Sexton leaving Kawasaki?

Jkawi wrote:

Thread is too long to scan through now. What are the reasons that lots here think Chase is leaving Kawi? Facts, not opinions. Not that Chase...

Thread is too long to scan through now. What are the reasons that lots here think Chase is leaving Kawi? Facts, not opinions. Not that Chase is obviously must be maybe probably upset with the bike so that means he's going to leave like Jorge. What has been said and by who? I assume he is staying at Kawi and haven't seen or heard anything anywhere else other than here?  just cause Prado quit last year doesn't mean that is the new normal. At least I hope not for the sake of the sport.

What facts am I missing that lead to this even being a question?

Page 23 seems like a good spot for a synopsis by anyone that has followed the whole thread!

matze wrote:

now that u say it.. no reason at all. Everything is just perfect under the Factory Kawasaki tent. 

Press516 wrote:

A Husky NOT on WP suspension.

Sounds awfully familiar…

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

Do I recall Reed swapping back to WP eventually, stating the KYB didn’t work well with the steel frame? It was a few years ago now, I...

Do I recall Reed swapping back to WP eventually, stating the KYB didn’t work well with the steel frame? 

It was a few years ago now, I can’t remember if it was him.

Sully wrote:

Let’s be realistic here, it wasn’t suspension holding Reed back those last couple of years. 

Jkawi wrote:

Thread is too long to scan through now. What are the reasons that lots here think Chase is leaving Kawi? Facts, not opinions. Not that Chase...

Thread is too long to scan through now. What are the reasons that lots here think Chase is leaving Kawi? Facts, not opinions. Not that Chase is obviously must be maybe probably upset with the bike so that means he's going to leave like Jorge. What has been said and by who? I assume he is staying at Kawi and haven't seen or heard anything anywhere else other than here?  just cause Prado quit last year doesn't mean that is the new normal. At least I hope not for the sake of the sport.

What facts am I missing that lead to this even being a question?

Page 23 seems like a good spot for a synopsis by anyone that has followed the whole thread!

matze wrote:

now that u say it.. no reason at all. Everything is just perfect under the Factory Kawasaki tent. 

Jkawi wrote:

Never said everything was perfect. I asked why people think he is just going to quit and give up.

Jkawi wrote:

Never said everything was perfect. I asked why people think he is just going to quit and give up.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

Do I recall Reed swapping back to WP eventually, stating the KYB didn’t work well with the steel frame? It was a few years ago now, I...

Do I recall Reed swapping back to WP eventually, stating the KYB didn’t work well with the steel frame? 

It was a few years ago now, I can’t remember if it was him.

Sully wrote:

Let’s be realistic here, it wasn’t suspension holding Reed back those last couple of years. 

Jkawi wrote:

And it isn't the bike holding Sexton back this year. At least not to the level some are making it out to be. He sucks at...

And it isn't the bike holding Sexton back this year. At least not to the level some are making it out to be. He sucks at testing and he is very picky. And when things don't go his way, he picks up his ball and goes home.

Sully wrote:

Let’s be realistic here, it wasn’t suspension holding Reed back those last couple of years. 

Jkawi wrote:

And it isn't the bike holding Sexton back this year. At least not to the level some are making it out to be. He sucks at...

And it isn't the bike holding Sexton back this year. At least not to the level some are making it out to be. He sucks at testing and he is very picky. And when things don't go his way, he picks up his ball and goes home.

yak651 wrote:

He continues to pick himself off the ground and charge 💯 leading to additional crashes when he could back it down and take a safe top...

He continues to pick himself off the ground and charge 💯 leading to additional crashes when he could back it down and take a safe top five. But go ahead and explain how his actions shows he takes his ball and goes home…

matze wrote:

There are 26 pages for you to find out, every single page has reasons why people think he may want to leave Kawasaki. No need to...

There are 26 pages for you to find out, every single page has reasons why people think he may want to leave Kawasaki. No need to go thru all of em. If youre looking for facts, as in, the team manager went out to the public and screamed yes Chase wants to leave us - suprrise surprise - there are none

KiwiBermRailer wrote:

Any one know when Deegan and Jett are racing?

