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That's because they are all on the list, even Daddy Donald. If he wasn't, he woulda put that shit out there.

Yep. In recent years the riders and fans were starting to become very vocal about how awesome the track was and how it was one of the best tracks on the circuit. People were pumped that it was moved earlier in the year this year so that way the title wasnt wrapped up by the time they got there. Watching the race yesterday it was like watching a whole new track Ive never seen before. I didnt recognize it at all. I actually found myself fast forwarding through parts of the races because the action just died out in large...

“This track is awesome, it would be a great track for MXoN!” “”Awesome! Let’s completely change the track for the MXoN!”

Why are they trying to ruin the track? It’s only been getting worse.

04 oem cr125 grips. I had elbow surgery cut on my funny bone 2 3/4 hrs ruined 2 fingers threw hand into wrist. Nerve damage in shoulder , all disk in neck ruptured that causes arm & finger numb problems . I could go on for hrs on injuries. The grips are super tacky & padded well . Way better grips than 25 Hondas or anything out there.

Yesterday was a good day for Prado, he fought til the moto end. Battling with Justin Cooper is nothing to be ashamed of. Guys that thought he would come here and beat Jett / Chase are just delusional. Top 5s by end of the year this year isn’t that bad.

They completely destroyed the track. They removed the most iconic jumps.

My first thought watching the broadcast yesterday was "I have never seen this track before". I watched some of the old vids in this thread and it was clear they completely neutered the track.

Odd they'd make more VIP room in a boring section. It would make more sense to build something where they could watch a cool section.

I’m still pissed they got rid of the MASSIVE uphill triple that used to be directly next to godzilla. When herlings raced at ironman that was when the track was at its best and imo was the best track on the entire circuit. The way they used to launch up godzilla, jump back down, then turn and HUCK the triple right back up was fucking aweseeeesome. The track is still ok but its kind of simple now and its not as good as it used to be. Its really unfortunate because this track was the epitome of big dick huge...

They screwed it up. Not only did they butcher it but they added a bunch of wet mulch. It looks as snotty as Lake Elsinore. Who approved this nonsense?

I was at MXoN 2022. There were guys from small country's that had really no business being on that track out there with Tomac and Prado. There are forum members that are faster then some of the guys these country's are sending over for this race. There was a guy jumping half way on the back table before the banked corner. And the run up to the back triple, oh my god, the speed discrepancy was INSANE. IF you guys saw this in person I think you might have a bit more of an understanding. They dont air the eliminations...

“Alright guys we locked in the MXDN, time for one lined switch backs, wet mulch, dark trail riding, and take out the cool jumps” Tell me this doesn’t sound like an old club “leadership” making decisions lol

I thought the original first turn that went up and around the trees was the coolest thing ever

that was the gayest fucking track on the schedule, holy shit bro really bad.

Still better than most tracks but not as good as used to be. Also that tree on the outside of that corner looks ripe for the pickings…

Ironman is usually one of my favourite tracks to watch. Pretty shocking how much less enjoyable it is this year with the changes. What a shame

They have that entire tree line to the left that they could "cut" into and make amazing grandstands and VIP section on that side of the track. It would cost money to remove the timber, but you could utilize it for structures and make it badass over on that side. Then put back the rightful jumps and those VIPs get cool air time all day long

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