AMA Not Paying?

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I guess I should come on here to clear some things up to put out some of this this shitstorm a bit. First off, DC doesn’t...

I guess I should come on here to clear some things up to put out some of this this shitstorm a bit. First off, DC doesn’t EVER tell me not to speak my mind and I usually do (good or bad). If you have listened to our show, we speak honestly. I’m a face value type of guy and can only speak from what is going on with us. DC has never told me to shut my mouth. I work for Racer X yes, but DC allows me to be me. 

On the show Aden said “no one has gotten paid”. Meaning, “no one” over here (AKA us, Aden Keefer). Maybe that was misconstrued into NO ONE has in ALL riders. Maybe I need to pay more attention while recording but usually these shows are raw/unfiltered. Also, Aden does know a couple riders who haven’t got paid yet but this also could be a bank issue? At Southwick’s riders meeting Oldenburg asked when he was getting paid which spawned into Aden asking if he got paid yet. He didn’t.. I do know that the riders I have talked to today (more than a few) have been paid twice already (7 rounds in). So I think the conspiracy theorists need to chill back a bit on if MX Sports/AMA is doing this on purpose. They’re not. (You can say “oh Keefer is blowing MX Sports” or I’m drinking the cool-aid but I am not becoming rich working for Racer X to lie/hide anything). I work for at Racer X cause I love the brand and the people that I work with (including DC). 

From my experience (this is my opinion) there isn’t anything funny going on. Were we genuinely curious on how privateers could make it to the next round if they haven’t got paid? But on the show I made sure to specify “if this is true” I wonder how they can make it to each race. I DO NOT know everyone in the paddock so I can’t speak for everyone but from the people I speak to, riders usually get paid every 2-3 weeks depending on if there is an off weekend or not. I never came on the show and said MX Sports hasn’t paid a single rider. We and a couple others didn’t get paid. Everyone calm down. 😂

Hopefully this clears up any conspiracy theories and I am sure Aden will get paid, we were just genuinely curious on how it all works cause it was weird that he wasn’t paid yet. I appreciate everyone listening to the show and going on this journey with all of us. See at Washougal! 

Just like I said a bootlicker would come on here and say we’re all stupid. 

That is not the tone you had on your show, but I see you’ve been corrected, carry on. 

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Wow. Someone owes someone an apology. And someone owes someone (or multiple racers) some money. Or not? “I don’t know, man…”

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aaaaaannnnnnd, who does?

You must be an MX journalist. You know something but first have to tease.

El_Rayo wrote:

Mx Sports (Dave and Carrey Coombs) 


Are the promoters and who are responsible for paying l.

30minmotos wrote:
Combs are starting to remind me of the Batman quoteYou either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.Probably started out...

Combs are starting to remind me of the Batman quote


You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.


Probably started out making great changes and great for the sport. But now just absolutely locked into profits and stuck In a place between the massive mfg’s and tv networks.


 

Reminds one of the greed displayed by Mark Stallybrass and the CMRC. Canadian MX stuff. IYKYK.

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@Kris Keefer 


DC = Damage Control. 

if some have been paid and others have not that's a genuine WTF. No need to accuse people of being conspiracy theorists, or maybe we just have unrealistic expectations for the sophistication level of Cotter & Co. Operations?

also, why did you say "AMA" and not MXSports? 

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Guess we’ll just have to wait until Friday’s Racerhead…

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I'm not nor ever have been a pro racer and I'll state that i have met DC a few times and believe him to be a stand up guy.

Having said that I'll say that every rider that earns a paycheck on Saturday should leave the track with money in his hand.  There is no excuse...end of discussion...period.

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Someone musta got a phone call today and told to fix what u said 

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I guess I should come on here to clear some things up to put out some of this this shitstorm a bit. First off, DC doesn’t...

I guess I should come on here to clear some things up to put out some of this this shitstorm a bit. First off, DC doesn’t EVER tell me not to speak my mind and I usually do (good or bad). If you have listened to our show, we speak honestly. I’m a face value type of guy and can only speak from what is going on with us. DC has never told me to shut my mouth. I work for Racer X yes, but DC allows me to be me. 

