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So Gebben going from Fantic MXGP team to shutting down? Will Vlaanderen be without a ride?

After my talks with a few people now it is clear that Stark has not been making deliveries based upon order date or payments. Some people are getting the bikes sooner than others who ordered or paid prior. My guess is that most of this is due to Stark wanting to help shops sell bikes and get into the business. So, because I requested to have my bike shipped directly to my house, I got put back on the list even though I paid in late June. One shop I spoke to said they did not even sign a deal...

Now you are just trolling. It's called fiscal and supply chain 101 responsibility. Don't promise what you can't deliver, all they are doing is taking your money and telling you to eat your expectations.

Don't plan on buying one even if I was interested I would not go first year on a start up company I don't even do that with established manufacturers. Their business practices are a little off-putting long delays and apparently little communication with paying customers. Doesn't seem like they can get bikes off the assembly line yet not sure how long it will be until the profitable. Hope you enjoy your bike if you ever get it and I hope they're around long enough for you to get your spare parts nothing wrong with having another manufacturer in this sport👍

Hey, now I have my own vitalmx downvote person. Must be someone from Stark who can't handle a little criticism on their business model. Build a bike, sell a bike, don't make people pay for something that will be coming "soon" and bank their money until you deliver. Pretty simple really.

Nope, just been around long enough to see the forest for the trees. I hope they make it and do well, by all accounts the bike is everything they said it is. But asking for full payment then saying we will be in touch when it's ready for delivery and going a little radio silent is shady. My neighbor paid for his and was told maybe 6-12 weeks, no guarantees on that though. I just get angry at businesses that talk and talk but don't deliver as promised. If I told my boss, hey that episode of the show you...

Because they are kicking a can down the road. I love the idea and concept of the bike, but they are blowing smoke and mirrors on the delivery of bikes paid in full. They don't have the resources to fulfill what has been ordered and paid for without piggybacking the costs they have already incurred into more orders.

So they're asking for money up front before they even manufacture your bike that doesn't sound like a company that's going to be around for a long time

Is anyone here aware of a non-professional athlete, non-social media influencer, non-celebrity, or non-resident shill that has received one yet? I’ve never seen one in real life at a local track yet.

...an updated version.

Nope. From 0 to normal 3-5% isnt anything like 15%. 0% isnt new normal anyway.

I read a rumour that Forato was gonna be the teammate to Herlings.

Revo will be back in GPs. On GasGas machinery. Alberto Forato MXGP (Rumoured) Ethan Lane MX2 Billy Askew EMX250