Sexton's Next Team

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Spoonguy wrote:
My point was Honda already has proven 450 winners they have invested millions upon millions on, as well as many years and a shit ton of...

My point was Honda already has proven 450 winners they have invested millions upon millions on, as well as many years and a shit ton of infrastructure. They already have 450 wanna be Jo waiting, they have invested time and money in. Why bring back the "problem child" or "prodigal son"?

dan22 wrote:
I think people forget that no matter how good the Lawrences are for Honda, HRC would love to have an American winning on the Honda and...

I think people forget that no matter how good the Lawrences are for Honda, HRC would love to have an American winning on the Honda and atleast an American riding a Honda at the front. 

 

Spoonguy wrote:

Does anyone really think the Lawrence family would be cool with Honda giving Chase relatively equal machinery?

Or for that matter Roczen, how would he feel if Chase got equal equipment, let alone the Pipes team finding money for Chase's salary and support?

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dan22 wrote:
I think people forget that no matter how good the Lawrences are for Honda, HRC would love to have an American winning on the Honda and...

I think people forget that no matter how good the Lawrences are for Honda, HRC would love to have an American winning on the Honda and atleast an American riding a Honda at the front. 

 

Spoonguy wrote:

Does anyone really think the Lawrence family would be cool with Honda giving Chase relatively equal machinery?

Spoonguy wrote:

Or for that matter Roczen, how would he feel if Chase got equal equipment, let alone the Pipes team finding money for Chase's salary and support?

I don’t think the Lawrence’s are really worried about what Chase is doing or getting. 

If he goes to quad lock he’ll probably get some support like Joey did. But being an all new bike it won’t really be developed yet and factory parts will be hard to come by initially. 

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I personally don't care what team he ends up riding for.  He wanted out at KTM despite winning outdoors and finishing 2nd in SX.  You cant blame that 2nd place on the bike either, that equipment was certainly good enough to win and he blew it.  I'm sure this will get some downvotes but thats okay.  I think Sexton is a tremendously talented rider and is a lot of fun to watch, but I'm good on the non-stop drama surrounding him.  Never ends up happy where he's at and is making his new home some big secret as if its going to magically work this time.

Let's look at the facts.  He just started riding 2 weeks ago on a turn track only while the rest of his competition has been in bootcamp.  He's still rehabbing the knee and is probably not going to be at 100% conditioning or knee strength come A1.  It also takes time to set a bike up through testing and based on his track record does anyone think he's gonna be on a setup he likes in under 2 months?  2027 is going to be more of the same with him.  He will have incredible rides and may even dominate a round or 2, but it will also be filled with mistakes and being unhappy with the bike when he's not getting the results he wants

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Spoonguy wrote:
My point was Honda already has proven 450 winners they have invested millions upon millions on, as well as many years and a shit ton of...

My point was Honda already has proven 450 winners they have invested millions upon millions on, as well as many years and a shit ton of infrastructure. They already have 450 wanna be Jo waiting, they have invested time and money in. Why bring back the "problem child" or "prodigal son"?

dan22 wrote:
I think people forget that no matter how good the Lawrences are for Honda, HRC would love to have an American winning on the Honda and...

I think people forget that no matter how good the Lawrences are for Honda, HRC would love to have an American winning on the Honda and atleast an American riding a Honda at the front. 

 

CPR wrote:

Aussies winning on an American Honda team or an American winning on an Aussie Honda team 😂

Yes what a beat up of crap😉

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JT said on latest industry seating podcast that roczen didn't want sexton joining the team. 

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Today is Nov 11th....A1 60 days away.  Sexton is on a Turn Track,  assume fitness and pace is well off, and potentially getting familiar with a new bike while his competition is boot camp training on familiar steeds.

This story is more bark than bite. 

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Spoonguy wrote:
My point was Honda already has proven 450 winners they have invested millions upon millions on, as well as many years and a shit ton of...

My point was Honda already has proven 450 winners they have invested millions upon millions on, as well as many years and a shit ton of infrastructure. They already have 450 wanna be Jo waiting, they have invested time and money in. Why bring back the "problem child" or "prodigal son"?

dan22 wrote:
I think people forget that no matter how good the Lawrences are for Honda, HRC would love to have an American winning on the Honda and...