On the show Aden said “no one has gotten paid”. Meaning, “no one” over here (AKA us, Aden Keefer). Maybe that was misconstrued into NO ONE has in ALL riders. Maybe I need to pay more attention while recording but usually these shows are raw/unfiltered. Also, Aden does know a couple riders who haven’t got paid yet but this also could be a bank issue? At Southwick’s riders meeting Oldenburg asked when he was getting paid which spawned into Aden asking if he got paid yet. He didn’t.. I do know that the riders I have talked to today (more than a few) have been paid twice already (7 rounds in). So I think the conspiracy theorists need to chill back a bit on if MX Sports/AMA is doing this on purpose. They’re not. (You can say “oh Keefer is blowing MX Sports” or I’m drinking the cool-aid but I am not becoming rich working for Racer X to lie/hide anything). I work for at Racer X cause I love the brand and the people that I work with (including DC). 

From my experience (this is my opinion) there isn’t anything funny going on. Were we genuinely curious on how privateers could make it to the next round if they haven’t got paid? But on the show I made sure to specify “if this is true” I wonder how they can make it to each race. I DO NOT know everyone in the paddock so I can’t speak for everyone but from the people I speak to, riders usually get paid every 2-3 weeks depending on if there is an off weekend or not. I never came on the show and said MX Sports hasn’t paid a single rider. We and a couple others didn’t get paid. Everyone calm down. 😂

Hopefully this clears up any conspiracy theories and I am sure Aden will get paid, we were just genuinely curious on how it all works cause it was weird that he wasn’t paid yet. I appreciate everyone listening to the show and going on this journey with all of us. See at Washougal! 

The only reason Aden didn’t get paid, and any other riders is because they didn’t send it. It’s not that difficult to send an ACH payment. All you need is the Bank routing number, account number and recipient’s name and you click send. They didn’t send it. 

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If you get 5th in the LCQ race you didn't make the final 40 in the moto there is no payout. I noticed at one that He didn't make one of them so there is that.

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22 hours ago Edited Date/Time 22 hours ago

Here, I'll help ya out and I wont be a condescending prick about it,

time stamp a little before the 1 hour 22 minute mark. https://pulpmx.com/podcast/show-492-summer-school-millville-re-cap/

Alright, it’s not just me that finds Ol’ Lumpy to be a condescending ass. 

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plowboy wrote:
I'm not nor ever have been a pro racer and I'll state that i have met DC a few times and believe him to be a...

I'm not nor ever have been a pro racer and I'll state that i have met DC a few times and believe him to be a stand up guy.

Having said that I'll say that every rider that earns a paycheck on Saturday should leave the track with money in his hand.  There is no excuse...end of discussion...period.

We had a pay window where things were settled right then and there.

I get that these are new times, and cash and checks are passe, but there's no excuse for these guys to no get paid immediately. 

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joshd wrote:

MX sports bootlicker will be along shortly to explain it away or tell us we’re all stupid. 

Can’t believe DonM hasn’t been here yet!

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motoxxx599 wrote:
I was listening to the Keefer "Summer School" Millville recap and they were saying the AMA has not paid out any purse money yet through 7...

I was listening to the Keefer "Summer School" Millville recap and they were saying the AMA has not paid out any purse money yet through 7 rounds of the Outdoor series to any of the riders. It usually deposited weekly and Im sure there are some guys who could use that money to get to the races. 

lumpy790 wrote:

The AMA is not the ones that own the rights and handle the payouts.

aaaaaannnnnnd, who does?

You must be an MX journalist. You know something but first have to tease.

He has to make sure it’s okay to be honest first 

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I’ve been payed every round. 

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FMSCT, the Thailand federation that puts on the Thai championship, started a new season and their previous year champion hadn’t been paid yet. 

It is ran by a dynasty family and they get Thai government money. 

The Indian Supercross Racing League have already been announcing rider registrations for this coming season and at least one team hasn’t paid their riders, including a champion. Some have been paid. 

This one is more surprising/disappointing as the ISRL appeared to be the most athlete first promotion out there.

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I guess I should come on here to clear some things up to put out some of this this shitstorm a bit. First off, DC doesn’t...

I guess I should come on here to clear some things up to put out some of this this shitstorm a bit. First off, DC doesn’t EVER tell me not to speak my mind and I usually do (good or bad). If you have listened to our show, we speak honestly. I’m a face value type of guy and can only speak from what is going on with us. DC has never told me to shut my mouth. I work for Racer X yes, but DC allows me to be me. 

On the show Aden said “no one has gotten paid”. Meaning, “no one” over here (AKA us, Aden Keefer). Maybe that was misconstrued into NO ONE has in ALL riders. Maybe I need to pay more attention while recording but usually these shows are raw/unfiltered. Also, Aden does know a couple riders who haven’t got paid yet but this also could be a bank issue? At Southwick’s riders meeting Oldenburg asked when he was getting paid which spawned into Aden asking if he got paid yet. He didn’t.. I do know that the riders I have talked to today (more than a few) have been paid twice already (7 rounds in). So I think the conspiracy theorists need to chill back a bit on if MX Sports/AMA is doing this on purpose. They’re not. (You can say “oh Keefer is blowing MX Sports” or I’m drinking the cool-aid but I am not becoming rich working for Racer X to lie/hide anything). I work for at Racer X cause I love the brand and the people that I work with (including DC). 

