nobody said shit because he had asthma....
Nobody should've said shit like it was an unfair advantage - because he has asthma.
And in fact nobody did including myself. You could tell seeing him after his rides,that he needed it....he was suffering.
I use an Albuterol inhaler and understand it....
I've used one for years.
And yes at higher elevations consistent with Lakewood it can be hell for someone with asthma,thin air,airways narrowing.
Especially with the dust if sinuses & mucous start going all crazy it really messes up the airways.
However, for the average guy that doesn't need it and your airways start to narrow because of the thin air/elevation & dust/sinuses acting up it can also open them up a little.Granted that it doesnt give them bronchial spasms (some people do get them from ).

So learn to read - because taking the time to preach to Choir is kinda silly isn't it ?


As for James....if he needed it & had was taking it under DR.s supervision and it didnt give him an advantage.
It should be the same.
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6/21/2014 12:23pm
yzjs7 wrote:
This whole things is a circus. I feel incredibly bad for what James is going through. This thread is for positive support,keep it that way.
I don't get it. We don't even know the whole story yet...

so what is it that you're supporting???

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