I think people forget that no matter how good the Lawrences are for Honda, HRC would love to have an American winning on the Honda and atleast an American riding a Honda at the front. 

 

Spoonguy wrote:

Does anyone really think the Lawrence family would be cool with Honda giving Chase relatively equal machinery?

If you can't beat a up and down guy on the same bike as yourself - or in this case a lesser satellite version than can you really call yourself amongst the greats? 

Take it from motogp when Marc Marquez found out that Pedro Acosta - the next generational talent - found out he was to be his teammate at Ducati in 2027. Marc simply shrugged his shoulder and said good choice. If you can't beat your teammate or your stablemate that's a you problem not the manufacterers. 

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soggy wrote:
Going to quad lock would be interesting. I wonder if they’ll run the 27 or go with the 26 with all the factory goodies from last...

Going to quad lock would be interesting. I wonder if they’ll run the 27 or go with the 26 with all the factory goodies from last years bike. Factory parts are going to be scarce for the new model, and I fear if sexton knows he’s not getting the parts the Lawrence’s are we may be going down a similar path…

kiwifan wrote:
Given the MXGP bike is based on the new 27 and they have had that now for a year or two then I bet there are...

Given the MXGP bike is based on the new 27 and they have had that now for a year or two then I bet there are plenty of factory parts available 

soggy wrote:
Different teams and different type of racing.Lewis said if Jett were healthy they would have had trouble getting both him and Hunter bikes to train on...

Different teams and different type of racing.

Lewis said if Jett were healthy they would have had trouble getting both him and Hunter bikes to train on. And the development for gp and SX is going to be a completely different bike. 


Those Honda in gp are pre production and not homologated

What are these magical factory parts?

Transmission? Preproduction probably the same, so maybe not rare.

Engine mounts? Easy enough to get.

Airbox? Easy enough to get.

Electric water pumps and oil coolers? Easy

Ignition? This is the hard one, but I think these days it's the bit and bytes they need, which Honda can provide.

Modified frames and swingarms are a problem obviously because of the production rule, but it hasn't been proven they need one.

A lot of these things Honda could just share the factory design and Phoenix could fab their own. Their ECU code and transmission are the exceptions where Honda would need to provide it. So maybe it isn't that dire if there is a willingness to share the IP.

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kiwifan wrote:
Given the MXGP bike is based on the new 27 and they have had that now for a year or two then I bet there are...

Given the MXGP bike is based on the new 27 and they have had that now for a year or two then I bet there are plenty of factory parts available 

soggy wrote:
Different teams and different type of racing.Lewis said if Jett were healthy they would have had trouble getting both him and Hunter bikes to train on...

Different teams and different type of racing.

Lewis said if Jett were healthy they would have had trouble getting both him and Hunter bikes to train on. And the development for gp and SX is going to be a completely different bike. 


Those Honda in gp are pre production and not homologated

mxaniac wrote:
What are these magical factory parts?Transmission? Preproduction probably the same, so maybe not rare.Engine mounts? Easy enough to get.Airbox? Easy enough to get.Electric water pumps and...

What are these magical factory parts?

Transmission? Preproduction probably the same, so maybe not rare.

Engine mounts? Easy enough to get.

Airbox? Easy enough to get.

Electric water pumps and oil coolers? Easy

Ignition? This is the hard one, but I think these days it's the bit and bytes they need, which Honda can provide.

Modified frames and swingarms are a problem obviously because of the production rule, but it hasn't been proven they need one.

A lot of these things Honda could just share the factory design and Phoenix could fab their own. Their ECU code and transmission are the exceptions where Honda would need to provide it. So maybe it isn't that dire if there is a willingness to share the IP.

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I don’t care anymore at this point, I miss the races, off season way too long. 

 

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My money is on Star Yamaha. Please refer back to this post when his ride is announced for a “ I told you so “. 

$500 bet?

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truck wrote:

JT said on latest industry seating podcast that roczen didn't want sexton joining the team. 

Plus he has a monster helmet so no ktm

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truck wrote:

JT said on latest industry seating podcast that roczen didn't want sexton joining the team. 