From my experience (this is my opinion) there isn’t anything funny going on. Were we genuinely curious on how privateers could make it to the next round if they haven’t got paid? But on the show I made sure to specify “if this is true” I wonder how they can make it to each race. I DO NOT know everyone in the paddock so I can’t speak for everyone but from the people I speak to, riders usually get paid every 2-3 weeks depending on if there is an off weekend or not. I never came on the show and said MX Sports hasn’t paid a single rider. We and a couple others didn’t get paid. Everyone calm down. 😂

Hopefully this clears up any conspiracy theories and I am sure Aden will get paid, we were just genuinely curious on how it all works cause it was weird that he wasn’t paid yet. I appreciate everyone listening to the show and going on this journey with all of us. See at Washougal! 

j368 wrote:
The only reason Aden didn’t get paid, and any other riders is because they didn’t send it. It’s not that difficult to send an ACH payment...

The only reason Aden didn’t get paid, and any other riders is because they didn’t send it. It’s not that difficult to send an ACH payment. All you need is the Bank routing number, account number and recipient’s name and you click send. They didn’t send it. 

Who knows it sounds like things changed the last few yrs.  Being that the rider is an independent contractor, maybe the rider has to create a buisness name also  . Then you start a Chase buisness account.  Send the ama all that info & your ein / tax id #.  My 1st Chicago ic 1099 no one told me about all that.  I get my check book out from my credit union . And the stylish , beautiful Lithuanian super peppy faster talking than a New Yorker. Says illegal x4 times  & says we pay your buisness, what is your buisness name . Then r you ok  r you alright. I must hv been pale looking or something.  A huge young Russian guy didn’t know English & was speaking Russian real loud & being aggressive. She instantly slammed her fist on her desk & said . Do not speak Russian to me , get out of my space Real loud.  I negotiated with the owner about start money & a sign on bonus.  It’s different for a ic , you can fight more for pay. Trk has a 13 sp & he couldn’t find a driver that could drive it.  So I thought I had him & tried for .20 cpm more than his drivers.  I got .10 more so not bad. 

 

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THERE’S A DRUG RING INSIDE OF MX SPORTS!

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THERE’S A DRUG RING INSIDE OF MX SPORTS!

Leave Aldon Baker out of this………

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I guess I should come on here to clear some things up to put out some of this this shitstorm a bit. First off, DC doesn’t...

I guess I should come on here to clear some things up to put out some of this this shitstorm a bit. First off, DC doesn’t EVER tell me not to speak my mind and I usually do (good or bad). If you have listened to our show, we speak honestly. I’m a face value type of guy and can only speak from what is going on with us. DC has never told me to shut my mouth. I work for Racer X yes, but DC allows me to be me. 

On the show Aden said “no one has gotten paid”. Meaning, “no one” over here (AKA us, Aden Keefer). Maybe that was misconstrued into NO ONE has in ALL riders. Maybe I need to pay more attention while recording but usually these shows are raw/unfiltered. Also, Aden does know a couple riders who haven’t got paid yet but this also could be a bank issue? At Southwick’s riders meeting Oldenburg asked when he was getting paid which spawned into Aden asking if he got paid yet. He didn’t.. I do know that the riders I have talked to today (more than a few) have been paid twice already (7 rounds in). So I think the conspiracy theorists need to chill back a bit on if MX Sports/AMA is doing this on purpose. They’re not. (You can say “oh Keefer is blowing MX Sports” or I’m drinking the cool-aid but I am not becoming rich working for Racer X to lie/hide anything). I work for at Racer X cause I love the brand and the people that I work with (including DC). 

From my experience (this is my opinion) there isn’t anything funny going on. Were we genuinely curious on how privateers could make it to the next round if they haven’t got paid? But on the show I made sure to specify “if this is true” I wonder how they can make it to each race. I DO NOT know everyone in the paddock so I can’t speak for everyone but from the people I speak to, riders usually get paid every 2-3 weeks depending on if there is an off weekend or not. I never came on the show and said MX Sports hasn’t paid a single rider. We and a couple others didn’t get paid. Everyone calm down. 😂

Hopefully this clears up any conspiracy theories and I am sure Aden will get paid, we were just genuinely curious on how it all works cause it was weird that he wasn’t paid yet. I appreciate everyone listening to the show and going on this journey with all of us. See at Washougal! 

j368 wrote:
The only reason Aden didn’t get paid, and any other riders is because they didn’t send it. It’s not that difficult to send an ACH payment...

