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With all I've read about Chase Sexton's Dad being such a negative influence on his son & his son's relationships with Kawasaki and past teams he was contracted to...and recent stuff I've heard about kind of the same deal with other pro riders where their Dads are seemingly too involved...why can't the riders cut the proverbial cord with their Fathers (or Mothers) once they are under a factory tent, and let them be adults & make decisions on their own?
This obviously isn’t all riders, but most riders are socially retarded and can’t operate without their parents because that’s their comfort zone.
. Some parents don’t want to let go because it’s their kids future, and some are living vicariously through them.
Tony Alessi thought he was doing what his kids needed, when in reality he was hurting them long term. RVs dad same, but Mitch and RVs manager stood up to him and made RV tell him to stop coming to races.
What’s sad, is that it’s worse today than it ever was, so many amateurs are seriously coddled by their parents. There is an 85 kid who is somewhat fast, and if he ever makes it, his mom will be the center of attention.
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Two things. If helmet manufacturers would get together and figure out a simpler way to secure their product to the young mans heads and if we could just make bike stands a little shorter it would lessen the need to have dad in the pits.
Intresting dynamic in individual sports vs stick and ball, seems team sports provide a lot more support and they are young adults.
Tennis and moto etc...a lot of pros are still children, and im including the factory amauters in that. Golf seems a bit different.
As a moto dad, I stopped when he said, if its so easy show me how!
Best part, im 63, he is 33, and we still ride together whenever possible, blessed!
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And why do some of the riders have their agents in the pits at each race? Are these agents addicted to networking? Never know when a deal might pop up?
I didn’t even like riding at the track without my dad being there watching, it felt weird. For some reason I felt safer and that I that could push it as hard as I could when he was there.
She’s batshit crazy. Wonder when the next move will be to another facility. They seem to run through them a lot
This topic feels personal to me. Without giving too much information about myself away... I had a professional racing career in a different discipline of motorcycle racing. Honestly, my dad had already done enough damage at 14 years old that it negatively affected the rest of my career. By time I was old enough to get away, a lot of the damage was already done. So we ended up doing it on our own and basically failed at that too. I had one opportunity at a decent satellite ride on the conditions my dad wasn't involved. Looking back now, that probably was my chance. But... There is such a psychological tie to wanting to believe your parent is right and not the fucked up part of your life. It's extremely hard to swallow that and walk away from. It feels deep down like you are choosing between family and a career. Chase's dad might be the biggest detrimental aspect of his career. I'm not the one to say. But if it is, that's going to be a very sad story to look back on with the talent that he has.
I had the pleasure of watching the person in your avatar rise to the top from PW's on to Factory Yamaha with his dad and it was a thing of beauty. Never loud, never throwing shit, just calm cool collective softly spoken words. Dwayne would watch diligently from the infields of the local tracks, motion over to Kevin and he would pull up to get instruction. A finger point in the direction of what needed attention, some words that you couldn't hear into the side of the helmet, a pat on the back and Kevin was off to clean it up. Perfection or that's what it seemed from afar from the track to the truck and I remember watching Dwayne slowly pull back once Kevin was on Factory Yam until he was simply a fan on the sidelines. Good times but also at the same tracks saw parents throwing clods of dirt at their kids while on the track, the screaming and yelling in the pits (not paddock) throwing shit in/at the truck etc. etc. pathetic is what I call that behavior...
Daza Lawrence seems to go OK.
Unsurprising that a respectful hardworking decent parent has respectful hardworking decent offspring.
Bad subject to bring up on Vital, I would be sure there is a lot of moto dads on here who hover over their children's racing accomplishments. That being said, I don't know if you ever will love anyone as much as your own child obviously, and most parents that have destroyed there kids careers in racing genuinely thought they were doing what was best for their kids. Save for Josh Grant's mom and a few others if I understand correctly. Decoster once said the best racer would be an orphan. What other jobs or professions do dads and moms tag along to? It is kind of weird.
Decoster’s parents hated Motorcycles.
Shows how things have changed - no one could be a champion rider with parental support from an early age now.
I could see him pulling back soon, especially with Hunter if he went to another team. Jett could benefit from his guidance for a bit more but even then I can see Darren knowing when to back off.
On the other hand, some dads sacrificed a lot and did everything they could afford to provide for their sons racing. So much that they felt more pressure to succeed and prove the naysayers wrong, only to find him eating cookies with others on the Arenacross circuit and chowing down everyone's Waffle House...
I work a round of the NCGP series most years, a small percentage (10-15%) of the mini parents are absolute monsters. Climbing over fences, throwing screaming tantrums at their kids, brawling with other parents.. it’s amazing that the moto world doesn’t produce a stream of mass murderers..
I saw a dad at our local track riding around yelling instructions at his kid. Not necessarily a bad thing. But then I saw him, tell his kid to get off the bike and do push ups on the side of the track. I mean, I try not to judge. And I don't know the dynamics of their relationship. But man, it was hard for me to mind my own business and not say something.
Jett is at an age now he could be a college graduate, do you really think he needs dad's guidance to race dirt bikes? Hasn't Jett been racing sometime now? Maybe I should ask, "should" Jett need guidance from his dad still?
Best you didn’t. That is not your business.
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DV has some stories about his dad on the Whisky Throttle pod, said his dad used to hit him and one day he decided he had enough so he cut him out of his life.
Yes.
I think young adults need lots of guidance especially the more money is involved.
Its called mentorship.
Are we expecting young men...@Spoonman...to be all knowing? At any education level?
Young adults benefit greatly from mentorship and guidance because they have no experience or perspective.
Jett is 23, men fought wars at that age commonly, many leading other men to war. It wasn't too long ago this was grown man age. Now in the day and age of 25 year olds living in mom's basement waiting for "a job in their field", it is a welp that needs assistance I guess. I really believe young people are far more capable than we give them credit for, and the older generation insisting on "guiding" very capable young adults is more a reflection of the old needing relevance and purpose than the young needing help.
Agree, and that is sort of a thing that stick and ball sports provide well. Older players, former players, coaches etc.. not often we hear of parents being too onvolved at the pro level. At the local level parents can be wack in all sports, lol.
Having joined the Navy at 19, my first few years i was a pos. l went to a command that that had a good Chiefs mess a a few good Officers, I recieved mentorship and a few good kicks in the ass that was the foundation a pretty succesful 30 year career.
Mentorship is not holding a hand, more like opportunity and accountability, my perspevtive anyways.
Do tell all!, don’t leave us hanging…….
I’ve seen some moto moms that are just as bad…..
Thank you for your service, your parents and America should be proud of you. My cousin Spencer volunteered for WW2 at 15, led airborne troops at one time Germany, wrote a book about it, "Amongst the clouds" I think was the novels name. Mentorship is not a dad going to work every day with a mid 20s son who needs help is my assumption. Mentorship was not your dad, correct? Dad's tagging along can be very different. Non family members do not have emotional baggage accompaning them.
Riding myself has been the best reality check there is. I think its really odd when I see kids and their parents dont race or ride.
sometimes kids need a kick in the ass though. Part of being a parent.
Brian Deegan is doing a good job with Haydon
Ahhhh, I see what you did there.
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