LP31 wrote:

Plus he has a monster helmet so no ktm

To be fair he's since posted another photo with Kawi logos on his pants so that doesn't mean much. But I believe that you know he's at Quadlock and already riding. They just need to announce it now so this thread can be closed! Hope Chase comes out swining

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My money is on Star Yamaha. Please refer back to this post when his ride is announced for a “ I told you so “. 

LP31 wrote:

$500 bet?

On which predictions that you have made in this thread.....you have stamped him going to every team at some point in here...kinda like the little boy who cried wolf....or you're using the Kooksy method of just throwing shit on the wall.... so when he does decide are you going to claim that you were right....just stop

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My money is on Star Yamaha. Please refer back to this post when his ride is announced for a “ I told you so “. 

LP31 wrote:

$500 bet?

DonM wrote:
On which predictions that you have made in this thread.....you have stamped him going to every team at some point in here...kinda like the little boy...

On which predictions that you have made in this thread.....you have stamped him going to every team at some point in here...kinda like the little boy who cried wolf....or you're using the Kooksy method of just throwing shit on the wall.... so when he does decide are you going to claim that you were right....just stop

He’s gonna be right about one of them! 😆

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At this point most in the industry are saying Quadlock, but it's still an educated guess.

 My guess was KTM, but the same people are saying KTM is out.

 

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To be fair he's since posted another photo with Kawi logos on his pants so that doesn't mean much. But I believe that you know he's...

To be fair he's since posted another photo with Kawi logos on his pants so that doesn't mean much. But I believe that you know he's at Quadlock and already riding. They just need to announce it now so this thread can be closed! Hope Chase comes out swining

The helmet and goggles pictures seemed more product/branding placement (making a point) rather than the half folded kawi logo on his riding pants. That seemed more like trolling.

Its kind of amusing.. the dude gets trolled a ton for being mentally weak, washing the front end, etc. both by fans and the industry. This is like his outlet to troll back.

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soggy wrote:
Different teams and different type of racing.Lewis said if Jett were healthy they would have had trouble getting both him and Hunter bikes to train on...

Different teams and different type of racing.

Lewis said if Jett were healthy they would have had trouble getting both him and Hunter bikes to train on. And the development for gp and SX is going to be a completely different bike. 


Those Honda in gp are pre production and not homologated

mxaniac wrote:
What are these magical factory parts?Transmission? Preproduction probably the same, so maybe not rare.Engine mounts? Easy enough to get.Airbox? Easy enough to get.Electric water pumps and...

What are these magical factory parts?

Transmission? Preproduction probably the same, so maybe not rare.

Engine mounts? Easy enough to get.

Airbox? Easy enough to get.

Electric water pumps and oil coolers? Easy

Ignition? This is the hard one, but I think these days it's the bit and bytes they need, which Honda can provide.

Modified frames and swingarms are a problem obviously because of the production rule, but it hasn't been proven they need one.

A lot of these things Honda could just share the factory design and Phoenix could fab their own. Their ECU code and transmission are the exceptions where Honda would need to provide it. So maybe it isn't that dire if there is a willingness to share the IP.

Exactly, that's why Phoenix only needs the programming Honda has developed.

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m121c wrote:
The helmet and goggles pictures seemed more product/branding placement (making a point) rather than the half folded kawi logo on his riding pants. That seemed more...

The helmet and goggles pictures seemed more product/branding placement (making a point) rather than the half folded kawi logo on his riding pants. That seemed more like trolling.

Its kind of amusing.. the dude gets trolled a ton for being mentally weak, washing the front end, etc. both by fans and the industry. This is like his outlet to troll back.

there was talk some time ago Chase didn't even run his own social accounts- dad was doing it. Good on Chase if he took control himself to troll others as payback.

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Breaking News: Chase retires to pursue a career in welding. 

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CC268 wrote:

Breaking News: Chase retires to pursue a career in welding. 

  How would he support his dad then? lol 

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I'll be surprised if Sexton even shows up for A1. 

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CC268 wrote:

Breaking News: Chase retires to pursue a career in welding. 

Fixed it for you...

Breaking News: Chase retires to pursue a career in trolling.

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