The only reason Aden didn’t get paid, and any other riders is because they didn’t send it. It’s not that difficult to send an ACH payment. All you need is the Bank routing number, account number and recipient’s name and you click send. They didn’t send it. 

id give oldenburg the benefit of the doubt on that one. 

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THERE’S A DRUG RING INSIDE OF MX SPORTS!

MoogenKen wrote:

Leave Aldon Baker out of this………

Deegan enters the chat….


….for attention.


And to say…

…Leave Deegan out of this…

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THERE’S A DRUG RING INSIDE OF MX SPORTS!

MoogenKen wrote:

Leave Aldon Baker out of this………

AP and RC on the ozempic program? 

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Deegan enters the chat….


….for attention.


And to say…

…Leave Deegan out of this…

Johnny O’ is the Lawrence’s connect! 

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Tyler D wrote:
@Kris Keefer DC = Damage Control. if some have been paid and others have not that's a genuine WTF. No need to accuse people of being conspiracy...

@Kris Keefer 


DC = Damage Control. 

if some have been paid and others have not that's a genuine WTF. No need to accuse people of being conspiracy theorists, or maybe we just have unrealistic expectations for the sophistication level of Cotter & Co. Operations?

also, why did you say "AMA" and not MXSports? 

How do the Keefers not know who is responsible for paying? 

How can they talk to 12 people and not get an answer or put in touch with the person who can get them one?

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Deegan enters the chat….


….for attention.


And to say…

…Leave Deegan out of this…

MoogenKen wrote:

Johnny O’ is the Lawrence’s connect! 

Drug costs are going up. Time for shorter motos.

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Tyler D wrote:
@Kris Keefer DC = Damage Control. if some have been paid and others have not that's a genuine WTF. No need to accuse people of being conspiracy...

@Kris Keefer 


DC = Damage Control. 

if some have been paid and others have not that's a genuine WTF. No need to accuse people of being conspiracy theorists, or maybe we just have unrealistic expectations for the sophistication level of Cotter & Co. Operations?

also, why did you say "AMA" and not MXSports? 

How do the Keefers not know who is responsible for paying? How can they talk to 12 people and not get an answer or put in touch...

How do the Keefers not know who is responsible for paying? 

How can they talk to 12 people and not get an answer or put in touch with the person who can get them one?

Funny huh. Then he comes on here and calls us conspiracy theorists for repeating what he said! 

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Commies! DEI hires to forfeit stolen winnings to fund bail for your local hood rat wheelie boyzzzzz -I see my stolen bike but who's paying for the bail??? 

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I thought the payouts were super low for outdoors?  I'd rather get a big chunk after a month or two than peanuts every week. Just think you're saving up 

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Tyler D wrote:
@Kris Keefer DC = Damage Control. if some have been paid and others have not that's a genuine WTF. No need to accuse people of being conspiracy...

@Kris Keefer 


DC = Damage Control. 

if some have been paid and others have not that's a genuine WTF. No need to accuse people of being conspiracy theorists, or maybe we just have unrealistic expectations for the sophistication level of Cotter & Co. Operations?

also, why did you say "AMA" and not MXSports? 

How do the Keefers not know who is responsible for paying? How can they talk to 12 people and not get an answer or put in touch...

How do the Keefers not know who is responsible for paying? 

How can they talk to 12 people and not get an answer or put in touch with the person who can get them one?

joshd wrote:

Funny huh. Then he comes on here and calls us conspiracy theorists for repeating what he said! 

Funny how that term is what led DC to blocking me. 

Conspiracy theorist is a label used to dismiss or discredit by grouping everything under one umbrella. A lazy defense. 

At this point, a majority of the main “theories” are verifiably true so we can simply call them conspiracies now. 

Hilarious that Keefer is calling us theorists for using his own statements lol

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Funny how that term is what led DC to blocking me. Conspiracy theorist is a label used to dismiss or discredit by grouping everything under one umbrella...

Funny how that term is what led DC to blocking me. 

Conspiracy theorist is a label used to dismiss or discredit by grouping everything under one umbrella. A lazy defense. 

At this point, a majority of the main “theories” are verifiably true so we can simply call them conspiracies now. 

Hilarious that Keefer is calling us theorists for using his own statements lol

Conspiracy theorists = 47

Them = 0

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