Zach Osborne: "It's highly likely that I'll do the last three [nationals]."

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prozach wrote:
Don't they have a 35+ and 45+ class that is closed to anyone who has raced a national.  For those people who don't want to have...

Don't they have a 35+ and 45+ class that is closed to anyone who has raced a national.  For those people who don't want to have to race old factory riders? 

Yes it's 30 plus and 45 Plus

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If you qualified for the same class as them quit bitching. 
If you didn’t or can’t qualify for the same class quit bitching. 
 

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I would love to see a 35 plus ex pro class someday. The same people that complain they winnin  the vet classes say nothing about kids...

I would love to see a 35 plus ex pro class someday. The same people that complain they winnin  the vet classes say nothing about kids already signed to factory deals winning the B classes. 

I would soooooo much rather see that than the futures/next/still growing pubs class.... 

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For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on...

For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on a quad 😂.

I always thought that was odd but it’s worse now that he’s older.  Not the “typical style” for sure but gets the job done for him. 

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prozach wrote:
Don't they have a 35+ and 45+ class that is closed to anyone who has raced a national.  For those people who don't want to have...

Don't they have a 35+ and 45+ class that is closed to anyone who has raced a national.  For those people who don't want to have to race old factory riders? 

No, they don't. The 30 and 45 are called sportsman classes. This just means theyre eligible if theyve never scored a pro point. This means 21st-40th at outdoor nationals or missed qualifying by a spot for a supercross main. You ever watch the skill level at an outdoor nat in the 20s? Still professional. 

I still maintain that if youve made the fast 40 you shouldnt be racing Lorettas. You should be racing vet nationals. Not amateur nationals. 

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There is a world wide problem for riders that has been pro’s and now just want to race for fun.If you have been fast once upon...

There is a world wide problem for riders that has been pro’s and now just want to race for fun.


If you have been fast once upon a time, there is a good chance that 90% of your max speed will stay with you for MANY years. 

Even 10 years after i stopped racing as a pro I could not line up and race a VET or Vintage class without complaints from others that i did not belong there. But where should I ride if I have not trained or raced seriously for 10 years?. The pro classes was not right for me either.


I can promise that riders like Zacho is not at LL’s and chasing trophies, he got plenty of those at home. He is just there and collecting memories at this point and having a good time.

But it’s always hard for a ex pro to fit in when they have stopped racing. 

yardsailor wrote:

Well said. 👍

World Vet happens at Glen Helen every year and rarely do any of them show up.  Age specific PRO classes just for them on a badass track and not some rut fest on flat ground.  Would be cool as hell if they’d all just commit to World Vet like they do Loretta’s.  

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Tumic wrote:
There is a world wide problem for riders that has been pro’s and now just want to race for fun.If you have been fast once upon...

There is a world wide problem for riders that has been pro’s and now just want to race for fun.


If you have been fast once upon a time, there is a good chance that 90% of your max speed will stay with you for MANY years. 

Even 10 years after i stopped racing as a pro I could not line up and race a VET or Vintage class without complaints from others that i did not belong there. But where should I ride if I have not trained or raced seriously for 10 years?. The pro classes was not right for me either.


I can promise that riders like Zacho is not at LL’s and chasing trophies, he got plenty of those at home. He is just there and collecting memories at this point and having a good time.

But it’s always hard for a ex pro to fit in when they have stopped racing. 

yardsailor wrote:

Well said. 👍

brocster wrote:
World Vet happens at Glen Helen every year and rarely do any of them show up.  Age specific PRO classes just for them on a badass...

World Vet happens at Glen Helen every year and rarely do any of them show up.  Age specific PRO classes just for them on a badass track and not some rut fest on flat ground.  Would be cool as hell if they’d all just commit to World Vet like they do Loretta’s.  

One day I will take in the LL Nationals.  Id love to see old pro’s out there. 
Would be great to see Windham and anyone else. 
Neat to see the Gibson kid pass Osborn today.  How cool is that? 

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yardsailor wrote:

Well said. 👍

brocster wrote:
World Vet happens at Glen Helen every year and rarely do any of them show up.  Age specific PRO classes just for them on a badass...

World Vet happens at Glen Helen every year and rarely do any of them show up.  Age specific PRO classes just for them on a badass track and not some rut fest on flat ground.  Would be cool as hell if they’d all just commit to World Vet like they do Loretta’s.  

yardsailor wrote:
One day I will take in the LL Nationals.  Id love to see old pro’s out there. Would be great to see Windham and anyone else. Neat to...

One day I will take in the LL Nationals.  Id love to see old pro’s out there. 
Would be great to see Windham and anyone else. 
Neat to see the Gibson kid pass Osborn today.  How cool is that? 

