Now 2 chinese bikes coming to mxgp

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GHOPPER wrote:

Does anyone know how the bikes performed at the GP? Like everyone else all I got was poker.

ksithumper wrote:
Top 15 in a field of 12.  Joking aside, Hsu was looking pretty good on the JHL - if that is a production bike, its good enough...

Top 15 in a field of 12.

 

Joking aside, Hsu was looking pretty good on the JHL - if that is a production bike, its good enough for the average Joe.

Kove already has a lot of high level racing experience - expect them to quickly do better. And ZX has a manically enthusiastic boss who is aiming for the stars, so ditto.

Meanwhile, new RM450s are on offer in the UK at prices that will entice you not to take the risk inherent in the Chinese decision. Yet.

I laughed...  Then I actually went to see how he did.

Uh, 14?  Really?  

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GHOPPER wrote:

Does anyone know how the bikes performed at the GP? Like everyone else all I got was poker.

ksithumper wrote:
Top 15 in a field of 12.  Joking aside, Hsu was looking pretty good on the JHL - if that is a production bike, its good enough...

Top 15 in a field of 12.

 

Joking aside, Hsu was looking pretty good on the JHL - if that is a production bike, its good enough for the average Joe.

Kove already has a lot of high level racing experience - expect them to quickly do better. And ZX has a manically enthusiastic boss who is aiming for the stars, so ditto.

Meanwhile, new RM450s are on offer in the UK at prices that will entice you not to take the risk inherent in the Chinese decision. Yet.

Press516 wrote:
I laughed...  Then I actually went to see how he did.Uh, 14?  Really?  

I laughed...  Then I actually went to see how he did.

Uh, 14?  Really?  

Scored a bunch of world championship points on its first outing…

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ksithumper wrote:
Top 15 in a field of 12.  Joking aside, Hsu was looking pretty good on the JHL - if that is a production bike, its good enough...

Top 15 in a field of 12.

 

Joking aside, Hsu was looking pretty good on the JHL - if that is a production bike, its good enough for the average Joe.

Kove already has a lot of high level racing experience - expect them to quickly do better. And ZX has a manically enthusiastic boss who is aiming for the stars, so ditto.

Meanwhile, new RM450s are on offer in the UK at prices that will entice you not to take the risk inherent in the Chinese decision. Yet.

Press516 wrote:
I laughed...  Then I actually went to see how he did.Uh, 14?  Really?  

I laughed...  Then I actually went to see how he did.

Uh, 14?  Really?  

Robgvx wrote:

Scored a bunch of world championship points on its first outing…

On a 350.

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ksithumper wrote:
Top 15 in a field of 12.  Joking aside, Hsu was looking pretty good on the JHL - if that is a production bike, its good enough...

Top 15 in a field of 12.

 

Joking aside, Hsu was looking pretty good on the JHL - if that is a production bike, its good enough for the average Joe.

Kove already has a lot of high level racing experience - expect them to quickly do better. And ZX has a manically enthusiastic boss who is aiming for the stars, so ditto.

Meanwhile, new RM450s are on offer in the UK at prices that will entice you not to take the risk inherent in the Chinese decision. Yet.

Press516 wrote:
I laughed...  Then I actually went to see how he did.Uh, 14?  Really?  

I laughed...  Then I actually went to see how he did.

Uh, 14?  Really?  

Robgvx wrote:

Scored a bunch of world championship points on its first outing…

Yeah he did…. My concern was with only 14 bikes on the line.  That’s pathetic.

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DonM wrote:

So we're excited about Chinese knock-off bikes?....isn't the JHL just an exact KTM copy? 

Triumph's bikes have almost the same geometry as the KTM, yet no one seems to care. The new KX 327 has an almost identical engine to the KTM SX 300, not to mention they copy the seat mounting system, air filter, airbox, etc. So what's your opinion on that?

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Andy7 wrote:
Triumph's bikes have almost the same geometry as the KTM, yet no one seems to care. The new KX 327 has an almost identical engine to...

