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How long have you been here? Every gottdamm one of us on here is an anonymous internet lawyer.
/s/ El Capitan, Esq.
his dad tests dirt bikes as an independent contractor you say? as a career? and writes about it? with words? on paper?
Stuff we know for sure:
None of the moto journalists who might be following this thread have weighed in with any evidence to set the record straight.
That’s about it.
I feel your pain. Just set some hard boundaries (and defend them).
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Maybe they don’t feel the need to pay them since it’s such little pay.
Damn shame it’s 2026 and there’s still no collective bargaining in moto to help the racers that aren’t from generational wealth. It’s never going to happen though. It’s the retard rednecks vs the little men that never got laid till they married their bitch wife. 😂
Dudes like Keefer can’t even stand up for his kid getting jipped. Shits pathetic. Fuck racer x, no one reads that shit anyways now a days
Cool story bro.
What's your point in relation to this topic?
That's a characteristic of that 17-22 age range, everyone expects you to know what you're doing but you don't.
Pretty damning itself.
LOL there were some posts edited after someone got accused of being a lawyer, hit a little too close to home.
And that means he understands how contract pay works? Sure thing.
This thread would be better with more (early) Metallica
That age that fight wars for us.
Will the 5 man team of posters known as "Uptite" please give us some insider knowledge please.
This should clear it up for the pitchfork crowd......
How the Riders Get Paid (DC)
On Sunday afternoon, Kris Keefer, a longtime colleague and contributor to this magazine and website, his wife Heather, and their son Aden, released a new episode of their PulpMX podcast, "Summer School." The entertaining podcast documents their family's journey through Aden's rookie summer in Pro Motocross, where he rides for the Phoenix Honda team. He has qualified for the 40-man 250 final six times so far but has yet to earn his first national point; he'll get there soon. Still, qualifying for those six races should have landed him some purse money, but as of their podcast recording on Sunday, Aden had yet to receive any purse money from MX Sports Pro Racing. Yes, it's MX Sports Pro Racing, not the AMA, that handles both entries and purse payouts in Pro Motocross, and that's where the confusion started for the Keefer family. They assumed that the AMA disburses the money, and repeated mentions were made of other riders in the paddock who they heard had not been paid either.
As soon as the podcast went live, people started posting online and on social media, questioning why no one had been paid for Pro Motocross all season long. Then the piling on started, especially in the darker corners of the internet and message forums. That's what happens when a podcast host says, "Dear AMA, when are these guys getting paid? Sincerely, the Keefers," and, "We're seven rounds in, people. Nobody has gotten paid!" And then again, "We gotta figure this out. But yeah: Dear AMA, please pay us. Sincerely, the riders."
Of course, my phone started ringing as people started asking how a series enjoying record turnouts could not even pay the riders.
Well, MX Sports Pro Racing is paying the riders, just like always. In fact, almost every rider has been paid like usual. Turns out a few riders—including Aden Keefer—have had issues submitting paperwork that would allow them to get paid. I looked into the Keefers' situation, and it turned out the family had not filled out the W-9 form for Aden that every rider getting paid must complete. MX Sports Pro Racing did not realize Aden had not been paid because the family thought they needed to talk to the AMA, not MX Sports Pro Racing. Needless to say, they now know, and Aden was paid for the six races he qualified for earlier this week.
There were a few other riders who we were told had somehow not been paid, so we called each one of them or their team managers. In the case of Bubba Pauli's ISRT Kawasaki team, Vince Friese had at first entered the wrong routing number, and Norway's Cornelius Tondel (now with Monster Energy Kawasaki) had not provided MX Sports Pro Racing with a U.S. bank for direct deposit. Both situations have now been rectified, according to Pauli himself.
Beta teammates Mitchell Oldenburg and Benny Bloss were also said to have not been paid, but when I spoke to Mitchell, he said it had been sorted a while back. When MX Sports Pro Racing's Kelly Kirby called Benny, he did not know what she was talking about.
Finally, Gavin Towers was mentioned in the podcast. Kelly told me that there was no sign of a problem, and he had not said or sent anything otherwise. I called him anyway and left a message but did not hear back yet.
MX Sports Pro Racing has been paying by direct deposit for more than a dozen years—80 riders per race, every two weeks during the season (though with Monster Energy Supercross now paying every week, that's something we will likely change next year). We've seen problems arise due to inaccurate routing numbers, foreign banks, lack of complete paperwork, etc. We always get to the bottom of any issue and get the riders/teams paid ASAP and will continue to do so moving forward. In the meantime, if any participant out there other than the ones listed here is having any sort of issue, please let Kelly know: Kelly@mxsports.com.
Queefer is an attention seeking drama queen.
So those rocket scientists The Queefers had problems filling in a form?
Who would have thought...
Glad it was cleared up in just 4 days. I will only say, without the pitchfork crowd, would it have been only 4 days? Glad all is well now.
So is Keefer the conspiracy theorist? Lol
Pit Row
Is DC calling Vital a darker corner of internet and message forums? 😂
I’m pretty sure he is, we live in a dark world here on vital 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, the AMA is not paying.
They are programmed to receive.
I agree, w/o the “pitchfork crowd” how long would this have gone on before MX Sports realized it. Sounds like they need to have some more checks and balances within their organization. Glad things got worked out for the riders.
Well now that Racerhead explained it all, and now that some rider that said he didn’t get paid has now been paid, I hope that someone apologized to someone…
To think that this whole thing was started by someone who didn’t complete their paperwork. Although the Oldenburg situation now seems mysterious… did that incident at the riders meeting never actually happen?
I’ll check out any time I like.
But you can never leave
3 man team, and we don’t post much anymore because it just turns into an argument now. But since YOU ask, I’ll tell you what we know.
We know you absolutely cannot compete without first giving them a W-9, a valid ID, and a voided check so they can set up electronic deposit.
So the narrativethat young Keefer doesn’t have the paperwork in is false.
There were more than a few riders that haven’t been paid that we know of, one is a factory rider, he doesn’t really care, he just thinks it’s a joke.
But to honest, this happens every year to some extent
Looking forward to hearing the Keefer apology in this week's podcast episode lol!
Wow! I hope they atleast throw me a payout too since they took my conspiracy theory and published it as fact! Nearly verbatim!
Wild times we're living in
Thanks for posting, but it won't clear it up. They will be jumping in still blaming DC and citing greed, monopoly etc etc with the actual facts making zero difference
How did your assumption work out? Turns out not only could he not complete the form, he couldn't even go to the right organization.
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