Would you rather ride a 250f fast, or a 450 slow and smooth?

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I always enjoyed riding slower bikes fast more so than fast bikes slow. Especially at 155lbs. Even when I dabbled with track days, the small bores were more fun.

Which do y'all prefer?

 

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I think it would be a blast to race a KX112 Supermini in the Vet Novice class 😀

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350f

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8/21/2026 9:08pm

I have a 450 and feel way more in control smooth and flowing over banging gears and revving out a 250

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tree fiddy! 

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SLAPAHO wrote:

I think it would be a blast to race a KX112 Supermini in the Vet Novice class 😀

That would be a blast!  I (as an adult normally racing A class) took my mom's KX85 out for C class practice once and laid waste to the 450 C riders.  It was a riot.  My son has a Lynks 112 Husqvarna and that bike is legitimately fast.  Its like full 125 power and 50 lbs lighter.  

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Well, I'd say Smooth and Fast, whatever the bloody capacity / type of bike you are on.

I can do Smooth - I've always worked on that.

Fast?, well, that's relative...........

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350, can ride it both ways 👍

But I can't decide which way to go as my 2nd bike. 250f to help with the aggressive side or 450 to help with the smooth side. Might just have to have all 3.

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I only own a 250 2 stroke these days.. feels like I’m bubba in 03 but in reality I’m slow AF..

I don’t really care how fast I am these days, and the fun level is unmatched!

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Sounds a lot cooler riding the 250 fast

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8/21/2026 11:18pm

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

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I short shift my 450 and find it helps make me smoother, if I bang the rev limiter a lot I find it harder to control the bike more, weird but that's just how I feel 

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8/22/2026 1:11am Edited Date/Time 8/22/2026 1:13am

There’s actually being fast, and then there’s feeling fast. Riding a low horsepower bike WFO, throttle pinned, while dancing on the shifter, just feels more fun than gliding around the track in 3rd gear and never having to shift. Even though that’s likely way faster.

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350 at a medium pace

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I'm recently back on a 450 for the first time in a while. Not sure if my logic holds any weight but I feel like I'm not willing to be aggressive as I once was (age, having a child at home etc). And I thought I would try to alter my technique a bit and just try and work on roll speed and being smooth. And I thought a 450 would probably help with that. So far, in certain areas I do feel like I've made some progress but I'm still not sure if I'm being too passive now or not. Just trying to find my groove. I only have 4 rides on the 450. 

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Right now I’m riding a 500, sort of smooth and undoubtedly slow..

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Since I ride my 450 slow I’ll pick the slow and smooth option. 

One of my favorite bikes of all time was a 1991 KDX200. Slow and smooth and the most fun to ride

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I ride everything slow so whatever bike I have fun on at the moment. 

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Plus 50 here...  250fs are like play bikes with good suspension.... 450s can be gnarly beasts that wanna rip your arms out of the socket... ya, imma 250f guy now days... loll... 

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I rode mx on a 450.  It was just too easy to short shift and hop over everything chugging along.  Especially at 170 pounds.  Downside was after 5 or 6 laps my arm pump was terrible.  Once I moved to woods riding the short shitfing continues.  Was on a 250xcf that I just went up a tooth and kept the revs low and momentum up.  Same applies to the yz250x I had and now the 250xc tbi.  For me pushing each gear to the limit is a blast but gear high and carry speed is substantially faster.  Dont really matter what bike it is.

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125 or 250F.

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There’s actually being fast, and then there’s feeling fast. Riding a low horsepower bike WFO, throttle pinned, while dancing on the shifter, just feels more fun...

There’s actually being fast, and then there’s feeling fast. Riding a low horsepower bike WFO, throttle pinned, while dancing on the shifter, just feels more fun than gliding around the track in 3rd gear and never having to shift. Even though that’s likely way faster.

Had a 450 that I lugged around the track like it was New Holland pulling a disc through a rock hard field. Sold that and bought a 150sx that is constantly screaming for mercy at the local sand track. I'm absolutely slower on the 150, but I have a LOT more fun on it. 

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I picked up an 02 rm 125 and I’m having so much fun ringing its neck. Maybe the most fun I’ve ever had riding.  Also have 2026 250f. Every time I go to load a bike to go to track I’m choosing the RM. 😎

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EAmato88
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after years of riding a 450, the modern 250f is easily more fun for me. the way it handles vs a 450 is enough for me to not want to ride a 450, plus twisting the throttle is much more fun than riding between 1/4 and 1/2 throttle 90% of the time

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i tried a few 450s (06 kx450, 08 crf450, 10 rmz, 11 yz450, 25 yz450, 24 kx450) but could never get to where i felt confident dicing around with one. each one always felt like it was missing an ingredient. 

always felt the weight when i was tired, and i could never feel aggressive in  corners or races. always felt like i had to hold back. have tried a 350 and it was awesome but the super linear powerband threw me off. 

just gonna build a 250: big bore, cams, ignition. 

20 hours ago

Prefer a mid sized bike so I get a little of both.. 350 fart machine or 250 smoker is perfect. 

125s are fun but I like feeling more in control than going WFO everywhere... unless I'm on a wide open vintage style track.  Riding anything woods or technical on a tiddler is a lot. 

450s feel too heavy, I would naturally ride them lower in the RPMs but the weight and centrifugal mass (and chances of fucking up with whiskey throttling) are more than I like 

 

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