To each their own. I saw the past Pros in their prime and get to see quite a few still riding around here.  If I went to Loretta’s I’d be more interested in the B classes, 125’s and Superminis

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For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on...

For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on a quad 😂.

DonJulio wrote:

I have always thought he was boring to watch. (I’m a fan though)

You weren't in Vegas were you? 🤣

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 Maybe pros racing Loretta's is the reason for the amateur systems downfall...? 🤣

 

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decano51 wrote:

 Maybe pros racing Loretta's is the reason for the amateur systems downfall...? 🤣

 

Meanwhile somewhere far from the United States the next superstars of moto are grinding away...

 

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Sorry but him and few others shouldnt be at the "Amateur" National Championship chasing trophies. LL needs a retired, ex pro class 

 

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typical blame the racer take. Is he racing within the rules? Then maybe take up your issue with the rule makers, not the rider. Lame

I am blaming both of them, hes just chasing trophies to make himself feel better because he can't win in the big league so he has...

I am blaming both of them, hes just chasing trophies to make himself feel better because he can't win in the big league so he has to race Amateurs at the "Amateur" national. Hes not the only one

He's retired. Where do you want him to race?

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I am blaming both of them, hes just chasing trophies to make himself feel better because he can't win in the big league so he has...

I am blaming both of them, hes just chasing trophies to make himself feel better because he can't win in the big league so he has to race Amateurs at the "Amateur" national. Hes not the only one

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He's racing because he enjoys it and actually racing the proper classes.

Meister wrote:
Dont forget money. Likely the main driving force. My wife watched the Phil n zach show and told me it sounded like they were complaining.Simple solution...

Dont forget money. Likely the main driving force. My wife watched the Phil n zach show and told me it sounded like they were complaining.

Simple solution, as ill always share...

Replace +25 with Vet Pro. If youve ever made fast 40, thats your class. Leave pro sport for the kids too. Every other vet class should be if you've never made the fast 40. No A class crap, no pro license determination. Simply fast 40 rule. If youve made the mains, you possess a skill that only a professional has developed. These classes would explode with revenue too because i hear so many dudes say they arent wasting money "racing" these guys. Itd pull tons of new hopefuls to qualifiers and the ranch. Alot of dudes thatd still whoop on me, so im not suggesting this to "get a trophy".. i got my trophy, its in the form of a week long vacation with my family at the ranch. 

The guys in question this year prove my point. Once you possess the skill, it doesn't go away. They were paid A LOT of money to develop those skills. Some fitness goes away, but the skill doesnt. How many years did Lusk not even ride? 

But "where do they race" is brought up alot. Red bud vet fest, glen Helen vet nationals, echeconnees vet masters.. or tRaIn HaRdEr and race some nationals if its for "fun". Phil is getting paid to do what he's doing, Zach is too, i bet Andrews getting something too. Brownie was making big bucks as a factory trainer still on the grind. I respect all of these guys, but its some serious sillyness in the rules that allow them to do it, so I dont blame them. If i could make money cherry picking races, i probably would too if within the rules. I still maintain that ill paint a house faster than every one of them because thats been my profession and you could say im a factory level painter lol.. Andrew lapped me in the first sand section and I cannot phathom being able to go through there as fast as he did. Its a skillset. Itll never go away. 

I think its cool to watch the retired guys go against the up and comers. I would bet the kids enjoy riding alongside their heros as well. Anyone with half a brain can look at the field and see who the fast up and comers are apart from the returning ex pros.

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For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on...

For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on a quad 😂.

shortty761 wrote:
He’s always been a rider i love to watch and i think many others agree.His style is very unique to him, and it’s cool to see...

He’s always been a rider i love to watch and i think many others agree.


His style is very unique to him, and it’s cool to see someone ride different than everyone else and see it work for him.


I disagree that it looks goofy, dude looks badass and hauls ass!

Ya I feel the same with everything you just said except for the goofy part. Just thought we could all agree that sitting with your hips...

Ya I feel the same with everything you just said except for the goofy part. Just thought we could all agree that sitting with your hips that far behind your head and shoulders is most certainly not a regular stance while cornering with a leg out… but this place has become Reddit for moto.

Him and Mike Alessi are two of the fastest I can think of from recent generations that always cornered that way and made it work with the big dawgs. Guess it just really stood out to me this week after 5-6 years of watching everyone try to ride like Jett & Chase. 😎✌️

Villopoto 

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Money wrote:

So when he beats Benny n Oldenburg do they still have rides for next year?

TeamGreen wrote:

He beats Benny?

Hmmmm…are you a betting man?

Signed,

A friend of Zach’s 🤣

I don't think he'll beat Tomac let alone Benny...

Phrases you never thought you'd say.

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Money wrote:

So when he beats Benny n Oldenburg do they still have rides for next year?