Sully wrote:

Let’s be realistic here, it wasn’t suspension holding Reed back those last couple of years. 

Jkawi wrote:

And it isn't the bike holding Sexton back this year. At least not to the level some are making it out to be. He sucks at...

And it isn't the bike holding Sexton back this year. At least not to the level some are making it out to be. He sucks at testing and he is very picky. And when things don't go his way, he picks up his ball and goes home.

yak651 wrote:

He continues to pick himself off the ground and charge 💯 leading to additional crashes when he could back it down and take a safe top...

He continues to pick himself off the ground and charge 💯 leading to additional crashes when he could back it down and take a safe top five. But go ahead and explain how his actions shows he takes his ball and goes home…

Jkawi wrote:

Never said everything was perfect. I asked why people think he is just going to quit and give up.

bosswool2800 wrote:

There’s no evidence that he’s leaving Kawi. 

Jkawi wrote:

Never said everything was perfect. I asked why people think he is just going to quit and give up.

bosswool2800 wrote:

There’s no evidence that he’s leaving Kawi. 

Jkawi wrote:

Thank you for the only clear answer in this thread. I guess tinfoil hats are just the new style.

bosswool2800 wrote:

There’s no evidence that he’s leaving Kawi. 

Jkawi wrote:

Thank you for the only clear answer in this thread. I guess tinfoil hats are just the new style.

mxjeff575 wrote:

I don't think this is some off-the-wall tinfoil hat theory.  I think there is solid evidence he is unhappy at Kawasaki, and enough industry insiders have...

I don't think this is some off-the-wall tinfoil hat theory.  I think there is solid evidence he is unhappy at Kawasaki, and enough industry insiders have discussed him talking to other teams.  Where there is smoke, there is often times fire.  He has publicly stated he's the most uncomfortable he's ever been in his career on the current bike.  Fahie has made statements that would seem to confirm to outsiders there's some tension there.  I feel 99% sure that Chase (and his advisors/agents/lawyers) are scrutinizing the contract, talking to other teams, and seeing if they can get the correct pieces to line up to change teams.  There's always the chance things don't line up and he stays at Kawi, but I'm thinking he wants to leave.  

Some similarities to Prado's debacle last year, there was smoke.  It was easy to say "he has a 3 year contract, no news here", but the smoke signals turned out to be true.

Jkawi wrote:

Thank you for the only clear answer in this thread. I guess tinfoil hats are just the new style.

mxjeff575 wrote:

I don't think this is some off-the-wall tinfoil hat theory.  I think there is solid evidence he is unhappy at Kawasaki, and enough industry insiders have...

I don't think this is some off-the-wall tinfoil hat theory.  I think there is solid evidence he is unhappy at Kawasaki, and enough industry insiders have discussed him talking to other teams.  Where there is smoke, there is often times fire.  He has publicly stated he's the most uncomfortable he's ever been in his career on the current bike.  Fahie has made statements that would seem to confirm to outsiders there's some tension there.  I feel 99% sure that Chase (and his advisors/agents/lawyers) are scrutinizing the contract, talking to other teams, and seeing if they can get the correct pieces to line up to change teams.  There's always the chance things don't line up and he stays at Kawi, but I'm thinking he wants to leave.  

Some similarities to Prado's debacle last year, there was smoke.  It was easy to say "he has a 3 year contract, no news here", but the smoke signals turned out to be true.

30minmotos wrote:

Why the hell would they sign Malcolm to a 2 year deal and renew garret, if Chase is staying?When’s the last time kawi had 3 riders...

Why the hell would they sign Malcolm to a 2 year deal and renew garret, if Chase is staying?

When’s the last time kawi had 3 riders? Isn’t that enough proof something’s off?

mxjeff575 wrote:

I don't think this is some off-the-wall tinfoil hat theory.  I think there is solid evidence he is unhappy at Kawasaki, and enough industry insiders have...

