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TalinH112
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8/5/2026 5:13am
TalinH112 wrote:

Is it me or does this thing look really short? 

Bearuno wrote:
Not reallyI can see in one picture - RH rear from above -that the axle block looks to have at least 30/ 35 /mm of unused...

Not really

I can see in one picture - RH rear from above -that the axle block looks to have at least 30/ 35 /mm of unused 'slot', and the rear tyre is quite close to the shock guard, but even then the bike doesn't look short.

 The pic with the Asian bloke in the Red T shirt is a bit 'fishbowl -ish ' though. Perhaps that's what you're jugging it by?

It does have low cradle, far lower than a CR, but that appears to be due to the ES. She'd be a real 'belly scraper' in my terrain.

 Forks are sitting low in a few pics - about the sag you'd want When You Were On It, not unladen. 

Meh, it's a ' show and tell bike ' - could be quite different if it is actually ever sold. 

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I was going off this picture in particular, but I believe it is the low hanging engine that was making me believe it was short. 

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Gravel
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8/5/2026 5:52am

Gas tank looks really small, and 500s are thirsty. Forks look saggy. But there’s a market for big bores so maybe it’s worth looking closer? 
 

8/5/2026 10:29am
Gravel wrote:

Gas tank looks really small, and 500s are thirsty. Forks look saggy. But there’s a market for big bores so maybe it’s worth looking closer? 
 

What size tank do you think is on the bike? Looks 2.0 gallons or so to me, though hard to really tell for sure.

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8/5/2026 10:55am Edited Date/Time 8/5/2026 12:31pm

So, not legal in the 500 class then. 

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Gravel
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8/5/2026 11:21am

What size tank do you think is on the bike? Looks 2.0 gallons or so to me, though hard to really tell for sure.

It’s hard to tell, but it’s very narrow between the knees, I’m guessing 1.8-2.0 gallons? That’s 30-35 miles on the KX500s I used to ride.

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8/5/2026 11:47am

What size tank do you think is on the bike? Looks 2.0 gallons or so to me, though hard to really tell for sure.

Gravel wrote:

It’s hard to tell, but it’s very narrow between the knees, I’m guessing 1.8-2.0 gallons? That’s 30-35 miles on the KX500s I used to ride.

My old 84 had a 2.5 gallon or so tank, and it wouldn't do a 50 mile cross country. 

8/5/2026 1:02pm

What size tank do you think is on the bike? Looks 2.0 gallons or so to me, though hard to really tell for sure.

Gravel wrote:

It’s hard to tell, but it’s very narrow between the knees, I’m guessing 1.8-2.0 gallons? That’s 30-35 miles on the KX500s I used to ride.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

My old 84 had a 2.5 gallon or so tank, and it wouldn't do a 50 mile cross country. 

But that bike is in MX trim correct? So 2.0 would be fine.

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8/5/2026 1:07pm

When I decide to dip my toe in the chinese motorcycle waters it will definitely be a 500cc two-stroke motocrosser

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Timo
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8/5/2026 1:38pm

Needs a power valve, six speed, and fuel/oil injection.

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vet323
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8/5/2026 2:19pm
Robgvx wrote:
So, not legal in the 500 class then. 

So, not legal in the 500 class then. 

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What 500 class?

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8/5/2026 3:07pm
Robgvx wrote:
So, not legal in the 500 class then. 

So, not legal in the 500 class then. 

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vet323 wrote:

What 500 class?

I think in today's market, most of the buyers are 30+, so it is an open class, maybe they are looking at those gents.

 

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8/6/2026 12:38am
Robgvx wrote:
So, not legal in the 500 class then. 

So, not legal in the 500 class then. 

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Yup, they added 1mm to the bore, to produce a 90mm x 79mm Monster!!!!!!

What About The Children ?- We'll All Be Killed!

They've picked an Engine that I fondly refer to as being barely above BSA Bantam Technology ( that offends many, But I own and  ride a bloody CRE500) and done ' just a a bit ' to it. 

It's an interesting thing, as I've written a few times.

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soggy
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8/6/2026 10:19am

There’s some decent stuff coming out of china. A non power valve or counterbalanced 500 two stroke isn’t it. 

TeamGreen
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Robgvx wrote:
So, not legal in the 500 class then. 

So, not legal in the 500 class then. 

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vet323 wrote:

What 500 class?

Uh…”Open”? 😎

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soggy wrote:

There’s some decent stuff coming out of china. A non power valve or counterbalanced 500 two stroke isn’t it. 

Yeah, this is a toy at best, certainly not something for anyone who intends to use it competitively. Could be an arm-stretching, laugh-a-minute toy… and it might just vibrate itself to pieces. Still a potential hoot. $3500 would make me look 2-3 times…

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What if it dont suck?

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JMX82 wrote:
There has been a lot of new dirt bike brands coming out from China lately. This is one the most interesting ones. CR500 clone engine fitted...

There has been a lot of new dirt bike brands coming out from China lately. This is one the most interesting ones. CR500 clone engine fitted to a frame which resembles a last generation RM250. The bike is called "Rocs 500"

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I attended the MXGP of Shanghai last year. Saw and heard this bike in person. Met the guys behind it. I can't speak to the quality or ride but the bike looks very well engineered. They are all passionate MX and enduro riders that are simply trying to grow the Chinese off-road market in the right direction. 

One of the guys behind ROCS is a multi-time Chinese national MX champ, is an engineer and also did Dakar a few years ago. He also lurks... right here often 👀

I didn't really know what to expect at the MXGP but was pleasantly surprised by the attendance (there were ads all over Shanghai for the race... airports, highway, bus stops, etc.). A good portion of the crowd seemed pretty new to moto, but there was definitely an informed audience too.

Moto is growing pretty rapidly in China, no doubt about it. Might be more of the electric/Sur Ron variety at the moment, but off-road in general is on the rise.

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bayodome : " Moto is growing pretty rapidly in China, no doubt about it. Might be more of the electric/Sur Ron variety at the moment, but off-road in general is on the rise." 

I've always said, that if Moto / Offroad caught on in China, and / or India , it would make the 1970s Dirt  Bike boom in the USA and elsewhere, look miniscule. 

I wonder what sort of gearbox ratios it may have? 

I've wanted, as a final modification for my CRE500, a HRC wide ratio gearbox, but, what I can find, is either wildly expensive, or, in the case of Panthera offering a replica set, I'd not trust them to make anything remotely well / trustworthy, after their POS Electric Start. 

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RACING
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What a stupid, useless bike. I love it!!!

😄

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zippytech
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I just hope the Chinese send over some 10,000.00 trucks.

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PRM31
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WTF. Can China actually come up with their own ideas instead of copying elements from every real manufacturer? 

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PRM31 wrote:

WTF. Can China actually come up with their own ideas instead of copying elements from every real manufacturer? 

You’re not seriously expecting them to reinvent the dirt bike right? Single cylinder, liquid cooled, disk braked, single shocked bikes are the standard. You certainly aren’t expecting them to try to break into this traditionally conservative market by doing a Cannondale right?

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RACING
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Oooooooh, a chinese Cannondale knock-off... That would sell, for sure.

😂

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TalinH112
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RACING wrote:

Oooooooh, a chinese Cannondale knock-off... That would sell, for sure.

😂

A Channdondale if you would. 😂

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