DonJulio wrote:

They shouldn’t, for a factory team their results are garbage 

10-10 on B2B weekends is now considered garbage?  You must be fun at parties bro.  Geezus.  There is a line of moto dudes from Washougal to Southwick that would give their left nut to go 10-10 on back to back weekends.

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For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on...

For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on a quad 😂.

DonJulio wrote:

I have always thought he was boring to watch. (I’m a fan though)

lumpy790 wrote:

You weren't in Vegas were you? 🤣

Probably not he was still drinking Capri Suns....

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I could see Zach being more of a "JMart at 2026 Pala"  then "JMart at 2026 Millville" in his first race back at Unadilla.

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For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on...

For having been a top-pro man does Zacho have some goofy ass style. Sits at the back of the seat in every turn like he’s on a quad 😂.

shortty761 wrote:
He’s always been a rider i love to watch and i think many others agree.His style is very unique to him, and it’s cool to see...

He’s always been a rider i love to watch and i think many others agree.


His style is very unique to him, and it’s cool to see someone ride different than everyone else and see it work for him.


I disagree that it looks goofy, dude looks badass and hauls ass!

Zach Osborne and style have never met.

I rest my case...

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Money wrote:

So when he beats Benny n Oldenburg do they still have rides for next year?

DonJulio wrote:

They shouldn’t, for a factory team their results are garbage 

10-10 on B2B weekends is now considered garbage?  You must be fun at parties bro.  Geezus.  There is a line of moto dudes from Washougal to...

10-10 on B2B weekends is now considered garbage?  You must be fun at parties bro.  Geezus.  There is a line of moto dudes from Washougal to Southwick that would give their left nut to go 10-10 on back to back weekends.

You think a factory team is content going 10-10 at best?

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shortty761 wrote:
He’s always been a rider i love to watch and i think many others agree.His style is very unique to him, and it’s cool to see...

He’s always been a rider i love to watch and i think many others agree.


His style is very unique to him, and it’s cool to see someone ride different than everyone else and see it work for him.


I disagree that it looks goofy, dude looks badass and hauls ass!

Zach Osborne and style have never met.

I rest my case...

I rest my case...

Yea let’s put yellow goggles on our red white and blue kit

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Money wrote:

So when he beats Benny n Oldenburg do they still have rides for next year?

TeamGreen wrote:

He beats Benny?

Hmmmm…are you a betting man?

Signed,

A friend of Zach’s 🤣

Timo wrote:

I don't think he'll beat Tomac let alone Benny...

Phrases you never thought you'd say.

I could see it happening at dilla. Tomac stinks there. He’s ok at budds and Ironman is a good track for him. 

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Money wrote:

So when he beats Benny n Oldenburg do they still have rides for next year?

TeamGreen wrote:

He beats Benny?

Hmmmm…are you a betting man?

Signed,

A friend of Zach’s 🤣

Timo wrote:

I don't think he'll beat Tomac let alone Benny...

Phrases you never thought you'd say.

Here's what I know...

ZachO is the healthiest he's been in quite a while. 

ZachO is ULTRA-COMPETITIVE..but, in a very stoked and fun way...he loves a good battle and he'll give ya a friendly ration of shit if he thinks you're not riding as hard as he knows you can. Been there, done that...he won't allow his friends to settle for jus' doing mediocre laps. And...as I said...he does it in a very fun way...even gets up on you and revs the living piss out his bike while laughing at ya...getting you to go! If he "knows you"? He run up on you a bit and make you fight for your line...again...he makes it fun. Sooooo...jus'...fun.

ZachO is loving his new gig. Getting to represent a company that loves the sport and promote their products is perfect for him. 

ZachO is fully capable of weighing "Risk v Reward" in a very wise fashion. He's very capable of a top 10 and on the right day and with the bike eventually dialed for goin' at it at The Nationals after a race or 2? Well, I won't be surprised if we're hearing his name on the TV. And, yes, I;m thinking he can get up there and run with Benny.

But, Benny is doin; the "Full Time" racer thing. I really don't see him doing anything other than trying to get to that next tier as a racer; and, that throws a lot of the "Risk v. Reward" stuff out the door. Benny will go for it while ZachO, probably, will wisely set a limit on "risk". 

Now, if someone pisses Zach off...? This all goes out the door! 🤣

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Who is Bloss losing too right now that you think he should be beating?   I mean he beat Tomac. 

Bottom line there are more than 10 factory riders on the gate.  Somebody has to get 10th.   They’re not handing out 3 3rd place trophies last time I checked.  

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DonJulio wrote:

You think a factory team is content going 10-10 at best?

Beta isn't a "factory" team by any stretch of the imagination.

AEO or Tedder are more "factory" than Beta is.

Believe me, they are completely stoked with back to back top 10s!

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