Triumph's bikes have almost the same geometry as the KTM, yet no one seems to care. The new KX 327 has an almost identical engine to the KTM SX 300, not to mention they copy the seat mounting system, air filter, airbox, etc. So what's your opinion on that?

Probably historical Chinese quality. Or lack thereof.

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DonM wrote:

So we're excited about Chinese knock-off bikes?....isn't the JHL just an exact KTM copy? 

Andy7 wrote:
Triumph's bikes have almost the same geometry as the KTM, yet no one seems to care. The new KX 327 has an almost identical engine to...

Triumph's bikes have almost the same geometry as the KTM, yet no one seems to care. The new KX 327 has an almost identical engine to the KTM SX 300, not to mention they copy the seat mounting system, air filter, airbox, etc. So what's your opinion on that?

The triumph frame looks suspiciously similar to the aluminum frame ktm was testing several years ago. 

Taking inspiration from something is different to copying. The jhl bikes do look very similar to some KTM’s. It’d be interesting to know how they differ internally if at all. 

In the end though if they are solid bikes and they are cheaper isn’t that what everyone has been yelling at the clouds about for years?

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ZXMoto now has Skyler Howes on a factory effort for Dakar in the Rally GP class along with Tobias Ebster in Rally2. Can't fault them for not being ambitious.

The Chinese are coming and won't take no for an answer.

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Beta480RX wrote:
ZXMoto now has Skyler Howes on a factory effort for Dakar in the Rally GP class along with Tobias Ebster in Rally2. Can't fault them for...

ZXMoto now has Skyler Howes on a factory effort for Dakar in the Rally GP class along with Tobias Ebster in Rally2. Can't fault them for not being ambitious.

The Chinese are coming and won't take no for an answer.

They’ll take no once they have to warranty some things.

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ShellyMX wrote:

They’ll take no once they have to warranty some things.

Depends if the clown is demanding a buyback for waiting on recall parts covered under the warranty.

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Kove testing their 450 today in the sands of Belgium. 

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Brent wrote:

Kove testing their 450 today in the sands of Belgium. 

They have been doing that for weeks now. Lommel, Berghem, you name it. Tyler Eltink is testing the 450 as Chris Mills and Jean Visser did for the 250 the past months.

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Don't discount the Chinese.  Just look at eMTB.  Specialized basically invented the entire category.  The Chinese started with cheaper copies, but now they (Amflow) are completely out-innovating all the big manufacturers.  The Chinese innovate extremely quickly while many Japanese and Western companies are OK to just milk existing designs with BNG, minor updates.  Just like KTM disrupted the Japanese bikes (that lacked innovation), the Chinese bikes will disrupt motocross.  And just wait until they start producing very capable electric dirt bikes for 5k.  Its game over...

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That’s a crazy take, Mike. 

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Andy7 wrote:
Triumph's bikes have almost the same geometry as the KTM, yet no one seems to care. The new KX 327 has an almost identical engine to...

Triumph's bikes have almost the same geometry as the KTM, yet no one seems to care. The new KX 327 has an almost identical engine to the KTM SX 300, not to mention they copy the seat mounting system, air filter, airbox, etc. So what's your opinion on that?

ShellyMX wrote:

Probably historical Chinese quality. Or lack thereof.

Would you prefer Cannondale quality?

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Would you prefer Cannondale quality?

Would you prefer Cannondale quality?

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You drive a hard bargain

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9/18/2026 9:16pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2026 9:34pm
Brent wrote:

Kove testing their 450 today in the sands of Belgium. 

DeStouwer wrote:
They have been doing that for weeks now. Lommel, Berghem, you name it. Tyler Eltink is testing the 450 as Chris Mills and Jean Visser did...

They have been doing that for weeks now. Lommel, Berghem, you name it. Tyler Eltink is testing the 450 as Chris Mills and Jean Visser did for the 250 the past months.

Berghem is such a great sand track…

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They've come a long way by buying/stealing technology and tooling...

Chinese Takeout

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BuckeyeJoe wrote:

They've come a long way by buying/stealing technology and tooling...

Chinese Takeout

Who's technology did they steal when inventing guns?

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This can only be a good thing for moto and the riding community.

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This will be on every bike produced from China.

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