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There hasn't been a war in Iran since the Iran-Iraq war ended in 1988, the median age in Iran is 35 years old, most Iranians have lived in domestic "peace" their entire lives.
You can argue that their government is bad because it's illiberal totalitarian, that argument is weak if you also argue anyone who doesn't vote Republican is a traitor to the USA and you think liberalism is bad.
To those on that side whom you say "go jihad" we are the infidels and jihadists. We have been fucking around in the M.E. for over 50 years, both overtly and covertly, no wonder they hate us.
The bottom line is that Trump is not going to allow Iran to have nuclear weapons, period.
They also want Iran to stop funding terrorism, but nuclear weapons are the line in the sand.
The war can end with either the current leadership of Iran agreeing to that along with unhindered inspections, or by regime change.
At this point, I'm expecting regime change.
From what I can see, the people of Iran want a new government.
It seems very difficult to accomplish.
I think you are missing a comma and 3 zeroes.
Also, the actual source of the 'reconstruction' money wasn't solidly identified. The wording basically said 'the plan will be made later'.
"The United States, with regional partners, would develop a plan of at least $300 billion for Iran's reconstruction and economic development, with the financing mechanism to be negotiated later."
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That’s good, have to see what new deal entails.
Agree with most of that but I disagree that majority of Iranians want freedom. This is their best opportunity in 40 years to do so.
"The Iranian regime has one goal: maintain the existence of the regime."
Should read: The Iranian regime has one goal: EXPAND the existence of the regime.
Fixed it for ya, you're welcome
TM
You know, there are professional football teams that lose for decades, bring in a new head coach and start winning. The fact that we did something and it turned out bad, does not mean doing something is wrong, it could just be what we did was wrong.
TM
America is not Jihadest. But I do agree that we should have never been over there in the ME in the first place. I believe now ,even if we completely withdrew and stop meddling in their affairs, they wouldn’t stop trying to kill us.
I’d venture to say the regime is currently in survival mode.
In the grand scheme of things, thousands of years, I'd say their long term goal is to expand till they dominate.
TM
They could if not for all the other sects vying for the same piece of real estate. Iran is massive and prone to intra-border insurgencies. And the regime is constantly fighting internal battles as well. Sure, Islam would love to take over, but in the meantime, they’re more concerned about not waking up dead (shout out to Dave M).
The government doesn’t give a fuck about us. Enjoy the goyslop. That’s all you’re gonna get out of this deal.
Just read that their internal polling was leaked and 80+% of their public want drastic change. Maybe, just maybe this is their opportunity to change their government themselves.
TM
Iran, or the USA? C’mon! You teed it up. I had to take a swing at it!
Have a great weekend, TM. Don’t forget to record Spa!
I always try to keep a foot on the ground and when I see posts like this, it reminds me of how the right felt ignored when the left was in charge, and I'm talking about way before the liberal tears revenge tour started in 2016. You're absolutely not wrong that we're being fucked, but we're being fucked by a right cock and right folks like that right cock, exactly the same as how left folks love getting fucked by that left cock. The key is for people to use these moments to see the parallels and reflect on their own philosophical inconsistency which is really just a form of dishonesty. It's a big mountain to climb, but swapping today's disingenuous weaponization of every issue for just a splash of honesty, would go a really long way.
The same can be said about Israel.
That reminds me, did we get Greenland yet??
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You’re correct. If any of this shit was happening under Biden or Obama there would be several here losing their minds. Same with the expansion of the hyper scale data centers. I don’t like left, right, or any cock for that matter.
Wouldn't expect any less needling from a brother. 😁
TM
So basically they have the same aspirations as our country does?
Baby steps. I know you're used to a fast paced Trump whirlwind, but patience good sir.
TM
And I want my fucking Cuban cigars. What's the holdup?
I’m lucky and feel fortunate to be an American Citizen.💯
Always so much bothsidesism on this issue and it drives me slightly crazy. The stated goals of Islamic regimes are not shared by Israel or any other developed nation. People just refuse to take them at their word when they talk about conquering the world and killing their enemies as official state policy/religious doctrine. Nobody else is doing that no matter what selectively edited quote you can find from some guy somewhere in government.
Do you have a link with Iran stating they want to conquer the world?
You can choose to take it literally and pretend to not understand the point if you'd like to, I'm not going to go looking for links to convince you to do otherwise.
Is that really how you see America? 😆 Here’s one for ya….
You’re a smart guy. If you’re feeling froggy go read about the Greater Israel concept.
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