I don't think this is some off-the-wall tinfoil hat theory.  I think there is solid evidence he is unhappy at Kawasaki, and enough industry insiders have discussed him talking to other teams.  Where there is smoke, there is often times fire.  He has publicly stated he's the most uncomfortable he's ever been in his career on the current bike.  Fahie has made statements that would seem to confirm to outsiders there's some tension there.  I feel 99% sure that Chase (and his advisors/agents/lawyers) are scrutinizing the contract, talking to other teams, and seeing if they can get the correct pieces to line up to change teams.  There's always the chance things don't line up and he stays at Kawi, but I'm thinking he wants to leave.  

Some similarities to Prado's debacle last year, there was smoke.  It was easy to say "he has a 3 year contract, no news here", but the smoke signals turned out to be true.

30minmotos wrote:

Why the hell would they sign Malcolm to a 2 year deal and renew garret, if Chase is staying?When’s the last time kawi had 3 riders...

Why the hell would they sign Malcolm to a 2 year deal and renew garret, if Chase is staying?

When’s the last time kawi had 3 riders? Isn’t that enough proof something’s off?

RDnutz wrote:

insurance against Chase taking a long time to work himself back into race shape and get used to the new bike perhaps? Malcolm has missed some...

insurance against Chase taking a long time to work himself back into race shape and get used to the new bike perhaps? Malcolm has missed some time with recently too. I would think they want to make sure they have at least 2 of the 3 entered each week. 

bosswool2800 wrote:

There’s no evidence that he’s leaving Kawi. 

KurtJ99 wrote:

There’s 27 pages of circumstantial evidence, conspiracy theories, riding tips and personal attacks. I’m convinced. 

KurtJ99 wrote:

There’s 27 pages of circumstantial evidence, conspiracy theories, riding tips and personal attacks. I’m convinced. 

RDnutz wrote:

let's be real here. You SERIOUSLY think with not 1 reliable, confirmed leak from an insider who would unquestionably be involved in negotiations for Chase to...

let's be real here. You SERIOUSLY think with not 1 reliable, confirmed leak from an insider who would unquestionably be involved in negotiations for Chase to leave has surfaced, it is still happening at this late stage of musical chairs for 2027 riders changing teams? That seems unbelievable to me a secret like that could be kept quiet this long with so many sources getting scoops out there. I could be wrong and pigs could fly too 🤔

RDnutz wrote:

relevance to current Sexton situation?

USA wrote:

The irony is too good not to point out. 3strokemx was adamant that the KX 2 stroke was not real. Very similar to how RDNutz thinks...

The irony is too good not to point out. 3strokemx was adamant that the KX 2 stroke was not real. Very similar to how RDNutz thinks its absolutely not possible that Sexton wants out at Kawi. Both of these users spit in the face of all the common sense in front of them. 

In the Kawi 2 stroke case, we know what happened. I am enjoying seeing these 2 now go back and forth over Sexton. And again, somebody that just won't take into account the overwhelming amount of information that would make a normal person not speak in absolutes to refute it. 

Austin Keyfinger wrote:

Has anyone thought to just ask chase what his plans are? 

USA wrote:

The irony is too good not to point out. 3strokemx was adamant that the KX 2 stroke was not real. Very similar to how RDNutz thinks...

The irony is too good not to point out. 3strokemx was adamant that the KX 2 stroke was not real. Very similar to how RDNutz thinks its absolutely not possible that Sexton wants out at Kawi. Both of these users spit in the face of all the common sense in front of them. 

In the Kawi 2 stroke case, we know what happened. I am enjoying seeing these 2 now go back and forth over Sexton. And again, somebody that just won't take into account the overwhelming amount of information that would make a normal person not speak in absolutes to refute it. 

280driver wrote:

Soooooo we still know nothing…….

280driver wrote:

Soooooo we still know nothing…….

GrapeApe wrote:

Why do people keep saying this? We know exactly as much about Chase as we do Prado or Marchbanks or any other rider that is under...

Why do people keep saying this? We know exactly as much about Chase as we do Prado or Marchbanks or any other rider that is under contract to ride for a team next year.

3strokemx wrote:

They told us KTM wasn't going bankrupt.